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Hyde is spot on

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by pumpdogs, Dec 28, 2017.

  1. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Nope, I'm saying the grass always appears greener on the other side. Pitt, Green Bay and a few other teams have been dominant for the past 30+ years while everyone else has an occasional SB win here or there. For example, the Eagles comment someone else made- Philly's been to the Super Bowl twice in franchise history and never won. He's not going to be any happier as an Eagles fan.

    Even if they do go all the way this season....what happens in 5 years? Ten years? Then you'll say they suck because they didn't win the Super Bowl 9 out of 10 seasons. And that was my point- 31 of 32 teams lose every year guaranteed.

    In the history of the Miami Dolphins (52 years), they've had a total of 16 losing seasons...nine of them have been since Marino retired and four more were our first 4 seasons. This has been a very dominant team and I'm not sure what you guys are asking here- if the past decade has been too much to bear, then don't be Dolphin fans. It really is that simple.
     
  2. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    First of all I was talking about my son not me.And yes he would have been happier watching a team actually get to the playoffs virtually every year and now have a bright future compared to watching 2 blow out playoffs on his lifetime!He did not get to watch the glory years of the phins like you and me.
    So keep your preaching to yourself!
     
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  3. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Do not let.this guy trap you into saying.the wrong thing to.get banned!Unless.that's what you want.
    He is already accusing people of being somebody they are not because he is a writer or something.I didn't realize he was a moderator.
     
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  4. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    In 50 years you haven't learned that there are things you can control and things you can't? Adam Gase can't do anything to fix the past. All he can do is try to get better for the future. Saying "we've been losers for a long time and it's the current regime's fault" is totally insane.

    I was born in '83, so the Dolphins have basically been unsuccessful for my entire life. I can count the playoff wins I've seen on one hand and I've never even seen a Phins Super Bowl. Yet, I'm not sitting here pouting. I understand that you can't blame Gase for the failures of Parcells, Sparano, Cameron, Jimmy Johnson, Saban, and Philbin. Our history is meaningless. Future success is all that matters and after many failed coaches we certainly seem to be going in the right direction.

    Ripping off the band-aid hurts for a second, but then the pain goes away. Chopping off your arm isn't a way to make the pain fade any faster.
     
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  5. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    You also have to look at the big picture as in, the moves that didn't work were still good moves when they were made. This was the first offseason in years where the team recognized where they needed improvement the most. LB and OL were biggest problems and they made moves to address them. Some worked out better than others but at least it seems like they are aiming their shots now instead of just spray and pray.
     
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  6. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Some guys here just won't be happy until we find a HC and/or GM who can actually see into the future and who never makes mistakes...ever.
     
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  7. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I don't know why they haven't hired one yet. There are dozens of qualified candidates on this forum alone :001_rolleyes:
     
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  8. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Haha big ****ing deal!I ****ed up the eagles were in 5 nfc championships in this time and now have a true franchise qb.I was selfish making him a dolphins fan and now living here in the philly he is left from his.friends watching a good eagles team for most of his life and instead spent his Sundays watching 7-9 just about every year.It's my fault and that's why I'm pissed.If u don't understand this I don't know what to.tell u.
     
  9. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I really don't get this.

    No one is saying you shouldn't want the Dolphins to win or to be over the fact they haven't won in a long time.

    It's just you shouldn't want them to blow everything up just because we had a down year without our starting QB after a playoff year, all because you're having an impatient temper tantrum. It is stupid to want that actually.
     
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  10. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Listen, there’s a few of us here that remember the Dolphins of the 70’s. Many of you reference the Marino era as the glory days of Miami that you can recall but the 70’s is when Miami was the juggernaut of the NFL. Now, why do I point this out? What is the ONE element that makes a team Great? You all know me and know where I stand. It’s your head coach.

    Now everyone can argue who the greatest head coach in NFL history was. I’m admittedly partial and there will never be another Don Shula. He is and always will be the greatest ever. He built teams in an era when there was no free agency and he was a great teacher. He had a raging fire in his belly to win.

    Now I know it’s sacrilege to make the comparison but I submit to you Gase is Shula 2.0. Blaspheme you say. Well when Bob Griese went down, Shula had Earl Morrell. Gase didn’t have Morrell. To make an era period comparison, Gase had Billy Kilmer. A good veteran quarterback whose heyday has come and gone. That’s not his fault. Gase was doing some outside the box thinking to try and salvage the season. Unfortunately it didn’t pan out

    The Dolphins have work to do in the offseason with priority number one being the offensive line. While the line wasn’t THAT bad in pass protection it was horrible at run blocking. I’ve pointed out for YEARS now, when we run the ball 25 times or more we win, bottom line. Forget Tannehill, forget Landry, Stills and the rest of the receivers, we HAVE to be able to run the ball and run effectively.

    The Dolphins aren’t a BAD team but we do have a lot of work to still do and it’s unrealistic to think that in a head coach’s 2nd season with the loss of his starting quarterback that he’s going to be able to unscrew what’s been screwed up royally for the last 15 Years.

    I’m willing to wager just about anything Miami is going to rebound in such a manner next year that it’s going to make heads spin
     
  11. JIGGAJOE

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    I think the positives from this year definitely outweigh the negatives.

    1. X and tank really surprised me this year, and I think with Lippett coming back next year that unit should be a strength. Especially considering that Jones is a stud and McDonald will only get more comfortable with another off-season.

    2. Interior d-line should be fine for awhile. Suh, Godchaeux (probably misspelled), Williams, and Taylor is a pretty solid rotation. DE could be an issue with age, but Harris flashed and I imagine that will add in the draft.

    3. LB's are definitely the biggest weakness. I hope Kwon is a stud, that will help.

    4. Offense is what I expected. We didn't address the line... Again. I have always been a believer that you win in the trenches. Pouncey I think has to go, or take a pay cut. I've seen nursing homes with better hips. 2 of the first 3 picks should be o-line if we don't address in free agency (IMO). Obviously Tanne gets another year, but we do need some competition and a back up plan. As for Landry... I say let him walk, he has earned the contract and we don't have the money. Grant has shown some play making abilities and he could fit nicely in the slot, plus I think he is a better deep threat, oddly enough, on the outside. TE wish we kept Sims. RB Drake fits the system better than Ajayi, probably grab another option in the draft. Rd 4 through 6
     
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  12. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I want to say again, this site isn't for people to complain about the team just because they are upset. That is what yahoo comments and twitter are for.

    We're all fans and none of us are ecstatic the season went the way did. We all want Lombardi trophies. This site is discuss what is wrong or right and how to fix or make it better or guess what the team will do next, etc. No one gives 2 damns, 5 ****s or 17 ****s how unhappy you are with the team.
     
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  13. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Here are my positives take it or leave it.
    Drake,davis,,That's it on offence.Suh,Both rookie Dt,howard,Jones,tj,tankersley.
    Negatives entire ol except davis has potenial
    Parker is soft,No Te,Wake is old,Harris is unknown and branch is not.worth the money
    Kiko see branch,Timmons is gone,McMillan unknown.
    I forgot to mention landry will be gone!The best offensive player we have.
    Not seeing any improvement for next year unless Tannebum has killer draft.
     
  14. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Strange that you come to a Dolphins board, full of Dolphins fans, not all of whom have lost all hope, and insist that the Dolphins suck now, have always sucked, and will continue to suck for the foreseeable future...and then get upset when people argue with you.
     
  15. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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  16. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    You are obsessed with me apparently.I am flattered.
     
  17. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    Coming from a guy who told me he'd rather argue with me in person...that's an odd conclusion to have reached.
     
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  18. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So, if Gase is indeed our next Shula, he gets one more losing season the next 31 years...
     
  19. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention if he is shula I am pumped.Undefeated next year.Yes!
    Dude come on man.If we lose sunday(I think the bills will choke)gase will be 16-16.This is shula like?
    Don't ever mention shula and gase until he not only wins a division title but a super bowl.
     
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  20. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I agree with everything you said except the stat on running the ball. There have been some games where Williams, Miller, or whoever started busting loose early and we dominated the entire game. But the more common scenario was that we got up on points and ran the entire second half running out the clock. In other words, we didn't win because we ran the ball...we ran the ball because we were already winning.

    The problem lately is that we've started slow on offense (mainly thanks to penalties) and we've been forced to be pass heavy. I think our best offense is pure balance around 50/50 or 60/40 either way depending on the opponent. I do think Drake is a rare talent and I'd love to get him the ball early and often this week...we'll just have to see if the scoreboard allows it.

    Anyway, I think your stat is correct...but I think your line of thinking behind it is incorrect. We can't just run 25 times a game and expect a definite win.
     
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  21. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Actually Key...that's not right. One of the things I'll FREQUENTLY do is have my laptop open while watching Dolphins games and actually track what offensive plays we run. I really do, I literally have it open on NFL.com with the analysis tab open and I'm watching the pass to run plays being called. And I challenge everyone to do the same and see that I really am right.

    When our rush to pass play ratio is nearly 1:1, we're winning the game and doing so impressively but when we're losing, the ratio goes more 2:1. I'm not talking about the final ratio, I'm talking during the game. Try it, I'm sincerely serious here Key.

    25 rushes a game is the key (no pun intended) to our success
     
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  22. cbrad

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    This is generally true: the primary difference in run/pass ratio between a winning team and a losing team occurs in the 4th quarter, suggesting that (as most people would tell you anyway) we ran the ball because we were trying to run out the clock rather than that we won because we ran the ball.

    However.. it's worth mentioning that Gase favors the pass a lot more than other coaches, and I'm not sure it's a good thing. The average NFL team in 2017 passed the ball 56% of the time. The Dolphins were the second highest in passing percentage at 62.28%!!.. beaten only by the NY Giants at 62.37%.
     
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  23. Fame

    Fame Well-Known Member

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    How many other teams have had a coach as good as Shula? Zero.

    How many Super Bowls have been won since Shula retired? Twenty.

    If your only parameter for a head coach is that he is greater than or at least as great as Don Shula then you're going to be eternally disappointed. He's the greatest coach of all time, and in the history of the NFL no team has ever had a coach equal to or greater than him. Yet, teams keep winning the Super Bowl every year.
     
  24. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    Lighten up, Francis.
     
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