It seems the Browns and Giants may have been after the same person in Dorsey. Only in Cleveland can they hire and fire a GM in the same day. I saw that Cleveland won't have a VP. What does that even mean? And is Miami's org chart, with Grier and Tannenbaum the majority or minority in the NFL? Sprinkle in Gase having say on final 53, should Miami streamline this? Are teams more successful, like Pats and Steelers, where one person is making the personnel choices?
In regards to the draft the Pats have been below average for a decade or more. They do better bringing in other team's castoffs and coaching them up. If you think about it, it's actually a really good way to build a team. New England likes smart, hard working players. Yes, skill matters, but not to the extent of the former 2 attributes I mentioned. Picking up guys off of the street and practice squads has benefitted the Pats for years. Why? Well, I assume they are able to get a better feel for how a player will be once they've seen them play against NFL players. Add to it that the guys they pick up feel obligated and motivated and you have a formula for success. That's not to say that the Pats haven't gone after big name free agents, but that's the exception and not the rule with them.
I presume tannebaum and Grier are gonna get another year..it’s year three.. The GM position here really is just a title, Grier is a glorified scout.. OT Laremy Tunsil: “Wherever Tunsil ends up on the Dolphins' offensive line as a rookie — and it isn't expected to be at left tackle before 2017 — he'll improve the front's protection of Ryan Tannehill.” CB Xavien Howard: “Cornerback was a primary draft need for the Dolphins, but three were already off the board when they picked at No. 13 overall in the first round. They turned to Howard with their next choice at No. 38, and will waste no time getting him on the field.” G WR Leonte Carroo: “The Dolphins don't have much need at receiver, especially if DeVante Parker steps up his production, but with Rishard Matthews leaving via free agency, Carroo can still find his way into the mix.” RB Kenyan Drake: “The Dolphins' offense picked up a Swiss army knife of skills here, as Drake could make an impact as a rusher, receiver or return specialist. In one role or another, he'll play.” WR Jakeem Grant: “Of all 253 picks, there isn't a more fun player to watch than the 5-foot-6 Grant, whose blazing speed and confounding open-field skills could compel the Dolphins to use him, at least, as a return man.” Charles Harris, DE, Missouri: When one thinks of the “ideal” size for a 4-3 defensive end, a guy like Cameron Wake doesn’t necessarily fit the bill. Neither does Harris, but that did not keep the Missouri product from creating havoc off the edge as a college star. Outside of Wake, there simply was not enough meaningful depth at defensive end on the Dolphins’ roster, so Harris should find himself with an ample shot at playing time. Of note is that Miami also passed on Reuben Foster, as well as on Forrest Lamp, who could have slotted in as a starting guard for them out of the gate. GRADE: B Round 2, Pick 22 (No. 54) Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State: Applaud the thinking here by the Dolphins, who knew they still needed an infusion of athleticism at linebacker despite how satisfied they seem to be with Kiko Alonso. McMillan is a three-down guy, whether Miami opts to use him in the middle or on the outside. The surprise, if there is one: Vanderbilt LB Zach Cunningham’s still available. GRADE: B+ Round 3, Pick 33 (No. 97) Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson: Another in-your-face cornerback with size joins a secondary that's suddenly chock full of them. Tankersly might remind Dolphins fans of veteran Byron Maxwell or 2016 draft pick Xavien Howard—he has that same physical (to a fault) approach. He could be a very good cornerback, or he could be a guy teams attack. GRADE: B– Round 5, Pick 20 (No. 164) Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah Round 5, Pick 35 (No. 178) Davon Dochaux, DT, LSU Round 5, Pick 41 (No. 184) Nate Gerry, S, Nebraska Round 6, Pick 10 (No. 194) Vincent Taylor, DT, Oklahoma State Round 7, Pick 19 (No. 237) Isaiah Ford, WR, Virginia Tech Their two drafts are looking pretty good..8 starters from two drafts, plus multiple Rome players from those two drafts
Looking back two years, it would be hard to have a better draft than Tunsil, Howard and Drake in the early rounds. Yes, Carroo hasn't broken into the lineup yet and we traded multiple picks there- that sucked. Yet that's all many people focus on when they look at the 2016 draft instead of seeing that we got contributors up and down the roster. It's also important to note that Howard missed significant playing time to injury, just like McMillian this season. But again, you look at 2017 and we have Harris, McMillian and Tank all as projected day one starters- who in their right mind calls that a bad draft? Especially when our 5th, 6th, and 7th round players are also getting field time. When you look at the past two seasons, it's hard to see a "bust" anywhere from top to bottom. And I'm sorry, Carroo not starting doesn't make him a bust by any means. People want to act like Tannenbaum has crippled this organization yet when you look on paper, that's just not the case. We were smart not to reach for additional linemen in the draft because it clearly wasn't our biggest need IF we had RT on the field. I think we will only get better as Tank, Harris, McMillan and Howard develop. Remember, we lost the team nucleus on offense (RT) and defense (McMillian) this season before it even started. Anyone who doesn't think that effects win percentage is clearly not thinking at all.
everything I read on this board is everyone is back, Tannehill, Wake, Pouncey, James, Tannenbaum, Grier, Gase, Burke. This is a mediocre set of individuals that either cost a ton of money or have no business in their current positions. Miami needs to CHANGE things up to elevate themselves from mediocrity to sustainable winning
Yeah as really they do cost a lot of money. And hopefully that by in 2018. They will be healthy enough. But it seems some will either be cut or traded.
This is absurd. Your "plan" is to get rid of our best talent, instead of replacing our worst talent. Thank god you're just 30 names on a message board and not the GM.
Best talent? Lol. Who is going to the Pro Bowl? Best talent on a team that is 5-7 and players on teams here still that sucked during the Philbin era and before Learn the game
"your best players," who have been mediocre for years is part of the grassroots problem here. Holding on to dreams that Tannehill is elite, Wake is a premier pass rusher and Pouncey is a Pro Bowler, is the exact reason we are mediocre. Miami can rebuild their trenches with more depth and still keep a solid core of the team, like WRs, LBs and he Secondary. Learn the math, learn the cap and learn what Phily and LA did t their trenches and what they paid. School is in
This is so stupid. Forget its me you're arguing with for a minute. If you have a team of players and each one can be rated on a scale of 1-100, does it make more sense to get to replace the ones that are 50 or below or the ones that are 75 and above? Really try hard to think this through.
coming from a guy that believes Tannehill is the savior here still. That alone tells me the level of your posts
what's amazing about you is that the team needs to shed salary to be competitive next year. $16M for Pouncey and James? $9M Wake? $7M for Thomas? $15M for Tannehill? That's close to $50M. Miami can be way better alone by cutting those players. They can even get more players than those 5 and have cash left over. If Gase is who he is, he will be able to coach younger, cheaper and better players.
Sure on Pouncey, he's not one of our best players. But if you think getting rid of a Top 10 QB, one of the best pass rushers in the league, a solid RT and our best STer, will make our team better, then you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Plain and simple. All you'll have done is create MORE holes to fill. You're talking full on rebuild from the ground up, all because we played bad when our QB went down. it is beyond asinine.
Fin, think the Thomas that DL was referring to is Julius Thomas. It is possible that Pouncey and Thomas are gone, with James likely as well (particularly if the guy that is currently playing RG - name escapes me for some reason - plays well over the rest of the season). Like it or not, RT is likely to be going nowhere. DL, don't think anyone is saying that he is elite but there are a lot of teams in a worse QB situation and the draft isn't a sure thing. The only reason that CW will go anywhere is if the front office decide not to offer him anything and he decides he wants to go to a contender for a final year or two.
