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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. canesz06

    canesz06 Well-Known Member

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    Are they gonna drop half a hundred on the Dolphins?
     
  2. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, Xavien Howard.
     
  3. Berezo

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    Actually you are right, I think that makes it worse though...
     
  4. Dolphan24

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    Press conference should be fun this week lol
     
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  5. CanGasePlaybook

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    Probably, it seems like they are trying to slow down and show mercy lol
     
  6. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Awful!
     
  7. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Tell me again how xavian howard was supposed to be our shutdown corner. The guy has been terrible all year long another major draft fail by the FO. Oh and can somebody tell me whereour 1st round pick this year is?
     
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  8. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Defense has just been abused tonight. I'd make everyone on this roster by Kenyan Drake find their own way back to the facility for a 6am full pads practice tomorrow. **** these guys, what a terrible effort all night long.
     
  9. CanGasePlaybook

    CanGasePlaybook Active Member

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    Where are all of these Gasy fans who said we are a playoff team? Time to wake up!
     
  10. CanGasePlaybook

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    Oh, Marino looks pissed!!!
     
  11. phins18

    phins18 Active Member

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    you need to wake up that no coach would make this team remotely good. we were lucky to make the playoffs last year. to act like this is a coaching issue is to show a complete lack of football knowledge.
     
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  12. hitman8

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    Chase allen needs to play more. He is better than kiko. Hayes also needs more snaps.

    On offense we need to fire gase. There is nothing else we can do there.
     
  13. hazed819

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    This team has Dan Marino crying... are you happy now.
     
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  14. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    National broadcast games this year.

    Lost 20-0 in London to the Saints
    Lost 40-0 to Baltimore
    Lost 27-24 to Oakland
    Losing 45-14 tonight with 8 to go.

    That's just... really bad when the spotlight is on you.
     
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  15. jw3102

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    The reason we have no cap space is because Tannebaum has signed players to huge contracts which they never deserved in the first place. This is the same thing he did in New York and the reason the Jets were in Cap Hell when he was fired.

    Ross had been an NFL owner long enough prior to hire Tannebaum. Therefore he should have
    have been wise enough to hire someone who can actually be an effective, head of football operations. It appears he only hired Tannebaum because he didn’t know any better and Tannebaum
    was from New York.

    After nine years as the owner of the Dolphins, I blame Ross for the fact this team is no better today than it was the year he became the majority owner of the team. If he can’t do a better job hiring the right individuals to run this football team, he needs to sell it to an owner who will actually take the time to hire the right individuals to run the organization.
     
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  16. RGF

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    And Griese looks wasted.
     
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  17. Berezo

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    Sorry we don't do that. Suh is going to Kansas City, Wake to New Orleans, Jones to Minnesota, and Landry to New England. That'll show them. Don't worry will get 5th round picks for them though.
     
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  18. phins18

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    im not a huge gase fun you dip****. i can recognize a complete an utter lack of talent when i see it. i saw it last year when we were an average at best team and made it to the playoffs miracally.
     
  19. CanGasePlaybook

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    Lmao! I’d love t hear what Marino and Griese say about this team when they are drunk.
     
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  20. hitman8

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    This team has plenty of talent on both sides of the ball. At least enough to not get repeatedly embarrassed on national TV like this. This is definitely a coaching issue more than a talent issue. Gase has lost this team.

    Unlike some of you on this forum, his players are no longer buying his kool-aid.
     
  21. CanGasePlaybook

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    Agreed
     
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  22. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I dont know man, I hear ya, but he didn't hire Ross just because he was from New York. Come on, that's just nonsense. I think he hired him simply because of his experience, and lets face it, Tannenbaum is a talker. He sold him. That's his job as a guy lookin for a job. Again, I can see the logic train, not saying I agree with it, but I can see what he was thinking after the Ireland mess.

    He's likely not selling anytime soon, not after the cash he's sunk into this organization with salary, and stadium.

    Look, this team needs a culture overhaul, Gase is at least working that angle still, trying to set that tone. We've been a vacation destination too long for NFL players. It's got to stop. The problem though with the NFL is, it takes a long time to get it to stop. You can only do so much at a time.

    I'm with you though, aside from a few technicalities :lol:
     
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  23. jdallen1222

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    Definitely a **** show tonight. Cutler looked bad and that zone read option killed us on defense.
     
  24. phins18

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    unprepared or has no talent? cause they've had no talent for about 15 years now. nothing has changed with the coach.
     
  25. Boik14

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    That tells me we are soft. And the memo is now out.
     
  26. Berezo

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    Where can I watch the post game presser in full? I only manage to find clips. That's going to be the most entertaining.
     
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  27. CanGasePlaybook

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    How many garbage coaches have we had since Shula? I lost count. This team has talent they just aren’t prepared and the play calling has been garbage...all on the coaching. Then even if it was a talent issue....who picks the talent? Gase has had a lot of say in regards to the players; Thomas, Cutler and more.
     
  28. phins18

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    every team has some talent. this team has holes that are impossible for the best coach to overcome. without Tannehill, we have the worst OL in the league by far, an absolute disgrace of a QB, terrible TE's who are no threat to receive or run block, and now a lack of RB's. On defense we have a decent OL, but no consistent 2nd DT, bad CB's, some of the least talented and worst lb's in the league, and prior to mcdonald starting one of the worst starting safeties in the league.

    This is the same team that got lucky last year to squeak out close games against terrible teams, just like i said here right after the end of last year. You guys just stupidly bought kool aid from a clearly undeserving 6th seed wildcard team despite there being almost no difference yearly from the team that gets that 6th playoff seed to the 9th or 10th team in the conference. it's all about luck, and we got beyond lucky and had a horrific schedule last year.
     
  29. phins18

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    dolphins now have basically the same point differential as the Browns, and have barely scored more points than them, but by all means continue to blame the coaching for a team that is utterly depraved on talent on both sides of the ball for the 16th straight year.
     
  30. RGF

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    Probably the same as we do.
     
  31. jw3102

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    The fact Ross was gullible enough to fall for whatever Tannebaum was selling him to get the position
    clearly shows that Ross doesn’t have a clue as an NFL owner.

    If he doesn’t sell the team and he keeps Tannebaum as, head of football operations, I don’t see this football team getting any better in the near future. Tannehill or not, this team is just full of players with very little talent to play in the NFL, IMO.

    Based on how the team has played over the last month, I also think Gase has lost most of the players on the team. They just aren’t playing hard for him any longer.
     
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  32. brandon27

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    I don't know man, but I look at this team the last several coaches and we've had the same problem. These players we have on this roster seem to treat it like it's a country club vacation type atmosphere.

    You've got guys all over the field who aren't winning their matchups. WR's not getting open. Dropping passes. Guys missing blocks, getting beaten by their man before even getting their hands on them to block, not getting to the second level, WR's not blocking, or even caring to. I mean, you can talk, teach, yell, scream, threaten guys all you want as a coaching staff, but some guys just aren't going to get it, nor will they care to.

    So to me the question becomes, who on this team is under performing? Who's not living up to their potential? Who's got a high ceiling, who hasn't reached it. Especially on offense, because if we're going to try and pin this on Gase, offense is his baby. So who?

    Landry? he is what he is. He's what he's always been.
    Parker? Again, is what he is. Nothing gained. Still inconsistent, unreliable. This preceeds Gase too, so it's likely the player.
    Stills? Showed improvement last year. Disappointing this year as teams adjusted to us. I can see this one either way.

    The OL? Its the same unit basically due to cap restrictions. Tunsil isn't progressing. Is that off field? Is it bad coaching? He's another that the jury is out on.

    James has improved under this staff IMO.

    TE... who's really on the roster at this position worth discussing? Thomas was a shot at a guy the HC had experience with. It's pretty clear though his ability as a player has declined. That's physical. Fasano was brought in to block, he's still decent at that, but that's where his value ends. But if not Thomas as TE1, then who? Who do we have? Who else could we have afforded with our cap situation?

    RB... Drake IMO continues to be misused. Just look at his numbers since Ajayi's departure. Why is Williams getting touches still? That's on Gase IMO.

    I dont know, but I look at this roster, and I see a hell of alot more problems with this roster than I do with coaching. Not that coaching isn't an issue, it is, but man, this roster... where do you want it to grow? Carroo? Grant? What have we really seen from them to say we've dropped the ball?

    That's just the offense. What ceiling is there, that we're not reaching/breaking?

    Is coaching an issue? Yeah, Gase is struggling in year 2 as teams have adjusted to him, and he's struggling to adjust, but alot of that is due to a pretty limited personnel set to work with. Especially without his starting QB.

    Again, not absolving him of fault... just it's easy to blame the HC, I get that, but look deeper and you should be able to see there's a pretty big mess here that preceeds him.
     
  33. CanGasePlaybook

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    I bet he loses the locker room before the end of the season.
     
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  34. Dorfdad

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    Gase has a major role in acquiring this talent. He also is the one who threw the team under the bus it’s no wonder they gave up on him and are probably trying to get him fired this team looks weak, slow, and unprepared every week!

    Gase can yell all he wants no one S listening to him. He’s lost control 9 games in!
     
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  35. CanGasePlaybook

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    Just wait until one of our division rivals embarrasses us.
     
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  36. brandon27

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    No, he doesn't. He's not the GM. He has an opinion, yes, but he doesn't have the final say. That rests with the GM... now whether that's actually Greir, or Tannenbaum... nobody knows. Gase does not have final say in personnel though unless something in his contract has changed from when he was hired. Stop trying to pass off your opinion as fact.
     
  37. Dorfdad

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    Who fought for Julian Thomas? Who went to bat and called Cutler out of retirement? I’m not stating opinion I’m stating Facts had he not wanted either of these two clowns we would not have gotten them. Both have cost us games!

    I never said he was the GM either but they clearly did what he wanted.
     
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  38. CanGasePlaybook

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    Gasy the guru! The ESPN proclaimed offensive genius that Ross fell in love with. I would have rather gotten Shanahan instead of Gase.
     
  39. texanphinatic

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    Neither of those were mistakes, they just haven't worked out. It happens. Thomas was a cheap flier, Cutler a necessary risk.

    Now, some of the contracts that have been given out lately? Erg. Stills contract is bad, and I like the dude. Branch contract ... wtf? The Kiko/Maxwell trade. Bleh.
     
  40. texanphinatic

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    He's an NFL owner. None of them really have a clue. They hire the people who have plans that sound good and make sense. Eventually, if that doesn't work, they move on. Bottom line, you want an owner to be loose with the cash and to not inject themselves. That's it. **** everything else. Hiring is a crapshoot. Throw ****ing darts at the wall.

    You change owners and you can end up with way worse. Cheapskates that won't spend on FA, bleed fans dry, move the team, or get busted for rampant drug use. Ross is fine.
     
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