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Gase is out of his mind and his ego is out of control.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by hitman8, Oct 31, 2017.

  1. phins18

    phins18 Active Member

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    Landry is not a special talent. There are 20 guys in the league who can do what he does, and a lot more who can do more. For the amount of targets he gets, he is not nearly productive enough. He is a good #2, but he is not close to a #1 WR in the league.

    The team would be smart to trade him for as much as you can get for him right now.
     
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  2. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    what is better? keep laundry for the rest of the season. Then watch him walk bc he wants a contract that he isn't worth. (get nothing)

    OR

    Trade him now for a 2 or 3 rounder and get something for him?
     
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  3. CanGasePlaybook

    CanGasePlaybook Active Member

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    Gase wouldn’t get a 2 or 3.....more like a 5th. Gase is a genius!
     
  4. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    ya your right a guy who his limited and only limited to YAC yards, never gets shots down the field only slants. I bet if he was never a dolphin and was on say the pats or even Pittsburgh youd be saying a different tune. The guy has the ability to make a 3 yard slant into a td and I can count maybe 5 other guys in the league who can do that, with his ability to make people miss tackles one being his BFFFFFF OBJ
     
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    MrPhinn Active Member

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    Be careful what you wish for.
     
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  6. CanGasePlaybook

    CanGasePlaybook Active Member

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    Landry would be unstoppable in the Pats system. Hell, I bet he is begging to get traded now.
     
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  7. CanGasePlaybook

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    I’m actually happy for Ajayi. This is his only chance of getting to a SB. Miami will never make it to another SB.
     
  8. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    And he managed 3 200+ yards a game last year over 1200 yards total, 2 100+ yards a game this year behind the WORST offensive line in America.

    Imagine just for a second if he had a coach who could get him to focus and work on those skills he needs adjustments to. I mean isn't that what a coach is supposed to do? Not just sit back and work with the skillset that a player comes with. DO YOU DAMN JOB.

    Gase is blaming the team and I will be surprised honestly if he doesn't lose this team. Players see whats happening and they will immediately go into cover their own *** mode and just tune out coach.
     
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  9. phins18

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    Lol, ya, no he doesnt have the ability to do that. He has scored very few td's in his career. He is not that kind of guy. He is a glorified slot receiver being used heavily because of our terrible run game and lack of other receiving options, specifically at TE. He is not all that elusive, and he gives up yards constantly by not going up field and instead trying to turn a 5 yard gain into a 75 yard gain and then ending up with 2-3 yards. He is a nice player and has nice hands, but he is nothing more than a #2 receiver. IF he was your #1, your receiving corps arent good. Id be thrilled with re-signing him for the right price that pays him like an above average WR, but to pay him WR1 money would be incredibly stupid.
     
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  10. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    I never said he was a top1 receiver, all im saying is his candid ability to make guys miss, you ever think he runs backwards because hes a play maker and tired of getting the ball on 3 yards and trying to make plays that his offense isn't doing? I bet the guy in 10 yard post routes would make a killing, oh that's right we don't have those in our playbook, BUBBLE SCREEN IT IS, go ahead landry take on 11 guys by yourself ready break!!!!
     
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  11. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    PAY the man and find a QB or coach that can get him the ball. WHY TRADE TALENTED PLAYERS who is going to replace him?
     
  12. phins18

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    A coach's job in the NFL is not to teach players how to be professional. This guy is in his 3rd year, if he still isnt studying the playbook and is acting like a jackass off the field by worrying about individual stats and touches even when the team wins then his ****ty *** knees can go enjoy philly. He isnt getting a big 2nd contract in this league.

    A coaches job is to put the players in the best position. By and large, Gase is really good at that. He lets Landry do what he is best at, he let Ajayi pound the ball and then turn the RB position to Williams on passing downs because he is better than Ajayi was catching the ball. And Gase doesnt let his QB's air it out this year because our QB's ****ing suck without tannehill and our OL is a ****ign trainwreck. Tannenbaum is the one to blame in regards to why our offense sucks, not Gase.
     
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  13. phins18

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    Thats the exact point. He isnt a #1 WR and is askign to be paid like one. He is a #2 WR. The best teams trade those guys when it happens in a salary cap sport.

    Have you ever given thought to the point that maybe Stills and Parker are better at those routes and that our OL makes it more imperative that we get the ball out quickly before our QB gets murdered in the backfield?
     
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  14. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    So wrong.. GASE is the coach he's also the offensive coordinator if he's allowing this **** to happen it's his FAULT not the players.
    GASE has clearly lost control of the team at this point. He can scream bloody murder its going to turn off the players to his message and vision tossing players under the bus. If players are NOT studying and he can somehow tell this in practice sit their asses. Don't play them.

    GASE by and large hasn't proven anything in this league. Hes TODD BOWLES // Rex Ryan part 2. One / two good years and than regression at this point. He hasn't adjusted and others figured him out.

    He has potential but he's had 2 years to get his type of system in place and yes tannehill got hurt but the doesn't answer all the teams problems. gase doesn't get a free ride from me and a lot of others. The GM I agree sucks but so does this staff.
     
  15. phins18

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    So if they arent studying he should sit their asses and not play them, but he trades one who has clearly been an issue for 2+ years and you are up in arms?

    I dont think this staff develops players well, but i do tend to think that Gase is a good coach because he plays to the ability of his talent. I dont think you guys uynderstand how impossible it is for him to be considered a good offensive coach this year once tannehill got hurt and our guard situation for the 5th straight year is by far the worst in the league.

    What plays do you want him to call exactly? Our run game is non existent because we get no push up front. That is a tannenbaum issue for ignoring it and drafting poorly year after year. Our QB sucks because Tannehill got hurt. We have 0 good TE's to use in the red zone. Our highest potential WR keeps having leg injuries but has been good when he plays. Cutler is completely inaccurate with his passes and Matt Moore sucks and always has sucked. What exactly do you want Gase to do? We cant run, and if we pass, we cant pass protect which is why you see all the quick screens and bull**** that drives us all crazy. If we went more downfield more often, we would be having tons of interceptions cause Moore and Cutler stink and our OL cant block. He is playing to whatever few strengths this team has.
     
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  16. phins18

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    This team really isnt far away. We will cut Julius thomas in the offseason, and after that we will have 23 million to spend and all our draft picks. We need to pick up a TE, 2 guards, a 3rd WR once Landry leaves, and a MLB. We have a good CB in Tankersly, McCain has been a good nickel guy, Timmons has been unreal, and our DL is the teams strength. If McDonald is what this team tends to think he is, we have a great safety situation. Tannehill coming back and then fixing the OL and giving us our first actual player at TE in years would do wonders to the consistency of our offense.
     
  17. dolphin25

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    So, who runs the ball now?
     
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  18. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Rez....you really should join the Club. I don't know how you stand it out here. I can only take it a little at a time. lol
     
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  19. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Where are these facts you write about?
     
  20. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    RT doesn't have bad knees. Wake produces at an all-pro level. 3.5 ypc isn't all-pro
     
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  21. CanGasePlaybook

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    Lol, reading the Philly message boards is pretty entertaining today. They all seem really glad that Gase “Guru” isn’t their head coach lol. I knew when Gase was hire that he was a bum.
     
  22. CanGasePlaybook

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    Do you realize that our offensive line is worse this year and the play calling is atrocious? Defenses are stacking the box. How is he supposed to run when there are zero holes?
     
  23. CanGasePlaybook

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    What do you call the injury to RT then?
     
  24. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    Landry lacks size, so parker auto gets the 50/50 routes, number 2 stills is faster that's it stills route running is par at best but his speed makes up for it. this team will miss him if he leaves and goes on to be a top 10 wr in this league which seems to Miami MO.
    Ill give the O-Line a break since their coach was doing blow off strippers @$$ but I don't see how every other team manages throw down the field not all of the have average to above average lines. even the browns with out joe Thomas get the ball down the field.
     
  25. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Why are you not at the Jets forum?
     
  26. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    You should really watch the games. And if you're already watching the games, have someone explain them to you.
     
  27. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    If you think ajayi is the problem (which I don't) and you want to send a message you bench him. You don't however trade away one of the top five running backs in the league for a 4th round pick. That is just crazy and stupid.
     
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  28. danmarino

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    If he was top 5 I'd agree with you.
     
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  29. phins18

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    Im sure the team will miss him if he leaves. that's not my point at all. My point is that you cannot in any way pay him a contract that pays him like a #1.

    The browns did major work on their OL over the offseason. They dont have a bad line. I would say that while not every team has above average o-lines, no one has had a trainwreck in the interior like the dolphins do for years now. If our guard and even center play could be average we would be in a much different position. This O-line is incredible far away from average.
     
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  30. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    I agree there is something underlining here that is yet to come out, mark my words ajayi will strive for the eagles and gase and Miami will be sitting there like every other yr looking stupid as all hell.
     
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  31. phins18

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    They already benched him last year. How long do you put up with a guy who doesnt want to act professional at an utterly replaceable position. He also isnt a top 5 RB because he is a complete 0 in the passing game.
     
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  32. hitman8

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    Gase is mad that ajayi freelances instead of taking the 2 or 3 puny yards available through the puny hole opened by the oline. Big ****ing deal. How about him realizing that the bigger problem is him trying to run It into stacked fronts to begin with?

    Ajayi was just tired of getting stuffed that is why he started freelanding to make something happen. The guy plays harder than just about anyone else on the team.
     
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  33. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    in all honesty it was his freelance that got him to the probowl last year im trying very hard to see the issue with this.
     
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  34. danmarino

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    Five 100+ yard games out of 22. 11 out of those 22 he produced a ypc of 4 yards or more. 8 TD's in 22 games. 218 yards receiving in 22 games.

    These are not "Top 5 RB in the league" numbers.
     
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  35. LI phinfan

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    Do you ever get tired of knee jerk reactions or going overboard? EVER? Seriously, this is all surprising, but take a step back off the ledge. Do you honestly think Ajayi was traded on a whim or to feed his own ego? Please tell me you can see that is silly. Take a deep breath.
     
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  36. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    someone will pay him if we don't, and he will be a top 10 receiver weather he's your number 1 or not. That's how the game works he's a special talent that "good" teams will utilize. if I remember someone (jets) paid eric decker a huge contract and he was never a number 1. just how things go, I would honestly love to see him in a good system so everyone can realize how good he is at what he does. Because we don't use him well enough.
     
  37. phins18

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    ya, and that erick decker contract was a stupid ****ing contract on a bad team. Landry has at no point ever been a top 10 receiver or even on the periphery of that. He is a nice slot receiver, but he doesnt have "throw it up to him" size or "game breaking" speed. He is what he is, a nice slot possession receiver who plays with fire. You dont pay guys like that #1 WR money.

    Just because "that's how things go" doesnt mean you have to do it. It's the reason smart teams like the Pats and Packers among others generally stay out of free agency on players like that.

    Look at Landry's production relative to his targets compared to the best receivers in the league like Green, Jones, Beckham, etc.
     
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  38. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    hes on a sub par team with sub par qb's with sub par coaching, do you expect him to be a top 5 on Miami no, its going to be a LOOONNNNNGGGG while until Miami has a top 5 wr the duper clayton days are from in front of our face. im just telling you whatever you want to think, deckers contract was bad but trust me someone will pay landry 10 mill a yr and all i can hope for is its a good team to utilize him because we don't. We wouldn't know how to use a plunger on this team.
     
  39. phins18

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    And again, just because someone is willing to pay him WR1 money doesnt make it worthwhile for us to match it in a salary cap sport. And Landry has had good enough qb play with Tannehill. I think tannehill is average to above average, but it Landry was truly special you would know. Look at AJ Green, Demaryius Thomas, OBJ, TY Hilton, and even Fitzgerald over his entire career. If he was a top 10 wr, you would know at this point.
     
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  40. bigballa2102

    bigballa2102 Well-Known Member

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    the fact you think tannehill is decent enough to use landry is the problem, tannehill was barely figuring out his game last yr his no audible no hot route self wouldn't use a slot guy like Landry. And like I said if they don't match it so be it what im saying is someone will pay him and he will strive somewhere they can use him. who could use a slot guy hmm, let me see 31 other teams in the league lol until edelman comes back then 30.
     
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