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Cutler Vs Moore Next Week

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Oct 22, 2017.

  1. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Hahaha ya seriously no lines = win/win.

    The reason I bring up the ego stuff is because of a grip of things that have come out of his press conferences:

    1. He hates being challenged on any personnel decision ESPECIALLY the quarterback. Prevailing logic is "he's a head coach and we're just fans" but I'm sorry did the fans know less than some of the prior head coaches we had?
    2. When prompted about the palpable change in the urgency/effectiveness of the offense once Moore came in his excuse was that the other players around him stepped up for the backup QB. Just like Salguero mentioned in his article - where was that urgency once Cutler stepped in for Tanny? If anything it shows you a single player can make a difference in the energy.
    3. When prompted about the change in the offensive rhythm Gase had some two-bit comment that he simply called plays Moore liked. Ummmm yes Adam, that's what you should do as a head coach.

    I guess the word I'm also looking for is he's a reluctant supporter of anything Moore does. That's just what I get out of it anyway. Ironically Moore has full support/respect of the locker room. The Cutler signing is a slippery one. He didn't come out of retirement to be embarrassed or leave on a stretcher. The latter part he's trying to avoid by not letting plays develop and constantly throwing off his back foot. But the first thing is mostly up to Gase.

    I'll shut up now. Let's get this game tonight that's mostly what I care about.
     
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  2. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Sticky this post in thread please. All the ironies laid out on the table.
     
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  3. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    If you watch him with his teammates on the sidelines he's everything but passionless.

    Cutler gets a bad rap because of his face...lol...he has resting b!tch face. However, if you watch him he's fiery.
     
  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    god Billick is an uninformed analyst...he compares how cutler can make big plays that Moore can't...moore has more plays over 20 yards then cutler has all season..
     
  5. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    You call me dumb, while you actually think I was talking about Matt Flynn playing in the Super Bowl? Jesus ****ing christ ... That point sailed so far over your head it hit the goddam moon.

    You seem to be. I was taking info direct from the source. You can play with your speculation all you want.
     
  6. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Haha that's true about RBF. He just has a ... surly demeanor to him. Off-Field he acts that way as well, which doesn't help. Players generally seem to speak well of him though.
     
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  7. SlyFoxxx

    SlyFoxxx Sorry for Party Rocking

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    No, he's not.
     
  8. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I remind people of that a lot as well...his blank stare doesn't signal that he doesn't care. That's just Cutler. He has shown a decent bit of emotions on this sideline this year though and the guy is trying to help us win. He looked good last week when Gase took the training wheels off, so we'll see if that's a trend or just something they did because of the horrible field conditions.
     
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  9. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Here's the thing though. If you ask Tannehill what play he wants to run, there's no telling what his answer may be. RT is going to look at the down/distance, glance at the scoreboard, think about how the defense is playing him and choose the safest play to gain yardage. If he sees an opportunity then he's going to ask to exploit it...which is what all solid QB's do.

    With Moore, he has the same answer to that question every time- let it rip. We need to attack and use our stud receivers to their full potential and put points on the board now. That's just his mentality....it always has been.

    Gase knows that he has a stud of a backup in Moore, but he's far too conditioned to just keep calling for the bomb and cross his fingers. That's not a game-plan, it's a philosophy, and it could lead to a truly horrible deficit if things go wrong. The funny thing is, Cutler used to play EXACTLY like Moore until Gase worked it out of him...Gase basically tamed the giant and had him running a balanced offense as a game manager in Chicago....which is exactly what we ask Tannehill to do.

    So I can understand why Gase would be hesitant to turn to Moore often- he's a wildcard, an X-factor. And he's going to do whatever he sees on the field which is not what Gase necessarily wants. He's far too methodical for that....just look how much he coached up Manning to change his playstyle. But I'm thinking that to do that successfully, you're putting all your focus on one guy (AKA Tannehill and eventually Cutler). Moore is pretty much just doing his own thing and Gase is probably fine with that for his backup...but not his starter.
     
  10. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Haha. The Dolphins may not be doing well with Cutler, but they're still better off with him. No contest, start Cutler against the Raiders.

    Off topic: Hw mad is the NFL they have this garbage offense in primetime 3 straight weeks? Dolphins continue to be the biggest tease of a franchise. Any time they have a marginally good season, they follow it up by playing some of the worse primetime games the following year.
     
  11. Rock Sexton

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    Ironically Moore didn't do that tonight. Guess Gase kind've got in his head because this could've easily been a 2-3 interception game if Moore started taking shots amidst the pocket havoc.

    That being said - regardless of any of the elements working against him Moore didn't do anything tonight to serve his cause as a future starter. Not even close.
     
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  12. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Yes, he is.
     
  13. SlyFoxxx

    SlyFoxxx Sorry for Party Rocking

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    Meh, he’s not what I or most people would describe as fiery. I’m sure he’s competitive and gets a bad wrap, but his demeanor isn’t fiery.
     
  14. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I spoke too soon. There was the #2 interception.
     
  15. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I agree, it was an ugly ugly game. I'm not sure why I watched the whole thing.
     
  16. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I didn't feel good about it given the short week but also I didn't expect it to be this bad. I thought we'd see a 17-14 kind of game. I didn't pay enough attention to key Ravens players returning to the lineup.
     
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  17. Dolphin North

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    I turned it off. Turned off a rare game I could catch in HD. I decided instead to go take a dump and watch it float around in the toilet. Same HD quality as the TV but a more interesting product to watch.
     
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  18. Walter

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    Bring in Moore, play Cutler, hell bring in one of the rookies it really doesn't matter.

    Sure one of those guys will win a game or 2 more maybe even 3 but it still keeps us in the crapper....

    Only thing that will help us is finding a QB that doesn't need a Offensive Line to play behind. And they don't exist..Thus a pretty good reason to focus on hmmmm....OL OL OL...(sadly again next year)

    Screw the QB build a offensive line of strength then you can start talking about how good a QB is....Moore thats the alternative ??? wow thats really funny and sad.....
    ( this was posted a month ago)

    It's that 'echo' that just keeps echoing and never taken seriously enough, and we keep getting the same results even with some really lucky wins. ...

    Not saying QB is not a problem but with this crapy of an OL we aren't getting a accurate evaluation and also can not expect the defense to be very good if your on the field all the time.... Gase is lost I'm saddened to say...
     
  19. Big Phin

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    One thing was evident last night, it doesn't matter who the QB is if this O-line doesn't get it together. Whoever it is, they are going to get killed. It's very disappointing.
     
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  20. hitman8

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    That is true, and that also is gase's fault. He is the one that thought we don't need any quality guards to run the offense and he is also the one who didn't notice his oline coach was a crazy cokehead junkie.
     
  21. Walter

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    Gase is over his head and the buck stops with him but this OL problem is universal from the top of the organization to even the fans feeling like the QB and HC are the bigger problem. One more off season of looking for OL backups and I think I'll have reached my "can't take another season " belief...Its truly like we are cursed to ignore this critical problem, which the whole fan base should be blowing up the whole organization for their ignorance in such a basic area of need for success...year after year...
     

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