[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivE04QipjY"]YouTube - UFO ALIEN PROOF! UK MASS DISCLOSURE No more is it a question[/ame] I know I'm like a month behind but wondering why no one has talked about this. So I can't find the article but Governments are starting to release files of U.F.O sightings. Now when that happened the Vatican released a statement saying believing Aliens does not conflict with your beliefs (very clever ) That much you knew though. I figured I'd start a chat about this. What does this all mean? Does this prove were not alone? Alright lets get the ball rolling people.
This is old news, some governments released their files years ago and I think the Vatican spoke on this a year or two ago. But I agree about opening up the discussion. With the admission by former astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell and several governments, I think people have to take a serious look at this subject instead of just pushing it off to the side and rolling their eyes.
Actually I guess I'll ask in this thread. Is it possible to get a decent quality telescope for under $100? I'd love to keep an eye in the sky for this kind of stuff! On topic: I'm 100% sure there is other life out there, just depends whether we have been visited or not.
The trouble is that the term "UFO" doesn't actually mean Unidentified Flying Object. It's used as shorthand for "alien spacecraft." This muddies the waters, so to say, of the discussion.
Agreed. Many think when they hear U.F.O they think Aliens. I know its old but I didn't think years old. I think I heard some of it on C2C about how Governments where starting to release documents of UFO sightings. Now I think its really interesting that there are literally tens of thousands of sightings and alot of people brush it aside. I know some can be explained but there is alot of mystery behind these topics.
Well, in this case Mitchell came right out and said that there are UFO's with aliens inside and that the US government knows about it and has covered it up. People roll their eyes at the thought of it because of the perception that if you believe in that sort of thing that you're a loon, but with Mitchell's statement and several governments around the country admitting pretty much the same thing, I'm hoping that it will bring about an honest and open discussion instead of the "You don't really believe in that stuff" reactions.
Its very interesting how so much proof throughout history can be labeled crazy talk. I would love to hear peoples explanations of U.F.O's through out history in old documents and paintings.
Well people do distort things to fit their argument. As an example I posted those bible passages in the other thread that people have used to say "Ah HA", but I don't personally believe them to be proof of alien life or even a description of it. What makes it tough is the difference in understanding. In todays world of technology we can look at something in the sky and give a pretty accurate description of what we saw based on the technology that we know. When people saw things in the sky 2,000 years ago they only knew how to explain it in terms that they understood. That's why you see some descriptions of what they saw and some pictures as well of them being a chariot or a comet. They didn't know how to describe an antigravity flying disk so they did the best that they could. And when we look back and see those descriptions it's easy for some people to say that it's misinterprated as a UFO. I would suspect that would still be the case, and truth be told, some people will never give the subject a chance unless they see a UFO land in their yard, so I don't really expect much to change on that front.
Its improbable that we have had alien visitors unless they have mastered travel through wormholes in the time/space continuem ,through dimensions ,through time or can travel millions of times faster than the speed of light...........the later is improbable. So if aliens do exist then its probable wormholes exist too and that means we can visit other planets once we have the technology . The wormholes have been theorized but have not been proved. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/hawking/strange/html/wormhole.html
I have came to terms that there has to be life out there. Look at the Nazca Lines http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_1.htm Also note the UFO's throughout history. http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html Now I should have told you guys this but on History Channel UFO files did a episode on UFO's throughout history they spent a small portion of the show to point out UFO's in cave paintings and Old paintings. It brought up alot of good points.
I think it's important to point out that the "its improbable" statement is based solely on our admittedly small knowledge of the universe and based on the technologies we've been able to develop so far.
Well that's the thing, the distances would lead us to believe that making it from one star to the next in our lifetime would be impossible. But look at how far we've come technologically speaking over the past 50 years, theoretically any civilization that had a 1,000 year or 10,000 year headstart on us may have figured that out and what seems like an impossible task for us might be nothing more than a Sunday drive to them. I know that I saw a program on either the History channel or the Discovery channel where scientists had sent a single point of data (I think it was a musical note) back in time (no more than a second) via a laser system, but I can't for the life of me find the link. If anyone knows what I'm talking about or saw the same show, could you post a link.
Well I think were starting to slow down in terms of technology standpoint. I'm not sure if were going to be make leaps and bounds like we did last century. I hope we can though I'd love to be alive when Faster than light travel becomes reality.
While the Nazca lines are very interesting, I'm not sure that they are proof of alien existence. Some people are claiming that they were a runway for alien spaceships and I just don't see it. But this Nazca line in particular really gets you thinking. That might be some of the most compelling evidence that I've seen, some of it is too similar to UFO's to be a coincidence IMO. But again, there are going to be people who dismiss it as being misinterpretation of a comet or bird. Do these look like a bird to you though? It's not physical proof, but I think it definitely shows that early man was seeing some of the same things in the sky that we have been seeing, which would kind of dismiss the theory that UFO are a figment of our imagination caused by popular culture and movies like Independence Day.
I don't know, I think we are making great strides technologically and that the more we learn, the more discoveries there will be for us to unlock. Things like a car that runs on hydrogen may not be progressing as fast as we would like (that may be more political than technology) but nanotechnology and the like are just starting to take off.
Well its just hard to imagine technology make strikes like it did in the fortys or fiftys. I'm sure we will improve but I think in the next 40 years its going to hits peak unless a major break through occurs. My point about the Nazca lines is that you can only see the art from a aerial view. Now you can say well they could have made them for their Deity's which is a possibility but who is to say their gods were aliens Now I don't know a whole alot about the ancient civilizations like I want but there are very compelling evidence through out history that cannot be dismissed. Well in the show UFO files they brought up possibility's of that these depictions could be a Aerial Phenomenon and is misinterpreted. I find Roswell very fascinating not sure why they changed their story. To much secrecy in the government.
I know I'm in the minority on this subject but I don't see why people brush UFOs and aliens off like their is no way they can exist. All of the sightings throughout the years from astronauts, pilots and your average Joe seem to be overwhelming enough to confidently say their is in-fact an intelligent life form out there. The oil paintings and cave drawings is another thing IMO that proves that aliens do exist and have been visiting Earth for a number of years now. Nazca lines is another piece of evidence favoring the existence of something other then human. Like BuckeyeKing said the Roswell incident has to be one of the more interesting things out there because of how the government changed the story numerous times and another compelling piece of evidence is the UFO sighting from 20 years or so ago from guards in France or Britian. Can't remember which at the moment but they have a show with the guards accounts of what happened that night on the History Channel.
Careful, dont translate what Govt's are admittedly saying they dont understand into ET. I do believe we will eventually find other life, I think it is still a very long ways off. I DONT think it will be life any more evolved than we are...but then again. As far as ET's that have already been here, I am VERY sceptical. Perhaps that is because I used to share beer with a gentleman by the name of Bob Lazar. We used to call him Bob Bazaar. Many of you have perhaps seen him on Discovery channel? Well, I spent enough time listening to his rantings and stories that it severly callused my personal opinion.. Oh yeah, and for the record, Bob had a Trans Am that actually ran on Hydrogen..and this was back in the early 80's He also had a jet-powered Honda CVCC..funniest thing Evar
Guy souds crazy. Did you read the article when Nasa found some sort of life on MArs and said it then they changed their story saying oh we didn't find life.
there is some ethnographic and ethnohistoric evidence that Nazca lines, of different forms and shapes, were meant to be walked rather than viewed, like the old garden or church mazes in England. The experience possibly heightened while on a drug trip that plus roughly 90% of Nazca lines are straight or cones, not shapes- the biggest ones leading from one hilltop to another, or from one archaeological site to another
one should be careful of attributing certain prehistoric achievements to alien or foreigner influence. it can amount to downright racist statements (i.e. such and such people couldn't possibly do this b/c they weren't possibly advanced enough). Saying something like that is only a very small step away. Much much better evidence is needed Nazca lines, for example, take hours to make with a few people (people still make Coca-cola geoglyphs today on the side of the Panamerican for example). That prehistoric Peruvians had the technology to survey complicated terrain (let alone the Nazca plains) has been demonstrated by the mere existence of the Chicama-Moche irrigation canal in northern Peru- something that runs 70 something km between two desert valleys and complicated topography
One thing to remember in regards to NASA and Mars, is that we are here (Duh) and Mars is...well way the hell out there. No telling what they actaully came across. Could be signs of life and then again... Once again, I am completely convinced that we will find life of some sort (I am an odds type of guy, and the odds are very overwhelming). Just don't buy into the entire UFO ET Little green men from Mars. If there was a life out there with technology such that they could travel here, we would know about it as that would be MUCH to large a thing for even the most ingenious Govt to cover up. Just my opinion of course
Looks like what I would draw on the blackboard at high school before the teacher came in, except the feet should be rounder...like a pair of balls
