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Here's What's Wrong With Cutler...Give Me A Minute...Wait I Know There Has To Be Something...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rickysabeast, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Clutch was popularized by the media. It gained readers wanting to hear about magic and such. Lol

    Clutch is neither consistent or predictable. It's ill defined, unmeasurable, and hog wash. Lol
     
  2. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Why, you looking? Sorry, I'm straight. Lol
     
  3. roy_miami

    roy_miami Well-Known Member

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    I'm like Dan Marino in bed. One of the quickest releases of all time.
     
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  4. resnor

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    Yeah, coming from the players should mean something? Baseball players are some of the most superstitious people. Makes me question the idea of "clutch" even more now. Superstitious ball players attributed magical qualities to certain players.
     
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  5. resnor

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    I cannot.

    But maybe he can give you some pointers? I'm guessing you would not listen, though, since you don't like to take others opinions and research into account. LOL
     
  6. cbrad

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    Machines can, as long as the machine is working (like saying as long as the human is not injured). Try playing a chess computer. It plays at the same level every time (for a set of settings like how much time is allotted to find the best move).
     
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  7. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Haha you're right.

    Not interested in ANY pointers from DM.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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  8. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    When I played ball I was only clutch when I wore the same unwashed jock strap each game for the entire season.

    (I think the flies were a great help with my batting.) lol
     
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  9. Finster

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    It will eventually wear out Brad, and if you run it at 100% capacity, it will wear out sooner, not to mention some have more glitches than others, even from the same manufacturer.

    It's a rare thing that is made to operate at 100% capacity, 100% of the time, I don't know of anything, even the laws of nature, like gravity and light/sound/radio waves, or nature itself, stone, steel, none of these things can do that.

    Even the sun, as we know the temperature fluctuates, we can even see "cold spots" on the sun through a telescope.

    If there is anything that is made to run at 100% capacity 100% of the time, it is truly rare, and therefor an exception that proves the rule.

    What we do know, beyond any question, is that there is no animal life that is designed to do so, which includes us, no one can operate at 100%, 100% of the time, that is magic beyond Harry Potter and beyond even the great JRR Tolkien's imaginings, lol.
     
  10. cbrad

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    I don't think you understand what "laws of nature" mean. There is really no meaning to the phrase "operate at 100% capacity" when referring to the laws of nature. Either those laws are accurate or inaccurate.

    But interpreting what you said, it's 100% wrong. Laws of nature (at least the ones we have no evidence are inaccurate) work 100% of the time. For example, the equation that governs gravitational strength "works" every time. The "gravitational constant" G in both Newton's and Einstein's theory of gravity is thought to be "fundamental" in that there has never been a recorded instance of it changing, up to the uncertainty inherent in the measuring device.

    Speed of light in a vacuum (denoted c in physics) is also known to be a constant and "works" all the time. Same with Plank's constant in quantum mechanics that specifies the maximum level of precision you can have in an experiment that tries to measure what are called "conjugate variables", examples of which are position and momentum, or time and energy, etc...

    Anyway, point is the "laws of nature" are supposed to be constant and never change. For a select few cases it seems like we've found some that really do never change (e.g. conservation of energy). Otherwise, almost all proposed "laws of nature" work most of the time with exceptions.

    In any case.. you're going quite far afield from the obvious: there is no analog to motivation or arousal in machines unless you explicitly program them to behave like humans (which is more difficult than getting them to perform at the same level all the time.. until they need repair of course).
     
  11. Finster

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    Distance, atmospheric conditions, geological formations etc, defeats light, sound and radio waves, not to mention, they are only as strong as the energy used to produce them, so all you can say, is that they may work at 100% capacity, given the conditions.

    What is 100% capacity for light? How far does a 2 D battery flashlight shine? As far as a 4 D flashlight? How far away does a star have to be before we can't see it?

    Same for gravity, I know the formula works, but that is to determine what the gravity is in that particular condition, but astronauts defeat gravity in their plane, it's only for a short time, but it's still there.

    What is the 100% capacity of gravity? It's not here on earth Brad, because of our gravitational pull, there are other planets that have more gravitational pull, hence gravity cannot reach it's full potential here.

    As far as going far afield, it was you Brad that said machines work at 100% capacity 100% of the time, I just pointed out that wasn't true.
     
  12. cbrad

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    Yeah.. like I said before, there's some kind of fundamental lack of understanding on your part here. It's really meaningless to ask things like "What is 100% capacity for light?", or "What is 100% capacity for gravity?". Can't ask a question that doesn't have a meaning.

    Also, astronauts do not defeat gravity. Gravity is still there. What you're trying to say is that they don't feel the force of gravity. Doesn't mean gravity isn't there nor does it mean the theory of gravity is wrong.

    No, I said they CAN work at the same level all the time, until they need repair, which is a 100% true statement. And I gave an example of that with chess programs. No human performs that way, even if you restrict it to the time it takes till the human "needs repair".
     
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  13. jdang307

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    Thread about Cutler ends a lot quicker then debates about Tanny. We're already onto clutching, spooning, and cosmological constants.
     
  14. Bpk

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    Zero Games Played As A Dolphin

    There is a direct correlation between games played as a Dolphin (GPAAD) and number of threads and posts about a player (NOTAPAAP).

    The ZGPAAD is causing the low NOTAPAAP for the time being.

    You can share that on the internet with everyone, just credit me. Thanks
     
  15. cuchulainn

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    Sounds like a typical Sat night for Fin-O and his Mike Wallace blow up doll. :shifty:
     
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  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Basically if you like a player better than another player or dislike a player and you do not have a good reason you use terms like, "clutch", "it", "X-Factor" and all of the other magic terms.
     
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  17. Fin-O

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    You know what he loves about me?

    I can always, and I mean ALWAYS....hit him deep.
     
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  18. Finster

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    These are simple questions that you just don't know the answer to, what is the maximum capacity for light? easy, the brightest thing in the universe, there is something, that is the brightest thing, super nova? that is the maximum capacity for light.

    The maximum capacity for gravity is a black hole, as far as we know at any rate, but it's where the most gravitational pull is, lol, this is simple stuff.

    As I pointed out earlier, the formula for gravity doesn't give it max capacity, it actually tells you how much EFFECT gravity has there, because other conditions EFFECT gravity.

    As I also pointed out earlier, all these things are limited by their energy source, a flashlight produces a weak source of light, that is not the max capacity of light, that is the capacity of the batteries and the components it's made of, yet light is being produced, at a very low capacity.

    100%, 100% of the time was the stipulation, no exceptions for malfunctions, repairs and maintenance, we're all aware that computers normally function at a high level.
     
  19. jdang307

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    Except Ted Ginn who was roasted before any games played. Because he brought his family.
     
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  20. jdang307

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    I can't stand Flacco and the mouth breathing Manning. But ...
     
  21. cbrad

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    Finster, you can't just put any two words together and assume the combination has meaning. There is no meaning to the phrase "capacity of gravity" or "capacity of light" (and to be clear, I mean there is no meaning to saying that light itself has the "capacity".. of course a material could have a "capacity" to transmit light, etc..). And what's really bad is that you seem to be unwilling to learn this.

    Anyway, you're asking whether there is a maximum possible value for the energy per photon, total number of photons (intensity of light) or gravitational strength. And of course we don't know. The limiting factor is the energy available, or in the case of gravity the "rest energy" = mass available. And since we don't know whether the universe is finite or infinite we don't know if there's a limit to total energy available.

    Either way, in nature there are some things that are constant as far as we know (true 100% of the time with no exceptions).
     
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  22. Bpk

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    That was because Cam Cam had a very rare gift for PR



    He definitely nailed the failing part.
     
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  23. Finster

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    In the context of this discussion, 100% capacity is maximum output, so the question, "what is the maximum capacity of light", is quite a legit question, as capacity is a synonym for output, so it's the same as "how bright can light get".

    I understand words just fine Brad, you are constricting the word to a single definition, remember that the context of 100% capacity in this discussion is that clutch is just a player working at 100% capacity, and if he's playing not as well in the regular season, it's because he was playing at less than 100% capacity.

    That is one of the arguments in this thread, one in which I was replying to, so staying within the confines of that should be fairly obvious I would think.

    This wasn't about constant truths though, this was 100% capacity, 100% of the time, and I'll say it again, nothing is 100% capacity, 100% of the time, even machines.
     
  24. cbrad

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    Sorry it has no meaning, not in this context nor any other.

    Also, "brightness" is a perception and not a physical quantity so you're not even using that word correctly. The physical quantity you're probably looking for is luminance which measures intensity of light = number of photons.
     
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  25. Fin D

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    The hatred of the "fail forward fast" mantra is overblown and ridiculous. it is a fairly common concept.

    Everyone fails, so you might as well get it out of the way and move on. I mean, it is no different than saying learn from your mistakes and learn from them quickly.
     
  26. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Cam Cameron was also set up to fail. They brought in a defensive coordinator to run Saban's defense like Saban and then he does not do that.

    Plus a lot of injuries and bad luck.

    I am not a fan of Cam, however, he feels like a bump the road. The time I ate a terrible dinner, while is like the meal that gave you so much food poisoning it ruined Chinese for me, forever.
     
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  27. Fin D

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    Oh yeah, he was terrible, but I just think the hate of that and the Ginn thing are terribly, terribly overblown. And you're right, he never had a fair shot (he still would have failed) but he was doomed form the get go.
     
  28. Bpk

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    Other than the obsessive focus on it. Like making it the primary and reinforced message and paradigm.

    IMO he was scared of failing. For good reason.
     
  29. Fin D

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    That doesn't make sense. Your 2 sentences literally contradict each other.
     
  30. Bpk

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    Makes perfect sense to me though. He obsessed about failing because he DID fear it and that's a bad thing, not a good thing. He rationalized a nice way to frame it, hijacked a good concept (I agree that well applied, reducing fear of failure is tremendously useful) and over-applied it.
     
  31. Fin D

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    Yeah....makes no sense.

    The concept itself doesn't imply a fear of failing, on the contrary it embraces it and understands we all fail. You're kind of inventing this notion based on literally nothing, WADR.
     
  32. Bpk

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    Nope. But this argument will not be worth the time, so get on wit ya bad self.

    It' not like I'll say something and you'll be like "Oh yeah, now I see what you mean."
     
  33. danmarino

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    I've been laughing my *** off at your posts. And seriously, no offense. You remind me of my 6 year old trying to explain, what is to her, complex things to my 4 year old.

    Basically, she just makes stuff up as she goes along because she doesn't know the answer either.
     
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  34. Fin D

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    Could I change your mind?
     
  35. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    He is so afraid of failure that he constantly works at failure? So Indiana Jones jumped in that snake pit on purpose because he was so afraid of snakes?

    I do not say this often, but I am on Fin D with this. What?
     
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  36. Fin D

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    I know that hurt.

    The bad news? It keeps happening once you break the seal.

    Sorry.
     
  37. Serpico Jones

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    Cam Cameron drafted John "Fruit Loops" Beck in the second round, that decision ended his head coaching career. Also, he traded for Trent "Scrambled Eggs" Green, let's not forget that masterpiece of a trade. He should thank Drew Brees every day for all the money he's made in his career.
     
  38. Serpico Jones

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    There are pills for that...
     
  39. Finster

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    Semantics.
     
  40. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    Well, you and Brad are wrong, he just can never admit when he's wrong, and your just stupid, lol.
     

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