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Ryans knee is ok

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dirtylandry, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Per nfl network


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  2. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Sigh of relief.
     
  3. DolPhinPhan7

    DolPhinPhan7 Well-Known Member

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    We needed a new thread :huh:
     
  4. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    Thank the football gods.
     
  5. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    He is made of steel


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  6. Rickysabeast

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  7. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    We're gonna be leaning on the run game like crazy the first month.
     
  8. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Cancel the trade for Bridgewater?????

    Too soon? :)
     
  9. KeyFin

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    Bridgewater? We want Henne! LOL!

    So glad that RT is okay. Hopefully he sits a good part of this preseason to get back to 100% as cautiously as possible....which I'm sure Gase will insist on. Best non-story of the month!
     
  10. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The knee bucked without any contact.

    That's the most concerning.
     
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  11. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Hyper extended apparently. Tweets in the Training Camp thread. Just don't have the time to post them all twice.
     
  12. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    It didn't buckle and many knee injuries happen this way.
     
  13. Bpk

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    If by "ok" you mean it was exactly the same knee that gave out underneath him today as he ran untouched, then sure... it's 'ok'.

    I wouldn't buy a car that was "ok" like that.
     
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  14. Killer Bees

    Killer Bees Bringin' the Ruckus

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    It's unfortunate but that's how the majority of these injuries happen. Post ACL surgery or in his case rehab, you're not really worried about hurting it via tackles or what not but either running and planting or cutting. The stability of the ligaments supporting it is concerning being they didn't opt for off season surgery so we'll see.
     
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  15. Bpk

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    To be clear, I am glad his knee didn;t get WORSE today... but it is clearly not already ok.

    WISHING he had nothing wrong with his knee should not blind us to the fact that his leg gave out on him today under circumstances that a healthy knee does not have any trouble handling.
     
  16. NCPhinFan

    NCPhinFan Active Member

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    What if he just stepped on a bad patch of field?
     
  17. Csonka Marino

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    It seems like he slipped like on a baseball field. The video of him walking is good, but this almost happened.

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  18. brandon27

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    It's really not. There's a report out there that it's inconclusive. Shows no new damage, but something is wrong that they are concerned about that's not related to the original injury. I mean, if it was, they'd know by now there is further damage to the ACL. The fact they're not saying that to me, says its not a re-tear of the ACL in the same area. I'm not a doctor.... but neither are those of you in other threads saying... see! this is why he should have had it last year! All accounts so far, are that they're unrelated. Just happens to be the same knee from everything I'm reading.
     
  19. KeyFin

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    The video showing the fall goes grainy and distorted right as he falls, so we really don't know what happened. I think it's a jump to say that he's not okay though since he's walking around fine. A clump of wet grass could just as easily be the culprit as his repaired knee doing something it shouldn't- it's senseless to guess and/or assume the worst case scenario.

    He's been running all-out on it this week without any issue, so I think that's as good of an indicator as any that his knee was healthy before the slip today. There's no way Gase would have him out there if that wasn't the case.
     
  20. NCPhinFan

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    I will say that if RT ends up not being able to play on that knee, then nobody would be able to. Dude has been an absolute warrior for us.
     
  21. Serpico Jones

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    The Miami Herald and ESPN are disputing this report.
     
  22. Bpk

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    Seems like he COULD play, but he'd be at higher risk of injury if it's as unstable as it seems.

    But hey, I am not a doctor.
     
  23. Vertical Limit

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    And lets say he returns, the dolphins are going to limit him to staying in the pocket, not use his legs. Theyre not going to take a chance on his mobility after this injury.. when you keep tannehill in the pocket he becomes average
     
  24. jdang307

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    Those many injuries already had a brace on The knee to stabilize it?

    By the way you say it didn't buckle? The only video I saw was not very clear. What happened to then? Why did he go to the ground if it did not buckle
     
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  25. Bpk

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    He likes to roll around, clutching his knee.

    And the Dolphins aren't very busy, so they like to run pointless MRI's on the same knee that a player injured, even though there is no real reason.
     
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  26. Bpk

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    Reading up a bit and it seems that something like this takes the place aroud the site of the tear...

    Tannehill, btw, did stem cell for the ACL.

    Also this...

    And...

    http://journalofprolotherapy.com/li...ing-an-overview-of-current-clinical-concepts/
     
  27. Bpk

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    I think this is what's happening on these boards today...
    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe
     
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  28. danmarino

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    Yes.

    In fact, most studies are inconclusive in regards as to whether or not bracing helps prevent further injuries. And in fact, a few studies show that bracing may cause further injury.

    "Buckling", in most people's minds, means to crumple, tear, break, rip, and/or give out. His knee did none of this. He hyperextended his knee and felt pain. So yes, he fell, but not because his knee buckled. If someone punched you in the face and you fell would you claim your knee buckled? No? Then why did you fall? Lol... If his knee "buckled" he would have suffered catastrophic injuries to one or more structures of the knee. The MRI didn't show this.
     
  29. danmarino

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    He's coming off of an injury and is sensitive to any weird feeling/pain in his injured knee. My bet is he's probably hyperextended his knee more than once during his career and didn't act this way before.
     
  30. Bpk

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    Hope you don't bet much.
     
  31. danmarino

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    Have you never hyperextended your knee? I have a few times and I don't play in the NFL. I can almost guarantee you that he's done the same thing during his high school/college/NFL career.

    It's a weird feeling, never once did I go to the ground. I immediately lifted my foot off of the ground and limped around for a few steps. On one occasion my knee was sore for a few days, but I hadn't torn an ACL so I took it as a little bit of weird pain.
     
  32. Bpk

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    Fine. It has nothing physically to do with him already having injured that knee. Your evidence is irresistibly compelling.
     
  33. danmarino

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    My bet is it was more mental. Of course he felt pain. Maybe similar pain as to when he tore his ACL. However, his knee did not buckle. He went down, IMO, due to fear more than necessity.
     
  34. danmarino

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    Also, let me add, when I first saw the video I thought for sure he was done. And it had nothing to do with his previous injury.
     
  35. Dolphan24

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  36. Colmax

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    Can we please merge?
     
  37. Dorfdad

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    I'm going to put this as plainly as I can. IMHO Ryan Isn't going to be starting quarterback for the Dolphins for much longer. I think we need to seriously look at his successor soon rather than later.

    He wasn't an all star before now a brace and now more issues with that knee. Will he recover physically maybe but I'm more worried about his mentality he's going to be cautious and throw picks when rushed

    Hope he proves me wrong!
     
  38. Bpk

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  39. xer0

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    Its sad...it sucks...but it is the right call.
     

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