Do we have the 2013 pieces of the Broncos Offense?

I for one, dont think these are conservative at all. 30 ppg is pie in the sky.

 

I for one am not worried about the offense. A small improvement will be enough to improve our record. The defensive plays allowed is the big concern. Wevwere giving too many teams too many opportunities at 3rd and short. Fix that (Timmons and McMillan working out) and that's 80% of the way to making the phins a good team. The other 20% is health/quality backups.

The offense will look after itself if the D gets itself off the field, rather than relying on the O to help it out by continually making long sustained drives.

 

To detract from the current argument, San Diego (*ahem*, Los Angeles) just released Orlando Franklin. Franklin worked with Adam Gase in Denver during their Super Bowl run. Perhaps he could be a target for training camp--he would certainly shore up an unsteady interior offensive line.

And then we would, quite literally, have another piece of the 2013 Broncos offense. Eh?

 

Every May/June/July we are told all kinds of positive things by the team. What are they going to say that is negative? Not saying we aren't going to have a great year but you;re saying you see us adding 8.3 pts per game each and every game over last year? I'd freaking love that but I don't see us being THAT better. Hope I'm wrong as we were very squeaky with our wins last year pulling it out in the last minute. I just don't see us being that dominant on offense but again would absolutely love to be proved wrong.

 

By your standard of 30ppg the Patriots should have replaced Tom Brady. He only got them 27.5.

Look, I think we all want to see a dominant offense that can score at will. I think we have personnel in place and coaching that could put up alot more points than we had last year. However, what we need is an average in the 25-27 ppg range ( which is far more attainable ) and a defense that gives up less than 20ppg. That is what will win games for us. It has to be both sides of the ball.

 

I would love nothing more than to have a few games where they just blow teams out! Would be awesome to watch the Phins hang 40+ on someone! Here's to Hoping!

 

LOL!

 

Well we are playing the Chargers who we either blow out or get close to each time lol. AND there's 2 Jets games and 2 Bills games..... So there are 5 wins right there!

 

You don't really know for sure how good a team is going to be until around the 4th week so it's hard to say how tough our schedule really will be. Historically speaking though that does look to be a tough stretch. But hey! We swept the Bills last year and we normally manage a split with the Pats. Last time we played Denver, we had them down in their place. KC we always seem to have a good game against.

Never know!

 

I hear and feel your frustration bro. The teams you listed don't have to have this conversation for a reason; they've already demonstrated that they consistently have strong offenses. We haven't cracked the top ten in well, as far back as I can remember since Dan retired. I sooooooo want us to be one of those great offenses again. However, it hasn't happened while each offseason we have opined how it should be possible and this year we'll finally be an offensive powerhouse.

 

We only cracked the top 10 once since Marino retired.. in 2001 with Fiedler of all QB's lol (we were ranked #8 in points scored that year).

I think the real issue is we have trouble being ranked high in BOTH offense and defense at the same time. The correlation between (adjusted based on total number of games in the season) rank for offense and defense throughout Dolphins history is a paltry 0.1394 (generally anything below 0.2 is really weak correlation).

Really.. the only times we were good on both sides of the ball were during the early 70's when we won the SB's and twice with Marino ('84-'87) and ('91-'95).

 

You mean the 2000 Ravens. It was 33:19, second in the league. Again.. a few minutes might not seem like a lot in a single game but average a few minutes extra over 16 games .. that's a lot.

Most impressive stat: they allowed only 10.3 ppg!!

 

Their offense wasn't that good. Only scored 20.8 ppg and was ranked 14th, so while I'm sure that fantastic defense helped the offense, it didn't make it into a scoring machine.

On the other hand, if you allow only 10.3 ppg you can win with a backup QB. That was a historic defense though..

 

If the offense manages 24-25 pts per game, I'll be okay with that. I'd be thrilled if they got up to a 27 pts per game average. If they manage 30+ per game? Sure sign the End Times are upon us.

Of course, we need the defense to improve by forcing another FG per game instead of allowing the TD. So, a 7pt difference per game should be enough to get us back to 10-6, even with the tougher schedule.

 

Actually I posted the numbers on another thread. Being great or one side of the ball doesn'thelp the other side of the ball be more efficient.

Maybe it is the negative effect of the salary cap (the majority of the cap goes to the great side) cancelling out the gains given by a great unit.

 

One thing about the 30 PPG average- you have to remember that it's an actual average. That means you score 18 on the Pats and put up 42 against a horrible D like Cleveland or Tampa. So in an average year, I think a potent offense should have a shot of achieving that mark.

However, when you look at our schedule....we don't face a lot of weak defenses this season. Everyone's good on D in the AFC East (except maybe us). The Broncos, Raiders and Chiefs are no slouches. The Titans, Falcons and Ravens are solid. That's 12 tough challenges alone. Then for the "weaker" defenses, you have the Bucs, Saints, Chargers and Panthers? It's going to be a tough year for points unless our offense takes a big step forward.

And on paper, sure, we should be one of the best. Parker should be healthy. Landry should play even harder. Pouncey should be past the hip problem. Stills should match last season. But that's a lot of if's and maybes...we just don't know what's going to happen until it happens. I'm sure we will have things click and dominate a few teams this year, but I'm also sure there will be other games where we completely choke. That's life in the NFL.

So getting back to the original question- can we drop 30 PPG? In theory, yes. But it's pretty darn unlikely. As others have said, the key is the defense getting off the field and giving our offense more reps. If that doesn't happen, then 30 is almost impossible.

 

bills defense doesn't look that strong..they lost few good players.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if both the Bills and Jets have poor defenses next season. I do not buy any of the moves.