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What is being done to keep us healthier this year?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rickysabeast, Mar 22, 2017.

  1. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    Last year the injuries were ridiculous. The coaching staff did a great job of inserting solid replacements but by the end of the year we were simply decimated by injuries. I understand the vicious nature of football. However, we really need to do something with our trainers and game preparation to limit the injuries. I think we can all agree that had we not gone into the playoffs so injury depleted we could have won against the Steelers.

    I keep hearing that our sport science department is on the leading edge. However it doesn't seem to translate to our players staying healthy. I hope some of the more enlightened on here can share what is being done to keep our players injury free and when there's an injury to recover faster.

    Something from a trainer standpoint needs to change big time!
     
  2. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    I could be wrong but I think our new sports science department has only been in place since last season? I don't think that's not enough time to gauge wether its effective or not.

    Either way there is only so much you can do to prevent injures when bodies are colliding at high velocities injuries are bound to happen.

    However I think what we can do is try to target players that have proven themselves durable and don't have a history of serious injury. Some guys are just more fragile and susceptible to injury than others. For example Devante Parker had an injury history since college and we still drafted him it should be no surprise that he has been constantly injured for us.

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  3. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Oh the drama...

    When he was drafted he was coming off of a foot injury that was surgically repaired. The screw that was placed shifted and he had to have that repaired during his rookie offseason. I'm assuming that you consider a poorly placed piece of hardware placed by a surgeon as him be "susceptible to injury"?

    He's had a pulled hamstring and a strained back. Is that what you call "constantly injured"?

    Since the final 6 games of 2015 he hasn't missed one game due to injury. He did, however, leave a game early last season because he strained his back.
     
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  4. Rickysabeast

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    This will be the Sports Science's fourth year. http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/a...olphins-/1a640c76-d183-4aef-a9c4-13e93ce01a82

    I've never seen the team as crippled by injury as it was last year. We're going the wrong direction. Sure, luck is a HUGE factor as is the player's propensity for injury. Injuries will always happen. My point is last year we were a MASH unit and it cost us a coupe wins including going deeper into the playoffs. Whats being done behind the scenes and in medical personnel and training to make this year better from a health and recovery standpoint?

    Tell me we wouldn't have won a couple more games had we still had T-hill, Maxwell, Jones and Pouncey. The bigger issue is that when the players got injured, they couldn't recover from the injuries in the same season. To me that's all about trainers and medical. Otherwise, why have them? Just play the players until they are hurt and then plug in the backup for the rest of the season. That's what they did in the 70's and that's what we were doing last year. To me a sports science department that cost a quintillion dollars should max performance and keep your players free from injury and when injured, expedite recovery time. Otherwise just send me the quintillion dollars and I can just wrap ace bandages on players and tell them see ya next year!
     
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  5. hitman8

    hitman8 Well-Known Member

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    Jesus you never stop. What drama? The foot injury was there before we drafted him and one of the knocks on him coming into the draft was that he was an injury concern. We drafted him anyway. His first season he missed a lot of games because of that same foot, and last year even if he didn't miss a lot of games he was playing injured and inneffective for more than half the games he played in because of his hamstrings. He could never get healthy until the end of the season and as soon as his hamstrings finally got healthy, then he strained his back. He has been constantly hampered by injuries since we drafted him again please stop trying to cover **** up.

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  6. Rickysabeast

    Rickysabeast Royale With Cheese

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    Look Parker's just a pu#@y. Gase is fixing him. His capable candy *** isn't what I was writing about. Just off the top of my head we had Maxwell, Jones, Punchy, Albert, Isa-Quddus, Misi and T-hill get mega injured last year. In most cases they went out and for the most part never returned in the season. Worst injury year I remember in 37 years of being a Phins fan. Whats being done to mitigate the injuries and expedite recovery?
     
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  7. cbrad

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    There are two things to note with injuries:

    1) injuries league-wide have been steadily increasing over the years (check out figure 5):
    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/nfl-injuries-part-ii-variation-over-time

    2) injury risk is by far the highest in week 1 (figure 4 in the link above).

    Point #1 suggests it has something to do with NFL rules or how they're enforced, and point #2 suggests the most important rules might be those stipulating how players are allowed to practice (e.g. the new CBA reduced the amount of practice time). So I doubt sports science will have much effect (especially if you're trying to get similar results from stuff used in soccer!) because it seems like the NFL itself is the primary culprit.
     
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  8. Rickysabeast

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    That data ends in 2014 which is when two a days were outlawed I believe. If all the players practice the same amount (which is NFLPA regulated) then wouldn't over time, all teams on average see the same injury percentage?

    So, in that scenario it was just our year in the outhouse from an injury standpoint?
     
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  9. gilv13

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    Its football. Injuries happen.
     
  10. cbrad

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    This link suggests we were slightly on the lower end of injuries in 2016, at least as of week 12 (we had 7 wins so we're with Seattle there.. have to register for that mangames site so it's better to just link to a post that has the graph):
    http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/190278-2016-nfl-man-games-lost-due-to-injury/

    In other words, it's not like the Dolphins had an abnormal number of injuries as measured by total games missed.
     
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  11. Finster

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    Imo the thing they have to avoid, is signing injury prone players thinking the sports science will keep them on the field, last year Gase was asked about all the injury prone players and he responded with the sports science stuff.

    Sports science cannot make a players muscles, tendons and bones something that they aren't, and everybody is different, and that's real science, so just avoid injury prone players.
     
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  12. Unlucky 13

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    The team had a really rough year with the number of injuries to key players. I think we can all agree on that. It seems like we had more than we usually do, and more than the league average. I honestly don't know what can be done about that other than to try and bring new players in who have a history of being durable, but even that isn't a guarantee.

    All told, our starting OL missed 16 games, the equivilant of a whole season from one player. That was crippling at times. Hopefully, Pouncey can play a lot more this year. No one would be surprised if he misses time with his injuries though, in particular his hip. There's a fair chance that 2017 will be his final year with the team.
     
  13. dirtylandry

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    We need God to be on our side, esp for Pouncey. But my solution is quality depth.


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    Look at the body, frame and joints closer when thinking about drafting and acquiring players..but you can only go so far..
     
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    Even then I seem to remember he went up high for a ball and had his feet knocked out from under him causing him to hit the ground hard.
     
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  18. PhinishLine

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    It depends on the injuries. Sports Science is likely going to reap benefits more in the soft tissue injury department. Sports Science isn't going to make bones stronger or knee ligaments able to withstand a 1000 lbs of pressure. Most of our injuries were of the later variety:

    Tannehill: Ligament sprain and honestly it should have been worse
    Jones: Rotator Cuff
    Pouncey: Hip
    IAQ: Neck

    These aren't groins, hammies, and cramping.

    Also from 2013 to 2015, Miami has the least amount of concussions in the league. So, it's working, but it's not a silver bullet to injury I don't think.
     
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  19. danmarino

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    Yep, I remember that too.

    Parkers problem, or so it seems, is immaturity. Hopefully Gase can turn him around the way he turned Ajayi around.
     

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