Glad moves are already being considered. Miami doesn't 'NEED' anyone with the #1 overall pick. If miami could trade down in the top ten, we might end up with the guy we need most AND another first day pick.
Antone who has the first pick wants to trade: you are a bad team and have multiple holes, hence wanting more picks from a trade down scenario. But thanks to the PBP for that breaking news. If he didn't I'd fire him on the spot.
I like it , but we need a plan. We have to sell the pick and I hope that is where BC comes in and does his job. We need to tell the world that we want a player at the #1 spot, but would consider dropping down if the price is right. If there is no fair trade, and that may well happen, or one that is not in our favour, then threaten too, and even pick who we would have at the #1 pick, and thus knacker up everybody else's draft. That would send out the right message that we aren't a soft touch anymore, if nothing else, and that we are only willing to trade if it suits us, not other teams. After all, in the draft, we are in the driving seat, no one else. I think for too long that we were not used to being in this position, and that is half the reason for us not being good at it (drafting).
Someone wants to trade out of the number one overall pick? No kidding. We don't have the leverage. Everyone knows we won't take McFadden. They would rather deal with number 2.
Then you make em believe you will take him. Start spreading rumours that you will trade Ronnie to get him, do anything in your power to get him. Even pick McFadden if it means so much to others. We get the first pick, and we have to be assertive in what we do, even to the point we dont know what we are doing ourselves. If it were me I wouldn't even let on if we wanted to even keep Ronnie
This is what he answered when asked about the Draft and the Number 1 pick: "Any team that has won one game, or hopefully two games this year, needs a volume of players," Parcells said. "But getting someone to be interested in that No. 1 pick is not as simple as just saying, 'OK, we're going to trade the pick.' "First, you need to have someone who wants it ... I would consider anything." " If you make a pick at that spot and you're wrong, it's economically a very bad thing for quite a while," Parcells said.
You people kinda live in your own little world. Lets read further into it: "Parcells has had the No. 1 pick on two other occasions. While head coach of New England, he helped select quarterback Drew Bledsoe with the top pick in 1993. Four seasons later, Bledsoe led the Patriots to the Super Bowl. In 1997 with the New York Jets, Parcells traded down twice to No. 8. He selected linebacker James Farrior and also picked up several more picks. But Farrior didn't reach his potential until he went to Pittsburgh in 2003. Most of the Jets' other selections that came from the trades didn't pan out, either." Now, what makes trading the pick a good move? Sure things could turn out different if Miami trades the pick but I would say chances are better thee results turn out much the same. The guy with the higher potential will be the #1 guy and 10th in the first and over your chances of failing naturally multiplies. Yeah I'm all about getting a bunch of great players on the team but I don't want to gamble with the sure thing we have in hand.
I see where you are coming from shag, but getting away from Parcells record in the draft, where do people like Clayton and Jensen come from. A lot of it is luck! You may well end up with a gem at the #15 pick at a lot less cost than a bust at the #3 pick in the draft. One may become a starter that year but not progress, another may not pan out for a few years but become huge player later in his career. How do you evaluate that. The player that lasts longer may well be the better player, but would/could be more injury prone (chances are the longer he plays the more injury prone he becomes, and if he is, then it could become more frequent) i know a lot of that is apparent before the draft,but isn't that why it becomes a bit of a lottery, and also a game of chance. Surely a team that takes someone in the 5th round and is injury free and fits a system, is going to be more important than a 1st rounder that is injury prone and doesn't fit a teams needs. Isn't that where the draft anoraks come into their own
bill knows what he is doing bill is going to change the way the phins do the draft, thats what has killed us in the past couple of seasons, having poor drafts, bill is going to shake it up and is going to start the foundation for winning, he is not into the whole #1 pick hype and all that, he is about getting the best player he can while getting the most picks that he can
Why wont we? Never assume my friend. No one thought we were going to take a punt returner at 9 last yr...
I hope Bill changes our whole system....new scouts,new medical staff,a more football way of doing things.
I sure hope he puts the quick fix on our scouting dept. It sure seem to me that other than last year we have done a pitiful job of drafting. I know that we had a couple of GM/ coaches that wouldn't listen to any one, but I for one am very leary of the scouting dept. How on earth could they be so wrong so often!
Ya know your correct, all the talk about trading the first round pick just hurts the fins chances, maybe not much but it does. I still think in the end we will draft McFadden because as much as people cry defense, our defense is still better than our offense.
I hope we trade down. If we can trade down and acquire a starter and another day 1 pick, I think it would be safe to use our first rounder on a QB (finally). Gettting a QB in the first potentially does 3 things for this franchise: 1) Gives us a QB if Beck/Lemon do not succeed. 2) Lights a fire under Beck/Lemon to make them perform better since they know there is a first round QB breathing down their necks. 3) If John Beck does succeed by the time his contract is up and we have a decision whether to pay him or not, we'll have a QB waiting behind him who will be old enough and mature enough to play. Especially since Beck will be around 30 when his contract is up and we won't be forced to pay him.
A couple of things..... Chris Grier, the Dolphins' director of college scouting the past eight seasons, worked for Parcells with the Patriots for three seasons (1994-96). Grier's father, Bobby, is the former vice president of player personnel in New England and a friend of Parcells'. The above is an excerpt from the Palm Beach Post article cited by the thread starter. Most likely the College Scouting Dept will maintain the status quo. Also I wanted to point out that having poor drafts isn't necessarily the fault of the scouting dept. There's an old saying " you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink".
It's good Parcells is thinking about it but whether he's able to trade down yet yieldi fair value is a different thing.
Miami is on the clock… There are things that can happen on draft day very quickly as the phone lines burn up between all the war rooms. Miami is in the very best position and has the luxury of time right now. Every other team has to make their moves in frantic light speed once the draft starts. You see where they desperately throw in another pick at the last minute to close the deal where they might not have done that with more time to really think about it. I expect Parcels to hype Darren McFadden and a couple of other guys, trade down TWICE and pick up picks. There are teams that will covet any one of five players at the top. The key is trading down with the next highest ranked team so they get the player they want, and we acquire more picks. There are always teams willing to jump a couple of spots to get the guy they really want.
Are the Dallas/McFadden rumors still doing the rounds regarding a trade? I read that the owner Jones is huge fan of McFadden and watched or had watched him regularly. With Parcells coming to Miami does anyone think it may effect any sort of trade?
If we do pick first instead of trading down then I hope they get him signed on or before draft day. I want him in camp A.S.A.P.
im sure it would happen. guys like long and dorsey seem like they have their head on straight and wouldnt want to cause problems.
It's one thing to want to trade out of the top spot, it's an entirely diiferent thing to be able to. I will very surprised and happy if Parcells is able to find a trade partner. We need some team with extra picks in their back pocket to absolutely fall in love with someone at the Senior Bowl or Combine. It's possible, but not likely.
There isn't any draft picks that are a sure thing. There may be a better chance for success but there have been number #1 picks that didn't pan out. The Dolphins certainly have had their share of first round busts, but thats the chances you take. If Miami trades down at least you will end up with more picks and that will increase your chances of getting a good player. Not only that but the cap savings will sure help in the long run.
