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Gase on why team is winning

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Just like with Wilson when he had Lynch?
     
  2. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    is that worth 20 million a season?
     
  3. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    almost every thread does :tantrum:

    I agree with this post nearly 100%. I place Ryan in the same bucket as an Alex Smith. He can't do it alone or inspire his team to do it, but if someone else can inspire the team (Landry, Ajayi), he can not mess it up.
     
  4. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Like that third down where he broke the pocket and hit Landry for a 14 yard gain?
     
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  5. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    The knockout blow to Stills?
     
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  6. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    I think the jets game will prove you wrong. I think the jets defense will contain ajayi and the burden of moving the offense will shift to tannehill. I expect a 300 yd game out of tanny and a victory....why because he has an online and that's all he needs
     
  7. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    1. O-Line
    2. Ajayi
    3. Tannehill

    I don't even know how it's disputable at this point. Again, some of us have been *****ing forever that trying to turn Tanny into Aaron Rodgers was lunacy. He badly needed his attempts scaled back and an offense where the pass feeds off the run game.

    Hell Gase even took away the hurry up offense from Tanny (shades of not allowing audibles). Let's face it - Tanny needs things simplified. If we're going to insist on trying to win with him, then the blueprint is in the last two games.
     
  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Why don't you go back and see what gase said about abandoning the hurry up. It wasn't tannehill it was the rest of the team. Players weren't lining up right, they were missing their assignments. I'm sure tanny made some mistakes as well but gase was saying the reason they abandoned it was the skill position weren't grasping without calling them out by name. And you can even see it the first five weeks. How many times did tannehill set the offense on the line and then have to move receivers and running backs into correct position before they could snap the ball. Just another invented slight on tannehill
     
  9. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I predict the excuse will be that Gase was just saying that to protect Thill's fragile ego. Then when Gase says something critical of Thill, they'll respect and tout the fact he tells it like it is. Essentially making my list of hypocrisies from their side one longer.
     
  10. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I was only going off an ESPN radio interview I had heard earlier in the week. If it's wrong, it's wrong .......... but changes nothing about a more simplified offense and one where his passing feeds off the run game.

    He's never going to be the guy carrying this team with 35-40 attempts/game. EVER.
     
  11. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    "Tannehill needs a simple offense, it's why Gase stopped the hurry up."

    "Actually, you're wrong, the hurry up was stopped because players other than Tannehill couldn't figure out how to get in position."

    "Yeah, doesn't matter, Tannehill still needs a simple offense."

    The logic around here is astounding.
     
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  12. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    a "MORE SIMPLIFIED" offense. NOT simple.

    That means putting less pressure on Tannehill to be "The Guy" because after almost 5 years we already know it's unlikely. I know that aspect of it chaps your *** though ..... especially because another Dolphins player has totally ripped the spotlight from him to the tune of 418 yards and 3 TD's over these last two game. I for one am ecstatic about it - been begging for this squad to commit to the run. It's clear Tanny feeds off it.

    Comments to marginalize Ajayi surely to follow.
     
  13. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Hilarious.

    When shown to be a hypocrite, change the argument, and make different outrageous claim.

    Get it through your head, I'm not a Tannehill fan, I'm a Miami Dolphins fan. The single reason I argue about Tannehill is because of the ridiculous statements and unfounded criticisms of him. I've never argued Tannehill is the greatest in the league, I've never argued that he didn't have flaws. I've argued that worse players around him make his flaws seem much bigger than they are.
     
  14. thisperishedmin

    thisperishedmin Well-Known Member

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    If this is true...is that really so bad? Look at the last few super bowl winners and teams making late playoff runs the last few years...

    Give me a decent QB, good running attack, and stout defense vs a team with a QB forcefully dragging it to success all day every day.

    Beyond that - I'm staying out of the Tannehill debate...
     
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  15. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I don't think it's bad at all, particularly if Tanny is going to remain our QB for the foreseeable future.

    How far can we go with it? I'm not sold on that just yet. Inevitably adjustments will be made by opposing defenses to put some of the onus back on Tannehill. At that point his situation awareness/performance will need to elevate, consistently so.
     
  16. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    With this oline he could. He is going to have to air it out against the jets. Guess we'll know in two weeks
     
  17. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    You know what? It's freaking pathetic when our team gets two wins in a row against quality opponents and all people here can say is, "I told you so." What exactly, did you tell us? Because if I remember right, the same people starting arguments now were starting ridiculous arguments back then as well. That only tells us one thing- TROLL!

    I'm not sure why anyone would need the head coach to say that the offense will play better with the starting linemen on the field. That's obvious to the average pee-wee league player, so I'm not sure why this warrants debate at the NFL level. Starters play better than 3rd stringers. QB's and RB's play better with better protection.
     
  18. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Sans Dan Marino and P. Manning, I can't think of another QB who was able to win consistently without a decent run game. Every offense feeds off of good rushing.
     
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  19. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    A few weeks ago we were 31st in the NFL power rankings. Up to 22 now.

    That's a big rise in a short time.
     
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  20. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Others have us in the mid-teens as well. I found it interesting that some still have Buffalo and Pitt in the top 10, while others have them closer to 20. We were only ahead of either of them in one poll...I think it was SI (we were 18 and Buffalo was 19).

    You know, I always feel pathetic after looking at the power rankings because we obviously know our team a lot better than some national journalist. I can't help but looking anyway.
     
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  21. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wilson has performed at a high level without lynch, and a poor offensive line..
     
  22. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Not in the beginning he didn't. He had time to grow into that. Thill didn't.
     
  23. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    Every fan feels the same way unless you're number 1. Except maybe a Browns supporter.
     
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  24. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Ever watch WWE where a match would spill outta the ring and into the aisles, then later they'd show it still going on backstage.

    That's what it's like reading the Tannehill Evaluation thread in club then coming in here.
     
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  25. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Isn't that why people watch wrestling?
     
  26. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    He had a 100 passer rating with 500 yards rushing in his rookie year...
     
  27. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    You're not following the conversation very well.

    He had Lynch and an ok oline in the beginning. You said he did it without those things, but that's only recently true, AFTER he had time to grow.
     
  28. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Seattle has put up 12 points vs Miami, 9 vs the Rams, 6 vs Arizona (in 5 quarters) and only lost one of those games. I look forward to the day when Tannehill has that luxury.

    I don't blame Wilson for the struggles, bad OL play has repercussions.
     
  29. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So Ryan's play the past two weeks because he's had a run game is inspiring hi level qb'ing?
     
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  30. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    The last two games are eerily similar to stat lines that Wilson puts up. Remember, they're all still acclimating to the new offense, and I expect to see Tannehill's tds go up. That's really my only complaint with him the last two games.
     
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  31. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    geez Louise..because Ryan puts up two games in the nineties he's eerily silimar to Wilson...lol, ugh...y'all love to bring up Wilson when the argument has been put to rest years ago.

    I would just like to root for my team now please..

    Ryan is the QB, so lets go buddy, let's start to use those legs of yours to create another dimension on offense, another dimension to compliment Ajayi and let's make a run.
     
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  32. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Inspring? No.

    Seriously, Deej, put away every discussion we've ever had...and answer this simple question....why don't teams just pass the ball 100% of the time?
     
  33. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I'm not saying he's as good as Wilson. I'm saying, looking at his stat line, is similar to what Wilson was doing with a stout run game.
     
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  34. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Res... Geez... will you get with the program? Have you honestly compared bubbles? Wilson's bubble is superlucious. Tannehill's is pancake flat. Your bubble evaluation ability is terrible and if you can't see that, there's nothing DJ can do to help you... Wilson's bubble has quick twitch lateral movement and ability to wobble round the hips, man... and that vertical... unreal. You don't see that... it's generational man. Tannehill's bubble can't do that. End of story.

    Hey Deej. It's all good. Got your back, man. :tongue2:
     
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  35. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Russell Wilson is a huge reason why the Seahawks run game was so effective. Its no coincidence that their run game has struggled since his injury.


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  36. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    lol, way to gloss over Marshawn Lynch retiring.
     
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  37. Stringer Bell

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    They ran the ball well without him in the past.


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  38. Stringer Bell

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  39. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Had quick twitch. He hit the magical age of 27 when nature starts slowing you down. From here on out he'll actually have to be a QB and every year his escapability will become less and less impressive. Which is why tannehill will have the better career. He'll be a starter into his late 30s and Wilson will be a backup by 32. Wilson's game will be more and more arm and less and less legs as he gets older and quite frankly as a pocket QB he just isn't that good
     
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  40. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Half the QBs on the NFL would have had two rings on that Seattle team and there are about five or seven who would have had three. Imagine Phillip rivers, tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers on that Seattle team?
     
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