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Jay Ajayi the new Ricky Williams

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan40, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. dolfan40

    dolfan40 Well-Known Member

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    That dude is on a Mission,he whooped *** its amazing,a few weeks before we were crying about lamar Miller.Now we see why we let him walk..
     
  2. dirtylandry

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    I didn't think Ajayi had vision, but I saw a few runs yesterday that showed patience and if a hole was closing up, he shifted. The league will be stacking the box now. If the line is this good, we need to be able to pass now effectively
     
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  3. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Teams will definitely game plan for him now. This should....in theory....allow us better options in the passing game.
    As far as Ricky goes...i'm not gonna get ahead of myself. Some on here were saying he should have been released after the early season fumbles he had. Props to Gase for being patient.
     
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  4. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I'm impressed with him so far, but I want to see what he can do when teams start really game-planning for him.
     
  5. RokyRitzel

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    he is good, but lets see what he plays
     
  6. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    There was one play where the defense had the one side stacked up and he was still able to gain some yards away from that.
     
  7. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    He is certainly running much harder now then he was early in the year.
     
  8. Finrunner

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    I don't get the "I'm impressed so far..." rhetoric. Jay Ajayi has just ACCOMPLISHED what only three RBs in the whole history of NFL lore have accomplished... no matter how good their lines, the play calls during those games, and how good their individual talent.

    We'd be insane NOT to be impressed.

    Ajayi has been flat great. Our O-Line has been great.

    It's not a sin to say that.
     
  9. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I don't think rhetoric means what you think it means.
    I'm impressed so far. He's had two incredible games. If he keeps having those sorts of games or even consistent 100 yards+ games, I'll continue to be impressed. We've had flashes in the pan before. Remember Lamar Smith?
     
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  10. Ronnie Bass

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    Yes, Ricky Willaims 2.0 - hopefully minus the weed
     
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  11. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    This is the Jay I was hoping would show up prior to the season. Offseason was a bust and early on he looked horrible first 4 games. What changed?
     
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  12. jdallen1222

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    Ricky would cough cough it up at times, the comparison seems more valid in this respect.
     
  13. Tin Indian

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    Honestly what changed is we have our full starting Oline. While it is clear that a light has gone on for him, that oline is blocking their collective butts off for him too. The fact is that when Albert, Pouncey and
    James start AND finish a game we are (now) 8-1 and average better than 160 yards rushing. The problem is that over 3 seasons that is how often they have been on the field together, 9 games.
    That is the biggest key, keeping the line healthy. The staff needs to do whatever it takes to keep the Oline in general and those 3 in particular healthy.
     
  14. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    And by the way, Ricky Williams is exactly who I think of when I watch Ajayi running the ball. Williams was a little bigger but Ajayi seems to have a little more speed.
     
  15. dolphin25

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    I thought Williams had more speed. Williams would leave people. Ajayi got caught from behind. but, both backs are fun to watch.
     
  16. Pauly

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    Well I remember being seriously concerned when Ronnie Brown got run down from behind every time he got into the open field.

    But on last weeks 62 yarder he showed some real jets and against the bills the pursuer was a CB who had a good angle and Ajayi had lost a big chunk of speed in breaking the double tackle. So I'm not worried about his speed. I think it is there. also for a RB balance is probably a more important attribute than raw speed and Ajayi has been showing plenty of it in the last 2 games. Backs like Barry Sanders and Emmit Smith made plenty of 50+ yards rushes despite never being among the fastest backs in the NFL.

    If Ajayi can retain his health and motivation i can actually see him having more 50+ yard rushes than Lamar Miller even though Miller is definitely the quicker of the two and a legitimate home run threat in his own right. Although I'd still give Miller the edge in 80+ yard rushes. I see Ajayi as having the potential to break more tackles to get his 50+ yarders but having a little trouble converting the very long runs Miller I see as a little easier to pull down but having an extra top end gear can let him convert the 80+yarders that Ajayi would be run down by the DB inside the red zone.
     
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  17. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I've forgotten all about Miller these last two weeks. Lets hope Jay and the OLine stay healthy.
     
  18. DolphinGreg

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    I think breakaway speed is probably curtailed a bit when you've been pounding it all day. Even RBs wear down slightly. :)
     
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  19. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    In my opinion, the players know we now have a coach who will make changes if you don't produce. Cutting Dallas Thomas and the other bum were wake up calls to the players that they have to produce.

    Exactly what I was thinking.
     
  20. muskrat21

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    makes since, he even likes the mary j like Williams.
     
  21. DolPhinPhan7

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    Don't think Adam Gase is going to go Wandstache and run Ajaya 50 times a game and force him to quit for a few years.

    Having 4 First Rounders on the O-Line is finally paying off, regardless who's carrying the rock.
     
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  22. Tin Indian

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    Well, Unlike Brown I think it is pretty clear that Ajayi has a second gear. Last week he pulled away from everyone on the 62 yard run and as was pointed out this week he was run down by a corner with an angle.
    Either way he has more than enough speed.
     
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  23. Finrunner

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    I meant for "rhetoric" to mean the art of effective or persuasive speaking... what people do on a Forum. That's exactly what I said, meant, and what it means. Thanks, though.

    I'm impressed because what's been done is not only flat out impressive, but it's pretty close to mind-boggling in it's rarity. But yeah, be impressed so far...

    Know what? I was also impressed with Ajayi against Tennessee when he was getting hit in the backfield and still managed five to seven yards. It doesn't have to be a 100-yard game to be impressive. But two 200+ yard games? Sure, we're all impressed... so far.
     
  24. Clark Kent

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    I disagree on both accounts. Ricky ran much more smoothly. He was such a natural runner. Ajayi reminds me of Marshawn Lynch in his running style and aggressiveness. As for speed, Ajayi has nothing on Ricky. Ricky in his prime was deceptively fast. Go watch highlights from 2002-2003. Once he got into the open field, it was bye bye Ricky.
     
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  25. DolphinGreg

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    Ajayi seems to be breaking tackles other guys aren't. He's a load that looks tough to bring down. Kind of reminds me of Gore at times...bouncing off people and staying upright long enough to find some open space and then, boom, he's off.
     
  26. Ronnie Bass

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    He reminds me of Earl Campbell the way he hits the hole and will bury a defensive back who dares to get in his way:

    [video=youtube;F9y_KZwOq9g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9y_KZwOq9g[/video]
     
  27. Rick 1966

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    Then you're using it wrong. No one was trying to persuade anyone else. I was giving my impressions and my opinion. I never said "you should feel like this too" and I never lectured anyone the way you're trying to. Sharing your opinion isn't rhetoric.
     
  28. invid

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    He's fast enough, like you said. IIRC, Ronald Darby (corner that ran him down on that long run) ran a 4.31 or something ridiculous like that. He probably catches Ajayi without the angle.
     
  29. dolphin25

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    i remember Brown being caught too and he was supposed to be really fast.
     
  30. Finrunner

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    It was to produce an effect. That is what people give their opinions on a Forum for instead of just leaving said opinions in their own mind. You say it (figuratively-speaking) out loud on a Forum, it is said for effect or to effect, one or the other, hence, it becomes rhetoric. It obviously produced an effect from/in me and I'm sure others.

    I'll give you the last word to tell me I'm wrong again. After that, I'll just let it go. At worst, I get an F in Vocabulary, and at this point in my life, I'm fine with that.
     
  31. Finrunner

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    Sorry, should have quoted Rick above. I get an F for that, too!
     
  32. Rock Sexton

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    .......... all I know is Ajayi's beast mode is activated.
     
  33. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    It has less to do with you using the wrong word and more to do with you making the wrong assumptions about why people post here. I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm just having a long-distance, time-delayed conversation with other Dolphins fans about our impressions of what we've seen. I'm not looking for any effect. If people disagree with me, that's fine. Maybe they're right, maybe I am.
     
  34. dolphin25

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    not sure that comparison is legit, Campbell was a beast and a legend.
     
  35. KeyFin

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    I couldn't agree more...does he have to break every standing NFL record before we say he's a decent RB?

    The goal is 100 yards a game- 1,600 yards per season folks. He's doubled that in the last two games against two solid run defenses. And Sexy Rexy was clear in his press interview that he schemed to stop Ajayi running off guard to the left....he used the word "manhandled" for why they couldn't stop it. So I'm just not sure what you folks are waiting for us to prove.

    As a former lineman, I can tell you that what Tunsil has done is nothing short of miraculous. While Ajayi is solid, Tunsil is 3x better and a huge reason why the run game is working. Pouncey is playing the best football of his career as well and he's already a repeat All-Pro. And Albert? Holy *&#$! He's throwing people around like rag dolls.

    There's no scheming for that folks- you stack the box on the left side of the field and we just run off-tackle to the right....because there's nobody left to really block. Or you come out with what we scored the two-point conversion on- a two yard toss to the flats can go 50 yards. So give our boys some credit here, the turnaround is an absolutely beautiful thing and there's not any luck involved...they are punishing defenses and earning every yard.
     
  36. dolphin25

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    I appreciate your excitement, but it has only been 2 games.

    They game planned that towards the end of the game. Teams will start putting 8 in a box and let Tannehill beat them,, lets see what happens.

    The past 2 weeks have been beautiful to watch running the ball though!
     
  37. Phins_Fan_87

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    certainly makes me forget about miller :)
     

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