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Gase Getting Everything Right, Except the Record

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin D, Sep 20, 2016.

  1. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    can we stop saying the dolphins are a young team? they are the 3rd oldest team in age in the NFL. THIS IS NOT A YOUNG TEAM.
     
  2. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    We were pretty young the last few years. We added some veterans this season and I believe we're middle of the road now. Definitely not 3rd oldest though.
     
  3. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    Yeah, according to profootballreference, the Fins average age is 26.3 years. Thats just a touch older than Seattle, who has 13 rookies, at 25.8 years. New England is at 26.0, Buffalo is 27.0, and New Jersey is at 27 also.

    Our QB is 28, our Rbs are 30, 24, 23 & 22, our WRs are 24, 23, 24, 22, & 22, and our TEs are 28 & 25. Thats a very young offense.

    Our top 3 CBs are 28, 23 & 23. Our LBs are 29, 26 & 24. Our safetys are 28, 27 & 27. The only real spot on the roster thats old is the DL, where we have important players who are 31, 30, 29 & 34.
     
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  4. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Wait ...... you're not allowed to question a hire of a coach who had ZERO previous head coaching experience?

    Regardless, I'm not clear on where people are demonstrably questioning him. The curiosity was how anyone could state Gase has gotten everything right except for the record.
     
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  5. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    it could be, would suddenly mean all the WR's flipped the switch on and started doing better at the same time :)

    The routes still look like same distance, same spacing, just the same.
     
  6. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    yeah i just looked it up, 20th so 12th oldest team. some dang announcer said 3rd in pre season.
     
  7. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Im fairly certain you are not correct... 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012


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  8. heylookatme

    heylookatme Well-Known Member

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    :confused1:
     
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  9. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    read above your post i already addressed it. or is reading hard for you?
     
  10. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Orrrr...he hadn't gotten to this page yet? Snarky is a stinky cologne on you.
     
  11. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    pretty weird to post what he did without getting to this page. since this is the only page to start discussing age of the team.
     
  12. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I meant to write "post", some reason phone made it "page."

    Sticking with the snarkiness?
     
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  13. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    Gase is a HC who's turning our QB into a franchise guy. That's how I see it so far. To me Tannehill has made noticeable improvements since the new regime took over, and that probably doesn't happen without Gase. I liked Lazor more than most here, but (just isolating his game) Tannehill has made more strides in the last 3 months than he had in any previous season.
     
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  14. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    I think Gase will be a good influence on Tannehill or any QB for that matter. Im not sure what he has done in the first 2 games to be considered "turning into a franchise guy" though. He isnt young anymore. He isnt raw. He needs to actually become a top 10 guy this year. So far he hasnt proven anything beyond being an avg starter in this league (15-18) in a good year and being below avg (19-26) in a normal year. I expect his numbers to improve this year with the emergence of a guy like Parker and the oline being one of the better pass blocking units in football.

    Weird to say but the Dolphins have one of the better pass protection lines in football. We are a couple interior linemen who can run and pass block away from being a legit top line. Tunsil should be a stud LT as soon as this year when Albert goes down. The line is no longer an excuse. Its time for Thill to put up. Its the only chance this team has of competing. Our best talent is in the passing game. Our running game and D isnt winning us many games. Although they came close in week 1 but Sea is struggling on O.

    Hopefully this week is the start of Thill and the offense performing well and doing it consistently for the first time in years. So far Thill has been great for 3 qtrs and below avg to bad for 5 qtrs. Tunsil, thill, parker and landry are the best players we have on O going forward. We have to pass better than we have if we expect to win with this current team. 17pts a game isnt going to cut it.
     
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  15. Brasfin

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    You're not paying attention to his play on the field. I think there is clear improvement with regards to his pocket presence, scrambling, intermediate - deep throwing and overall accuracy and decision making. Granted, it's a 2 game sample size, but we did face 2 of the best home teams in the league. I personally think he'll continue to get better as the season progresses.
     
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  16. Limbo

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    It's not about numbers. It's about looking for the little things Tannehill needs to do to make the jump. A new offensive system isn't going to click right away, let alone in two road games vs SB contenders. It's about isolating smaller details.

    His footwork is better in the pocket in terms of speeding up his process and making throws with pressure near him. He's more willing to use his feet and seems more inclined to make plays on his own. He's processing reads faster and seeing the field. His demeanor to me seems more commanding. In the 2nd half of that Pats game you saw some serious, bolder throws that go against his conservative tendencies. DeVante Parker (please stay healthy) should help a lot in that regard.

    For the first four years of his NFL career he was largely the same player he was in college: same strengths and same weaknesses. I think we're finally seeing his shortcomings addressed. It's not going to be a sudden change, but early indications for improvement are very promising. And we haven't even played a home game yet.

    My one concern is that the lack of a running game makes things incredibly difficult for the offense as a whole, especially once we get more into division play. But at the moment I'd bet that by the end of the year Tannehill will have very few doubters.
     
  17. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    As long as Omar Kelly is covering this team, Tannehill will have many doubters, sadly.
     
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  18. DolphinGreg

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    Awesome post!

    That seems to be the consensus amongst those who are watching the tape and objectively grading RT.
     
  19. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Wrong.

    Offensively they are tied with the Jags as the 2nd youngest in the league at 25.9 years old

    Overall they are 3rd youngest in the league at 26.4 years old.

    Do some of you just make stuff up?
     
  20. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Just as a note on how we ought to do things...


    The average age of a team shouldn't consider every player on the roster as equally important. Taking an average age from 53 total guys when some are playing much more than others is kind of meaningless. We should look at age only after we've weighted it according to player importance (i.e. snaps).

    That way a veteran team with a few young rookies playing spot duty will still look like a veteran team because most of the snaps are going to those vets. That's the way it ought to be I think.
     
  21. BigNastyDB13

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    Im paying plenty of attention. I just realize theres a difference between improvement and being a franchise guy. When i think of franchise i think top 10 QB. A guy who is going to lead your team to the playoffs more times than not. He has improved in aspects of his game which is encouraging. If thill becomes aggressive we could really take off. He has the physical skills needed to be good. He just hasnt shown the mental side to the position or the consistency yet. Hopefully that happens this year. If Thill can turn the corner we can focus on improving the D and run game. Getting a good passing game would be a big 1st step for this franchise. We have the oline and wrs (parker, landry) to be a good passing team if Thill finally realizes his physical abilities.
     
  22. BigNastyDB13

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    I hope his play eliminates all the doubters. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for longer than most players get. Being a QB for the Fins gives Thill much more rope than anybody else is afforded. At least by the fan base. We shall see what happens. Every year i expect him to make a big jump and its only sort of happened once. He has progressed much slower than anybody would have liked but it will be worth the wait if he finally puts it all together. If he can become a legit top 10 QB everything else will fall into place. Gase will stick around, no more coaching carousel. The draft will hopefully be focused on adding impact players. We can stop wasting money on free agents who dont make a big impact and start building this team the right way. Heres to hoping Thill breaks out this year.
     
  23. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    People actually care what he says? Not sure why anybody would take his opinion anymore highly than an 80 yr old woman's opinion on football over a game of Bingo. I'm pretty sure Omar never played a lick of competitive sports. He is like the obese guy giving workout tips.
     
  24. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Completely disagree.
     
  25. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    You wouldnt be defending an avg LB'er in his 5th yr like you do Thill. But ok.
     
  26. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I'm not the average fan. Many people on here have been ****ting on Tannehill since he was drafted.

    And a linebacker is average because he can't diagnose plays, misses tackles, and is spotty in coverage.

    Tannehill displays better talent than average, but is often let down by other players, imo.
     
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  27. BigNastyDB13

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    Maybe the linebacker is avg because his D line doesnt keep the big guys off him and the DB dont cover well enough lol. I hope you see my point. Tannehill displays better than avg physical ability, yes. He hasnt been better than avg in his play though. If you compare him to every other starter in the league he usually rsnks in the 16-25 slots. You could argue his performance compared to his peers is below avg. You can always blame someone else though. That will always be there if thats your personality. I tend to hold myself and everyone else accountable for their own personal performance. I dont hold anything against Thill out of his control against him. Unfortunately his own play had been avg at best over the course of his career. Hopefully that changes soon.
     
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