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Jets vs. Jills

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Finatik, Sep 15, 2016.

  1. GARDENHEAD

    GARDENHEAD Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I hate jets. Not sure what you've talking about.
     
  2. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Patiently waiting for this to happen....





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  3. djphinfan

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    Fitzpatrick with his physical limitations plays above them thru intelligence, anticipation, a fearlessness to threaten intermediate and deep ball areas of the field, and he uderstands the importance of running on his own accord when it's there...smart guy.
     
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  4. NCPhinFan

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    We have a Mike Gillislee sighting.
     
  5. GARDENHEAD

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    All those great Bills fans left early.
     
  6. Fin-O

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    24-34 374 yards?

    LOL, gotta give him credit I suppose. He does move well in the pocket and makes the right throws more often than not.
     
  7. VolatilityIndex

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    LOL @ the AFCE!!

    We're definitely going 5-1, with the only loss coming against you guys in week 17 as a result of resting our starters after locking up the #1 seed.
     
  8. Unlucky 13

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    So, I'm guessing that you're a New England fan? Why bother? Really bored?
     
  9. Fin-O

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    You can only listen to Dropkick Murphys album so many times in a row.
     
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  10. BigNastyDB13

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    Lol.. so this is what its like to watch a game where 3rd & 8+ isnt a guaranteed punt. I was under the impression you were only allowed to throw 3 yard passes on 3rd & 8+. When did they change the rules?
     
  11. Vertical Limit

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    That Bills D has given Tannehill trouble, i dont think we have beaten the Bills yet with Tannehill. Whats our record against the Bills since Tannehill got here?
     
  12. Unlucky 13

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    2-2 at home, 0-4 on the road. Very similar to New England. Notion that RT plays badly against them, but not at home.

    Scored 21+ in three of the home games. 9-5 TD/INT ratio.

    Road games have been the most frustrating of any opponent. Only 41 total points in four games. 2-5 TD/INT.
     
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  13. Big Phin

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    I agree. Since he's a Jet, though... @#$% em'. :up:
     
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  14. Fin-O

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    Anytime our offense breaks 20 it's a helluva day.


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  15. dirtylandry

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    safe to say Rob Ryan is overrated and fat
     
  16. seekerone

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    Both Bills and jets demonstrated that they can connect deep and do it consistently. We may struggle with everyone in AFC East if we can't get Ryan connecting with Stills, Parker, or Landry. Maybe our secondary can shut them down, but offense better step up this week get rolling.
     
  17. MikeHoncho

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    Why would you headbutt what is essentially a motorcycle helmet? (I'm looking at you, Jets fan who headbutted Decker)
     
  18. Phins_Fan_87

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    Things like that happen when someone is really drunk, which would be my guess.
     
  19. DolphinGreg

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    (1) I like Jets’ chances.

    Road teams on a short week aren’t supposed to march into the opponent’s stadium and win shoot-outs. The Jets’ new high-powered attack did just that, defeating a Bills team in their home-opener. They overcame a raucous crowd that was feeding off big play after big play and eventually ground the Bills down. With Forte now in town, the Jets are a complete offense. They knew they had to somehow earn a win this week and they got it done. Hats off to what appears to be a well-coached team.

    (2) The Jets WRs are definitely legit.

    Marshall and Decker quietly combined for 2,500 yards and 26 TDs last season. They were about as elite a combo as there was in football. What we saw last night was no illusion. With Matt Forte, Quincy Enunwa and Jalin Marshall now in the mix the receiving options are looking pretty formidable. The Jets are going to exploit a lot of secondaries this year.

    (3) Has Fitzpatrick turned a corner?

    In the same offense last year, Fitz posted an 88 rating behind 3,900 yards, 33 TDs and 15 INTs. The year prior he was a 95-rated QB in Houston with an 8.0 YPA average. It looks like after a decade in the league he’s finally turned the corner into being a slightly above-average passer. Right now he’s on pace to reach a career-best 97 rating with 4,500 yards and only 8 INTs. It’ll be interesting to see if he sustains his pace or cools off.

    (4) Yes, Revis is declining.

    I’m not necessarily going to slam Revis for getting burned here or there. He occasionally struggles with average WRs when they have elite speed. I remember Ted Ginn consistently giving Revis problems. Pure speed has always been Revis’ one weakness. Nevertheless, he was totally incapable last week of slowing down AJ Green who seemed to push him around (much like Marshall v Grimes last year). The announcers mentioned that Dalton had a perfect passer rating when throwing at Revis. Ugh…and now he gets burned again? It seemed as though at one point the AFC had some pretty awesome CBs: Davis, Smith, Cromartie, Revis, Grimes, etc. Now, it appears the WR position is winning that battle.

    (5) Is the Rex-era coming to a close?

    The Jets did a great job of balancing their offense with 36 runs and 34 passes. They anticipated and adjusted perfectly to Rex’s blitzes using Fitz’s running ability combined with favorable 1-on-1 match-ups on the outside. They continued feeding Forte all game and ultimately closed it out with physicality. The Jets overall performance was precisely what NFL football is:

    (a) Protect the QB and stay aggressive downfield in hopes of getting a few big plays. Check.
    (b) Patiently stick with the run in order to stay balanced and wear down the opponent. Check.
    (c) Sustain drives with intermediate passing and close it out with physicality. Check

    In the end, the Jets simply showed up and outplayed Rex and his guys. There’s not a good team in the league that won’t throw the same script at the Bills defense. Losing your home opener to a divisional rival on a short week when defense is traditionally supposed to win those Thursday games is pretty revealing. And again, your offense is suspect. Rex is not looking great.

    (6) Tyrod Taylor is a Rorschach Test.

    I think people are going to see what they want to see in Tyrod Taylor. He finished last year with a 99 rating connecting on 64% of his passes for 20 TDs and only 6 INTs. You add in the 104 rushes for roughly 570 yards and you see a first year starter that looks as though he’s the next Russell Wilson. It’s easy to defend those stats. Hell, they’re great! So it wasn’t a huge shocker when the Bills handed Tyrod a long-term deal in the offseason.

    Last night you saw what the Bills offense really is. Sammy Watkins who’s probably the best WR in the division, was again underused but thanks to a couple home-run balls, Tyrod came away with 300-yards passing and 3 TDs which earned him a 113 rating, essentially equal to Fitzpatrick’s 116. Right now, Tyrod’s on pace for a 99 rating with 3,200 yards in the air and 300 on the ground. He’s essentially on the same pace he was last year minus a bit on the ground.

    Do you think Tyrod played up to the level of Fitzpatrick? I’d say no but those big plays even the score. Would you trust you’re going to get those explosive plays every week? Tyrod’s numbers say he’s a super-efficient passer but clearly there’s a lot of volatility there. Some will point to Super Bowl QBs like Kaepernick, Wilson and Newton as evidence that the NFL rewards that type of play these days. Meanwhile some are going to laugh at the notion that Tyrod is a real, sustainable, franchise guy.

    The criticisms as a passer are real: the release is too long, he’s too quick to bail on a play, whether he sees the field well enough is up for debate, his accuracy is often bad, he holds the ball making his time-to-throw too high, etc. But again, the big plays even the score. As a fan of traditional passing, it’s frustrating and there’s an element of it that feels unreliable, but it sure makes for an exciting game.

    (7) I’m not impressed with the Bills offense in general.

    Greg Roman’s offense has a tendency to fall behind and forget about the run. The Bills threw 31 passes last night and ran just 19 times. That shows they struggled to stay on the field and sustain drives. 50 total plays is not a lot and 3-for-10 on 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] down isn’t good. The Bills also lost badly in time-of-possession holding the ball only 21 minutes to the Jets 39.

    Lastly, Sammy Watkins is fully capable of being in the same conversation with Julio Jones and OBJ as an elite franchise guy. Last year he caught 60 balls for about 1,000 yards and 9 TDs. That isn’t bad but he’s capable of catching 100 balls for 1,500 yards and 14 TDs just like Brandon Marshall did for the Jets. The fact Watkins isn’t has everything to do with the structure of the Buffalo offense and the QB they have. As a Dolphin fan that’s good news. As a Clemson fan, I feel bad for Sammy. The dude looked frustrated out there with inconsistent and off-target throws coming at him.
     
  20. cbrad

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    Greg you forgot to give kudos to Todd Bowles. The guy is engineering a Jets franchise turnaround.

    Just imagine had we hired him instead of Philbin!
     
  21. DolphinGreg

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    Hey, I said in my very first point that they looked like a well-coached team, c'mon brah! ;)

    It is an interesting discussion though because I think (outside of Tom Brady), the Jets probably have the best roster in the division. I think the HC is doing what should be expected, but yeah, that's certainly a compliment.
     
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  22. Finatik

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    The Buffalo Bills have fired offensive coordinator Greg Roman after two games. He will be replaced by running backs coach Anthony Lynn. After Thursday night's 37-31 loss to the New York Jets, the Bills, who haven't reached the playoffs since 1999, already seem to be a team in turmoil.

    Why not fire the Defensive coordinator. The Bills get scored upon more frequently then a $5 hooker.
     
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  23. MikeHoncho

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    Nope. That would make too much sense.
     
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  24. DolphinGreg

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    I don't really understand the move myself, particularly coming off a game where the offense scored 30 points and it was the defense that didn't seem to be up too the task.

    Rest assured though that this happened because Greg Roman wasn't featuring Sammy Watkins and Charles Clay to the extent that they should have been. We can all agree on that. They spent a high pick on Watson and as I've said, he should be one of the best WRs in the league but people are forgetting about him. Clay should also be more included in the game-plan, no doubt.

    I can't necessarily say I'm a fan of Greg Roman or the (lack of) development I see in Tyrod Taylor but nevertheless, this was still somewhat surprising because of the timing. They're now saying the offense is going to stay largely the same. How can it not? So I don't quite understand what it accomplishes unless you're saying "I don't approve of the way Greg Roman is calling games and it's bad enough that I'd rather him not be here and the only hope for saving the season is to get Roman the hell out of here."
     
  25. Vertical Limit

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    Well, Rex had to blame someone... And he cant fire his own brother despite his defense giving up 37.. so he will fire the guy who's offense scored 31 points... because... logic..
     

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