I think Tavon is still on the upswing, which means watch out NFL.. I like the point though about value and I do think there are some measurables that matchup well, I understand a player of jakeems stature has never made it, but Id also be willing to bet that we've never seen a player this size with this kind of speed.
texas tech perennially plays a tough schedule in a tough conference, this aint no small school kid doing it against inferior athletes, this is big time college football.. lets see, 90 catches for almost 1300..how many of those 90 came behind at or around the los, that means that to get that 1300 his yak was sick.
I think you're right that Tavon is on the upswing, and I'm excited about getting a player that has that type of potential. Maybe he can hide in Cameron's hand warmer, and when he cuts right, Grant pops out and sprints left, "where'd he come from?", too late, touchdown, makin miracles happen, lol.
I don't think Grant has the same acceleration and speed as Austin. I don't think he will be that type of player in the pros. He reminds me more of Amendola. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Tre'Davious White from LSU disagrees...left him not knowing what to do when assigned in coverage..''you wanna put your hands on him but you cant, he just moves so quick and he's so fast'' this after grant torched him on a stutter move post for 6...White is one of the fastest players on the LSU defense and will play on sundays..
Amendola? Not sure if your joking, he's a slug compared to Grant, Amendola timed at 4.6 if memory serves.
Grant looks like a 4.45 guy to me on that tape. Amendola played like a 4.5 guy at TT. Tavon Austin looked like a 4.35 guy in college. I can see Grant being an effective WR, but I dont see him outrunning defenses in the NFL the way Tavon Austin can. He has great short area quickness, great balance, and good instincts. I just don't see great acceleration and speed. JMO. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Tannebaum had a great line in one of the pressers. Grier starts to say what they timed Grant at and Tannebaum interrupts and says 4.3 something and then smiles and says we'll get you the actual figure after he signs his contact.
sometimes guys like that just look slow as it is effortless. I remember a college swimming coach telling me he was watching Mark Spitz swim on day. he said he thought "eh, he doesn't look that fast to me, but he looked up at the time clock and Mark had broken a world record. If you see those defenders on the tape, they have him dead to rights, and then he just runs past them; that is what is so telling about this kid. The defender cant quantify his speed. He makes LSU look silly on some of those plays and that was a great defense.
Certainly a more than fair statement, but the Amendola comparison wasn't imo, everyone has their own opinions though.
He's more stout than Austin. He's really more of a Sproles in open space, a little slower but a better overall receiver. I think he adds a lot of options for the offense. Steal in the 6th round.
A differing analysis. [video=youtube_share;lfUJtlZccPI]https://youtu.be/lfUJtlZccPI[/video] 4.30 is still fast.
Man, that same guy Kyle Eggemeyer keeps goin on Grant's videos of his 40 times and ****ting all over it, lol. It's pretty funny. He says the guy who timed it started the watch late and that it's really in the low 4.4's. LMAO. Ok. I love how he clears 6 feet on that high jump up onto a barrel. He can jump over himself.
I just watched that on Bleacher Report. Absolutely insane! How did Miami get this guy in the sixth round?
No offense but if Jakeem Grant looks like a 4.45 guy to you on tape then I'd have to classify you as being among the very large number of people that can't judge player speed on tape and need secondary markers in order to contextualize speed. I've seen plenty of 4.45 players and the notion that Jakeem Grant's speed plays out on tape like one of those guys is absurd to me. It's just not accurate. He accelerates off the line like he's shot out of a cannon. Guys with 4.5 speed can mostly keep up with guys with 4.45 speed, they won't generally look outclassed. Guys with 4.5 speed look completely and utterly outclassed by Jakeem Grant's speed, and it's not even close. The only situation where it's close is if Jakeem has already made a bunch of cuts and has transitioned into 50-60 yard territory, at which point he's no longer a 4.1 or 4.2 player because his legs are tired. As for his speed and acceleration versus a Tavon Austin, YMMV. But the notion that on tape he is a 4.45 guy is flat out inaccurate.
I think it's just based on his size, and I have to admit that is a big hurdle to have to clear, most of these really small, very fast guys don't pan out. Think about it, they guy is smaller than probably 80% of the posters on this board, I will be looking though my fingers on the kids first hit, lol.
He timed it in similar fashion as an electronic timer at the NFL Combine. And I think he was late on the end of the timer, I think a laser would have had this run closer to the 4.26 range. The thing about electronic-style times is they're about 0.1 seconds slower than hand times. Consistently. That's why hand times are to be generally compared with hand times and electronic times are generally to be compared only to electronic times. I think based on everything I've seen that Grant's speed is consistent with someone solidly into the 4.2's, which is absolutely FLYING.
It's not just his size. It's also his drop rate. Small hands come with the territory when you're 5'6". Small catch radius and penchant for dropping the football also come with the territory, but theoretically he could have better hands.
I don't disagree, but if he was 6' 185lbs, he would probably been gone by round 3, and if he had a good drop rate at 6' 185lbs he'd probably been a 1st rounder. If his drop rate was better he may have been taken in the 5th, but I think the major factor is that he is one of, if not the smallest player drafted in the last 10 years, that fact alone takes you off many boards around the NFL.
I didn't notice this before but Jakeem Grant only missed one game during his entire Texas Tech career. He played in 50 of 51 games.
