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Ryan Tannehill looks forward to more 'freedom' in Dolphins' offense

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Silverphin, Mar 21, 2016.

  1. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    That doesn't make any sense, though. They thought he sucked. And purposefully made him throw a ton? Even if your scenario were true, that would make those guys two of the most unprofessional coaches in the league.

    I don't think they threw in the towel. I think Philbin was just in way over his head as a head coach, and Lazor didn't adapt his scheme to counter teams adjusting based on a seasons with of film of his offense.
     
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  2. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Have you ever heard of the term, F**k it? Lol. When someone says that, they start doing stuff that doesn't make sense.

    Philbin at the 11th hour wants the FO to draft Carr. Lazor seeing his boss fired for an unbalanced offense, his replacement promising a balanced offense, continues to call an unbalanced offense. Campbell when he was in charge, stories came out, they were't backing Tanny but the FO was.
     
  3. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    I don't bye it either... both could have quit prior to the 2015 season if that was the case and kept their reputations intact.

    Makes no sense to me that 2 offensive minded guys would have a QB they reportedly didn't trust be among the league leaders in pass attempts each of the last 3 seasons, while being dead last in rush attempts during that span, yet they blame the QB and sabotage their own careers.

    Big Ben averages less than 500 attempts each season, Rodgers averages less than 500 attempts each season. Wilson has averaged only 433 attempts each season. Much easier to be more efficient as a qb when you're not forced to pass almost 600 times a season. No, to me, this is fkn Philbin and his BS with not running the ball and relying too much on passing. Mike Sherman joked about this BS back in 2013, with how Philbin never wanted to run the ball. Clueless Joe was clueless.
     
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  4. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    All that says to me is that Campbell was smart enough to realize that we were dead last in rush attempts and dead last in the division. Our OL was manned by was the walking wounded and guys now on the street. Campbell talked about balance and Tannehill "playing within himself", i.e. NOT putting it all on Tannehill or expecting Tannehill to have to carry the load for the entire offense. He also knew that Ajayi was better after contact than Miller and that like when Moreno was here, that we needed to soften up defenses with a hammer like Ajayi, then let Miller get his carries and yards later in the games where he'd still be fresh and his speed more of a weapon.
     
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  5. resnor

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    Yeah, generally I try and look at the situation, and take it at face value. I'm not trying to read into stuff, even though I get accused of that quite often. For me, I've seen to much improvement from Tannehill, despite the hindrances, to believe that he can't be the guy. At the end of the day, you have to put a decent team on the field, in all aspects of the game, to have a chance at winning. Look at the Chargers for a recent example: Rivers played out of his mind, but the team sucked, and they didn't win many games. Like I've said all along, you fix the main problems: oline and defense, and see how they do. If Tannehill is still not what you want, then you replace him. At least then you've set the team up so that the new QB has a shot at being successful.
     
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  6. resnor

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    I really think you're trying to hard to read into stuff, and then interpret it to fit your narrative. It's far simpler to look at the team, and come to the conclusion that Philbin was inept as a head coach, and made many questionable decisions, from clock management to personnel. It's far simpler to look at the offense, and realize that Lazor did a very poor job of adapting the offense once teams had film on it, and he had very poor play design (like running 5 step dropback PA passes with Wallace being the deep target, as outlined by CK).
     
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  7. jdang307

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    Nevermind, you're not following the discussion and keep changing it. And you're missing some information I'm not allowed to divulge out here.
     
  8. emocomputerjock

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    What happens in club stays in club.
     
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  9. resnor

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    Yes, I understand they didn't like Tannehill. Like I said, given they laundry list of poor decisions by that dynamic duo, their like or dislike of Tannehill is meaningless.
     
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  10. Stringer Bell

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    Why did Miami draft Tannehill if Philbin didn't like him?

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  11. resnor

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    Yeah, it makes complete sense that these two guys gave the middle finger to the organization, and had Tannehill throw a ton because they believed he would fail because they thought he sucked. I mean, certainly these two guys had no desire to be active in the league anymore. Philbin didn't want to coach, and Lazor never wants a HC gig. I'm sure all sorts of teams would be falling all over themselves to get those guys.

    Essentially, you're arguing that these guys knowingly committed career suicide because they couldn't have their way. They really were two of the dumbest coaches we've ever had.
     
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  12. cuchulainn

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    Philbin did what Mike Sherman told him to do and hired who Sherman told him to hire. Ireland and Sherman were all in on Tannehill. Joe was just along for the ride. He had the title of Head Coach, but this was Mike Sherman's team those first 2 seasons.

    A lot of the bickering and other BS didn't start until after Philbin was forced to fire Sherman, which exposed Philbin as just weak. IMO Philbin should have been fired right after the whole "Bully-gate" BS.
     
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  13. Fin D

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    He changed his mind. Humans do that.
     
  14. Pauly

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    Lazor believed in his scheme. When the scheme didn't work he could either (a) admit he needed to change his scheme because other teans were exploiting known vulnerabilities in his scheme or (b) blame Tannehill for not executing it properly.

    Philbin, man he didn't even know there were any problems in the biggest unit on his team until the phins got a call from JMart from San Francisco. His clue meter was broken .
     
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