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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Ray Finkle

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    Meltzer is reporting right now the plan is for Brock to face Ambrose at WM. Makes sense with the way things have been booked lately.
     
  2. Jt0323

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    Looks like Lesnar vs Ambrose now. Still don't understand the Big guys winning last night even if Lesnar is not fighting Bray
     
  3. Vertical Limit

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    Brocks performance yesterday was just great. The guy is clearly the top guy in the business despite what Vince tries to shove down our throats.. He just owns the ring when he fights and the crowd loves it.

    Issue is hes a part timer..
     
  4. Vertical Limit

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    Jesus Shane McMahon looks older than his own dad.
     
  5. Vertical Limit

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    Lol undertaker vs shane mcmahon in hell in the cell.. Now i want the Undertaker to lose..
     
  6. Ray Finkle

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    Very interesting start to RAW with Shane and the WM match. RAW badly needs a change of direction and Shane being in control would give it a nice shot in the arm for awhile however I can't see Taker laying down to Shane. I don't think the match will be any good and expect it to be like the Triple H/Sting WM match with a lot of run ins and smoke/mirrors.

    I admit I really thought they were going to put Shane in Reigns' corner to try and get the fans on Reigns' side half way through the promo.
     
  7. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Three results ima guess is going to happen.

    1. Fingerpoke of death Part 2, Shane takes over Raw with the Undertaker as his ally again.

    2. The Wyatt Family or Stroman jumps in, helps Shane win. Starts the storyline of Undertaker vs Strowman

    3. The Undertaker wins on a still very entertaining long match.
     
  8. SICK

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    Someone found a promotion on ticket master in May for tickets to: Raw Vs WWE 7pm on a monday night.

    Could be nothing. Could be a roster split.

    I'd like to think Either Shane Pays off Taker, or Sting beats the hell out of Taker and puts shane over taker during the match for the 1..2..3..
     
  9. Ray Finkle

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    I doubt it's a brand split, the WWE barely has the star power to have meaningful WM matches without trying to get part timers to come out to help draw.

    I think the most likely outcome of the Shane/Taker match is either Shane gets someone else to take his place in the match like Cena or Taker beats the crap out of Shane and walks out of the match so Shane wins via forfeit or Taker lays down to purposely screw Vince. Of course kayfabe why would Taker want to defend Vince? That part of the storyline doesn't make sure right now.
     
  10. Vertical Limit

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    A badass match like that needs Stone Cold as special guest referee. Undertaker accidently hits Steve with a clothesline, Steve gets up and finishes him off, pulls Shane over Taker to win the match.
     
  11. Vertical Limit

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    Awkward moment last night, when Vince is trying to make Triple H the heel but the crowd responds the opposite way. Triple H with loudcheers, Reigns with loud boos each time he hit Triple H
     
  12. Ray Finkle

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    It's going to be even worse at WM and the night after on RAW.
     
  13. Vengeful Odin

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    With Raw in nothing but smarky cities leading up to WrestleMania, it's actually really smart for them to pull Roman out and try to get him a "welcome back" pop by keeping him off of TV. It'll be interesting to see if that has an impact or not.
     
  14. SICK

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    Going to NXT in Charlotte 4/7 hope to see Nakamura!!! Can't wait
     
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  15. Ray Finkle

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    I'd doubt it will help. The fans just don't want him pushed down their throats when it's clear he's not ready. I still say the WWE should have turned him heel at the Survivor Series and really their best bet is to turn him either at WM or the night after, I think that's the only way he'll ever become the star they desperately want.
     
  16. Vertical Limit

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    He just doesnt have it. He needs to rebrand. Maybe this will be the opportunity for Reigns to turn heel, cheat to win with a sledgehammer victory?

    Triple H almost never loses his first 1 vs 1 fight.. And its almost obvious hes going to lose this one.

    Or triple H will go heel use the hammer on Reigns and then give up the title to Reigns on the following PPV.
     
  17. Ray Finkle

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    WWE had one job to do with The Undertaker which was to explain why he'd agree to the match with Shane and instead they decided to just have him say nothing really.
     
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  18. Ray Finkle

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    Obviously it's a long shot but I do wonder if the WWE is starting to realize that Reigns just isn't going to cut it. Dean Ambrose got a big pop last night, Triple H was boo'ed and no one seemed to care Reigns wasn't there. I wonder if something big might happen at the March 12th WWE Network special in the Ambrose/Triple H WWE title match. Maybe Ambrose wins the title and faces Brock at WM for the title. Maybe Reigns and Lesnar get involved and it's a Four Way at WM. Or maybe people are just getting their hopes up and it'll still be a Triple H vs. Reigns WWE title match.
     
  19. SICK

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    How I can see it going:

    Ambrose wins title, everyones freaking out, legitimizes the network specials for future events, HHH forces himself into the match with he and Reigns at Mania due to Authority.

    Heyman comes out and goes off that his "beast" is being left out, and will fight Ambrose at mania whether sanctioned for the title, or not sanctioned, referencing the parking lot assault. Authority grants Brock match making it a fatal 4 way, maybe even an elimination 4 way, building to Reigns/Ambrose.....maybe a reigns heel turn....or if healthier than we know, Rollins comes out as a face and screws HHH, setting up a 3 way shield summerslam for title.
     
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  20. Ray Finkle

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    I think IF you give Ambrose the title at the Special, which you're right it would legitimize the Network even further, you have to turn it into a Fatal 4 Way, then they can run Triple H/Reigns and Ambrose/Brock at the next PPV. The only issue with that would be the WM undercard loses another match and with the roster being thin, it would be tough to replace it.

    Whether way it makes the March 12th Special a much watch event and not just a glorified house show special.
     
  21. Vertical Limit

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    The new angle on triple H is kinda weird.. seems over aggressive. lol Though it does keep you interested to see what the story ends up in..
     
  22. Vertical Limit

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    I think the ambrose angle will setup with him trying to help Reigns win the title by interfering and instead knocks reigns out, triple h wins at WM, and the reigns/ambrose rivalry begins.
     
  23. SICK

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    Same as he was doing with Bryan leading up to WM30....he handcuffed Bryan and smashed his head into a ****ing ring post with a chair. Unprotected. ****ed up.
     
  24. Vertical Limit

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    I do think Triple H is way over aggressive lately but i also feel like he passed on doing a pedigree through the announce table. It seemed like it was setup that way and he was going for it but he passed and just walked away.

    Which is a good thing cause hes no springg chicken and that can cause injury on his knees. And of course on Ambrose before Wrestlemania. Cant risk more injuries on a thin roster.
     
  25. Samphin

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    Bad Raw last night. Lots of video packages going back to what happened last week. More so than usual. I understand WHY they chose to go that route as last week was a tremendous RAW, but the entire episode felt like they were telling us that they had five weeks to go to WM. In other words, they treated water poorly.

    I don't like the idea of a Fatal Four Way at WM, and think a Triple Threat between Ambrose, Reigns and HHH would be better, storyline and match wise. If you do that, obviously the next question becomes what to do with Brock Lesnar?

    The answer, at least for me, is Kevin Owens.

    Have Paul Heyman come out and cut his promo about how Ambrose conned his way into the title match to avoid Brock Lesnar but that Paul didn't blame him. In fact, Paul thinks it is smart of Dean Ambrose to recognize that he couldn't hang with The bBeast and to cut his losses. And since Dean Ambrose now realizes what the rest of the locker room already knew, that NO ONE can stand toe to toe and go one on one with Brock Les...

    Kevin Owens' music hits and out comes KO to take exception to Paul's notion that no one can stand toe to toe. Because the truth is, while it may be true that Dean Ambrose wants no part of Brock Lesnar, Kevin Owens does. In fact, Kevin Owens has been lobbying for MONTHS to fight Brock Lesnar on the biggest stage of them all, only to ignored by The Authority and denied by Brock's, so called, advocate. So now, Kevin is here, in front of the WWE universe, to hold Paul's and Brock's feet to the fire. If he wants to fight at WM, Kevin Owens is his huckleberry.

    They shake on it and Kevin goes to leave, but before he does, he takes a cheap shot at Brock with his IC title and slinks out of the ring.

    The next week, Kevin defends his title against Dolph Ziggler. Entertaining match, back and forth and at it's apex, Brock's music hits. Kevin turns his attention to the ramp in anticipation of The Beast, only to have Heyman come out instead and hold Owens' attention long enough for Ziggler to hit the Zig Zag and win the title.

    WWE World Title
    Ambrose vs. Reigns vs. HHH

    Street Fight
    Brock Lesnar vs. Kevin Owens

    Hell In A Cell
    Shane McMahon vs. Undertaker

    WWE Tag Team Titles
    Y2AJ vs. New Day

    WWE Intercontinental Title (TLC Match)
    Dolph Ziggler vs. The Miz vs. Neville vs. Jack Swagger vs. R-Truth vs. Rusev

    WWE United States Title
    Kalisto vs. Alberto Del Rio

    WWE Diva's Title
    Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks

    Throw in the Andre Battle Royal (which I would have Sheamus win, to go with a Rusev IC Title win and Del Rio U.S. Title win to give the group a ton of street cred) which could give Big Show, Kane, Wyatt Family, Social Outcasts, Goldust, Stardust and others something to do

    And maybe another divas match between Paige and Becky Lynch, or a tag team divas match that adds Nattie and whoever into the mix, and a tables match between the Usos and Dudleys, and you have a solid card, as far as I am concerned.

    Throw in some appearances by Cena, Austin, Rock, Flair, Foley, Terry Funk and a few others...and I am happy.
     
  26. Ray Finkle

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    Eh I think you have to keep Brock around with Ambrose or you'd like the last month build up between the two pointless and I think having a Triple Threat main event match for two PPVs in a row seems like overkill (but hey when has the WWE been guilty of doing that?).

    You do bring up some good points, what do you do with Owens or Bray Wyatt at this point? I'd guessing we're probably going to get an IC Title Ladder match with Owens, rightfully going over. Bray I have no clue.

    And please no more giving Sheamus any big wins, I'd much rather give it to someone like Ryback, Rusev or even Strowman. Although I wouldn't be shocked if they gave it to Kane as a thank you for all the years of service, like they did last year with Big Show.
     
  27. Samphin

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    Ryback is to me, what Kane is to you. Awful and worthless. I can't think of any other person on that roster that I would rather future endeaver than him.

    The point of giving Sheamus the Andre The Giant Battle Royal win is to give that group SOMETHING to hang their hat on. You combine that with IC and US title wins at WM and you have yourself a prolific group. Add to that, that Wade Barrett hasn't won anything (rumor is he is letting his contract finish up and then he is done this summer), and his last ditch effort to fit in with the group leads him to challenging whoever the WWE Champion is to a series of matches that he loses, and is ultimately kicked out of the group and replaced by a returning Cesaro, and I think you have an interesting mid-card story to tell that involves all of them for a few months.
     
  28. Ray Finkle

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    Hey I'm no Ryback fan myself either but I think he at least has more upside than Sheamus at this point and with his new heel turn it would make sense why they'd make him win it. Again though it's not like who ever wins the match is going to catch a huge break anyway.

    I think the League of Nations has run it's course and probably for the best if they all just split up, especially Del Rio who they have done nothing with since his return and big win over Cena. And I'd keep Cesaro the hell away from those guys when he comes back too. The stable just has done nothing for anyone involved minus Sheamus who got to keep the title warm for The Big Dog and actually made Rusev, Del Rio and Barrett worse off being involved with it.
     
  29. Vertical Limit

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    Whats the point of Fastlane's main event if the match is going to randomly change
     
  30. Ray Finkle

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    What do you mean? Why the WWE would change the main event of WM from Triple H vs. Reigns to something else?

    First off I don't think the WWE is going to change it, I think it's more wishful thinking on our parts because of the Roadblock main event of Ambrose vs. Triple H. But IF, big IF, the WWE does change the main event it will be because they don't feel that Roman Reigns will be able to be the big draw they hope he would and the fans would boo him at his big WM moment.
     
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  31. Ray Finkle

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    Meltzer is reporting that the original main event for Roadblock was a Triple Threat match for the WWE title between Triple H, Ambrose and Lesnar with the ending being Triple H pinning Ambrose to win.

    Meltzer is also reporting that Sami Zayn is scheduled to wrestle at WM and will be joining the main roster soon. Also Undertaker isn't advertised to make any more appearances until WM.
     
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  32. Vertical Limit

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    I think WWE needs to organize themselves already. Either youre in for Reigns or give up on him, have him compete for the US championship or IC title..
     
  33. Ray Finkle

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    I think the WWE is all in on Reigns but the problem is the fans aren't and it's most likely going to blow up in the WWE's faces.
     
  34. Vertical Limit

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    Theres an arrogance of trying to sell The Rock's family tree in their program..

    Rikishi did pretty good for himself
    Yokozuna is a legend
    The Rock is a legend

    The Usos and Reigns are not on that level. Enough already. Usos.. They suck
     
  35. Ray Finkle

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    Trying to figure out the Samoan wrestler's family tree is nearly impossible but I'm pretty sure The Rock isn't related to Reigns and not sure how Rock is related to Yokozuna either. The WWE is trying to get fans to buy into Reigns by using The Rock, saying that they're family etc.

    The Usos are fine wrestlers but they're just boring and the WWE doesn't let them develop a character or personality.
     
  36. Vengeful Odin

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    The Rock's grandfather and Roman's grandfather were blood brothers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoaʻi_family
     
  37. Samphin

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    Rock is definitely related to just about everyone on that list.

    I was bored and thought about doing some fantasy booking where I think everyone gets what they want, and it would be borrowing from Wrestlemania 9...speaking of Yokozuna...

    So, Ambrose fights Lesnar and loses a hard fought match. So hard fought that after he is pinned. Brock picks him up in the German Suplex position, but instead of taking him to Suplex City, he takes him over to the ropes and leans him up against them (symbolic gesture of leaving on your feet). The announcers pump up Dean as being so tough to earn the respect of The Beast.

    The main event sees HHH beat Roman Reigns in another hard fought match, but unlike Brock/Dean, HHH picks up Reigns and begins to pummel him some more, "breaking" his nose again in the process. While HHH is celebrating, Reigns is on the floor, outside the ring, where his friend Dean Ambrose comes out to check on him. While he is doing that, HHH spots him and starts taunting The Shield for losing on the big stage and how they should never cross The Authority, etc. Dean is ignoring him in an effort to help his friend out, but then HHH, feeling cocky, challenges Ambrose to a fight, right then and there, for the WWE Title. Because his Wrestlemania Moment is going to be beating both of them in one night (similar to the Bret Hart, Yokozuna, Hulk Hogan ending of WM9)

    Dean leaves Roman's side, hops into the ring and eventually pins HHH for the title. The crowd goes nuts, HHH is stunned, and Roman is in the aisle way a bloody and bewildered mess. Wondering how Dean is now the champion and feeling abandoned and betrayed by his so called brother.

    The next night on RAW, Dean comes out to celebrate the win, his promo is interrupted by Reigns who is pensive but ultimately congratulates his friend. HHH comes out to stir **** up and demand his rematch. While Dean is jawing with HHH, Roman stands behind Dean and when Dean turns...spear. HHH watches on with a satisfied grin as Roman beats down Dean Ambrose.

    Roman has officially turned heel (similar to Seth Rollins) and you now have your main event for the next few PPVs with Roman and Dean Ambrose, culminating in a three way match with a returning Seth Rollins at Summerslam, assuming he is healed.
     
  38. Ray Finkle

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    Pretty good and would make for a couple of good WM moments for sure. Almost too good and makes sense and would lead into a bunch of good storylines for the spring and summer. So you know we're not going to get anything like that. Reigns is going to win the title, get his WM moment and then have summer feuds with the League of Nations and Wyatts all summer long until the WWE realizes Reigns isn't the next Cena after all and switches to Cena or Orton.
     
  39. Ray Finkle

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    WWE just announced that Brock will be facing Bray Wyatt at Roadblock.

    That makes two matches that are good enough for WM and would probably make the event better. Even though I am interested in Ambrose/Brock match because I think if done right it could push Ambrose to that next level.

    Wonder if the Roadblock Special ends up being better received than WM after all that is said and done.
     
  40. weezybaby

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    Is The Rock eligible to enter the Hall of Fame this year ?
     

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