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****The Official 2015-16 NBA Thread****

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by TiP54, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    You're projecting. Love the shade of "mediocre to crap" BTW. I wouldn't call a team that was sabotaged last year, and then had cataclysmic injury and only missed the playoffs by 1 game "crap". This year's team is pretty good as they are 1 game out of the #3 seed and 3 1/2 up on YOUR Wiz.

    I am on record as never liking the guy, but I appreciate him as a player and what he did for us. But he is what he is. What he WAS..was the best 4 years of his career HERE. It is reasonable to think that his Great play would have continued here. Unless of course, you are on a Dolphins site trolling fans of a franchise you envy.

    It's almost as if you WANT us to be "Butt Hurt'. You NEED us to be "Butt Hurt".

    It could also be that you somehow think we don't "deserve" what we have had or what we are going to get.

    you're the Dolphin fan touting the Patriots as cheaters. Typical. Yawn.
     
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  2. Section126

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    They would in a heart beat, because Bosh and Winslow is a MASSIVE haul for Griffin and their window is Chris Paul's remaining effectiveness. Heat would never make that trade however.
     
  3. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    Probably his best offensive night of the year. Moving the ball with some pace, thinking fast, eyes up and active off the ball. Keep doing this stuff, and the smallball Bosh-Winslow lineups could really improve on that end.
    [video=youtube_share;LEq9gzuOzEU]https://youtu.be/LEq9gzuOzEU[/video]
     
  4. rafael

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    B.S. When I thought he was staying here I said it would be stupid for him to leave, that he might be able to have the best team in the East in Cleveland b/c he was the best player, but that it wouldn't be enough to win a championship. I also said that his chances of building long term success would go down b/c he wouldn't have Riley. Nothing has happened that would call that opinion in question. And as they start cycling through coaches I think his odds of ever winning a championship there go down further. That's not acting jilted. That's making a factual assessment of the situation that has so far been very accurate.
     
  5. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yeah, I am a Dolphin fan that thinks the Patriots routinely cheat. For sure. But you guys are also the most obvious jilted fans on the planet. I mean it couldn't be anymore transparent and obvious. Rooting against the guy like you all do is really weak, I mean I don't root against Dolphin players if they leave. Sure if they go to the Jest and are playing us I'm all for them losing but you guys root against him so openly its just pathetic.
     
  6. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    They were the best team in the East and lost to GS. They will be the best team in the East this year and will lose to GS (or possibly San Antonio), this isn't any different than if he stayed with the Heat. You're "purely basketball" stuff is nonsense, his team is literally just as good as the Heat would be this year too, and they would lose to GS just like if he were with the Heat. The only mistake Lebron made if it was all just purely about titles, was not trying to go play with Golden State or San Antonio because that would have been his only chance at a title over the next few years. Any other team except maybe Oklahoma State and he'd still just be a Finals loser.
     
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  7. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Well, you could take a look back at my posts, realize that I have always been a LeBron fan, never hated him after he left, and had an intelligent conversation; but I guess it's just easier to call me "jilted" or "butt hurt". Either way, everything I said was correct.
     
  8. Section126

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    He is an opponent. of course we would root against him. One more time. Stop generalizing. I am not "jilted". It is natural to have an opinion and then point to events and say "we told you so."
     
  9. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    The Cavs fan thanks this post because you essentially say "Him leaving doesn't matter, because he would lose anyway." They call that projection.

    I HOPE you understand that there is a difference between Cleveland and Miami, and that he had a better opportunity to win another one HERE.

    You are dismissing upcoming events such as the summer of 16', Spurs upcoming retirements, and Golden State Free Agents. LeBron would have been better equipped to win another one here. That is the argument being put forward. To argue against it is to ignore all of these factors including the front office and coaching.
     
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  10. Section126

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    In related news, LeBron's former teammates are now officially all-stars. (Bosh was added today as a East reserve)

    His current teammates Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love were not added by the coaches.
     
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  11. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'll certainly give you Riley over the Cavs front office group for certain but I don't agree that his chances would be noticeably better in Miami. I mean his chances might go from like 40% to 44% or something but he'd still lose. Now Miami would have a much better shot at a big free agent with Lebron there but they still wouldn't beat GS unless that team falls apart.

    I mean I think it burns you guys up that Lebron's team is better than the Heat and will be for the next few years, I seem to remember how you were going to sign Kawhi Leonard, Aldridge all because Riley is just that great of a recruiter but you guys aren't recruiting the top free agents without Lebron. Even Bosh needed to get an extra year and ton of cash to stay there. Lebron leaving changed the trajectory of your team and you're bitter, I get it, its natural but at least admit it.
     
  12. sports24/7

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    We get it. You're jealous of the organization. That's the only reason why you keep trying to take pot shots (even though none of them are landing).
     
  13. Section126

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    You sound so insanely jealous of our organization that it seeps through every post.

    BTW..ARE YOU SURE that the Cavs will be better than Miami for "the next few years"?

    second of all, nobody said they were gonna sign Aldridge and Khawi. We said those would be the best targets in their respective years.

    I love how you say that we aren't recruiting the top free agents without Lebron.....uh..well....WE DID KINDA RECRUIT...... LEBRON. LOL.

    It's gonna be hilarious when Kevin Durant comes here and tells the Wiz to **** off like everybody else does. Are you gonna burn his jersey?
     
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  14. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    There's some serious transition coming for a lot of franchises. The Spurs will be seeing off Duncan, Ginobili and eventually Parker. It'll be interesting to see how long David West remains on the team too, he might be their best acquisition this year. It'll be a new era for the Spurs. The Heat will be looking at a post-Wade era too in the next few years, so that will mark the end of one thing and the beginning of another. The Mavs will be losing Dirk, the Lakers are obviously saying goodbye to Kobe (although his contribution basically ended two years ago), the Clippers don't look to be losing Paul and Griffin very soon but having said that, those two might be on a downward turn. The there's the Cavs who might just be a new team that got stuck in transition and fails to fully emerge. The future of Lebron could prove to be a very curious and very sad revelation.

    It's a weird era for me, a lot of the changes mark the end of the NBA that I grew up with. There's still a lot of brightness though. I'm enjoying watching this Raptors team develop, I'm not sure how stable they are but I find them fun to watch and would love to see them become contenders, at least for a few years. Then there's the experiment over in Minnesota with so much talent. The odds on all of it coming to fruition are slim but if it did - that would be quite the squad. Then how about Orlando. Surprisingly successful this year. That was a franchise that was new as I was growing up and with Shaq and Penny received quite a bit of love. There's something appealing about the Magic becoming serious contenders - if not all that likely right now.

    A strong Knicks team would be awesome, they've been in no-man's-land for too long now. That's a team with passion. Then of course, the Warriors. Even if they repeat this year - can they survive the next stage in NBA success and keep the team together and/or learn how to adapt and bring in new pieces to stay at the top?
     
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  15. Limbo

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    The League is more intriguing than it's been in quite some time, imo. You have the turnover with these superstar players on their longtime teams that you mentioned. Got a large crop of young talent spread around the League, specifically from this crazy good draft class which appears to have a bunch of real building-block type guys. The game itself is changing and becoming more unconventional/small. Then you have the whole analytics aspect of analysis and discussion, nearly all of which is open to the public and/or sportswriters. It's a really good time to be consuming anything NBA.
     
  16. MikeHoncho

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    Maybe he can also get a three team trade with the griz and heat where he lands Wade, Bosh, Chalmers, Birdman, UD and Spo. Also try to lure Ray out of retirement.


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  17. finfansince72

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    I like Durant, he seems like a good guy, if he chooses Miami over the Wizards I'll wish him well. I'm not a bitter ex. Cmon man I'm a Wizards fan, I expect disappointment every year lol.
     
  18. finfansince72

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    If stating the truth is taking shots so be it. Theres nothing to be jealous of in Miami right now, I mean seriously, no one is worried about them right now.
     
  19. sports24/7

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    So supporting LeBron for as long as I can remember means that the actual truth is I'm a jilted, butt hurt fan? Got it. I must have just been pretending all this time, just so I can pretend to be objective for this one post.
     
  20. PhiNomina

    PhiNomina White-Collar Redneck

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    I'm apparently catching strays for liking that post but I have no idea how anyone is arguing with the singular point made in that post - whether in Miami or Cleveland LeBron was gonna lose the next 2 Finals (last year and this year) to the Spurs or Warriors.

    If you want to argue about what happens after that - whatever, leave me out of it. But if you're calling me out for liking this, let's be real about how good the Warriors / Spurs are this year.
     
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  21. Limbo

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    Wait wait...McBOB MAY PLAY TONIGHT. Dragic looking likely too. Whiteside not so much.

    With the team getting healthier, I wonder how many minutes Gerald Green gets. Only played 16 in Brooklyn, and he's been cold on offense. Over the last 5 games he's gone 11/45 from the field; over the last 7 he's 13/57. So streaky.
     
  22. Vertical Limit

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    Playing heat ML... Probably gonna regret it.. Go Heat!
     
  23. Vertical Limit

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    Golden State has the better players but Spo really is the architect of the small ball lineup. Just great movement today so far.
     
  24. Limbo

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    The movement and pace has been awesome, with and without Dragic. McBob is back! Another facilitator type.
     
  25. Vertical Limit

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    All I got to say is: STAT!

    Came up huge today, loved his hustle. Hasnt looked this healthy in a long time. Our doctors are doing work!
     
  26. Silverphin

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    Wade is washed up, guys.
     
  27. Section126

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    I would say everybody in the East besides the Cavs and maybe even them, should be ****ting their pants. Heat when healthy are damn good.
     
  28. ckparrothead

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    Well they hit Section's January win total mark, with one game left to go.
     
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  29. finfansince72

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    Meh, maybe. I'd hope they play in the playoffs, the Cavs and the Heat, it would be by FAR the most interesting matchup in the East.
     
  30. Fin-O

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    If Cleveland keeps playing so divided then I think they absolutely lose to a healthy Heat team and certainly a team who plays well together like Toronto. All it would take would be a game 1 loss at home to either and it appears their "will" is easily broken.

    I hope not, that city deserves something to be happy about...but GD things are looking like a guaranteed let down for that city once again.

    Meanwhile....welcome back Me7o...lets make a playoff run.
     
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    Heat are jelling, noticeably. Cavs won't want any part of this team come playoff time. Deep rotation to get through the 2nd half of the season, too, especially if Beno and Amar'e can keep contributing.

    My only concern is that this improved execution and flow are happening without Whiteside. I don't know how his return will change things. He does certain things incredibly well, obviously, but damn have we looked good with Bosh at the 5. CB is just so damn good.
     
  32. Vertical Limit

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    I think the next few weeks before the Trade deadline is going to say a lot about Whiteside's future. If McRoberts and Amare stay healthy, he's gone. Theyll plug Haslem and Bird in.
     
  33. CaribPhin

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    I'm not so sure about that. Whiteside is a huge bargaining chip for free agents next off-season. With Wade, Bosh, Whiteside, and Dragic on the roster, any FA has to look at that and think they could fit well in there. Miami needs to show itself to be a team on the cusp only waiting on that final jewel in the crown. If we move Whiteside, we're going to have to get some real compensation. A shooter is a must because as it stands Miami has some nagging spacing issues. Amar'e helps because he can play further away from the rim than Whiteside and has better off-ball movement but he's an aged vet on a one year vet minimum deal. After this season, re-signing Amar'e is not something you can sell to a Kevin Durant.

    If you do move Whiteside, who do you even target? I'm at around 10% on the chance of signing KD. Without Whiteside I'm of the opinion that the chances plummet. I follow the dude on Snapchat and you can tell he really enjoys being a member of the org and wants to be here. I think Miami has built up a lot of social capital by preaching loyalty and from a marketing perspective you have to question that.
     
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  34. Vertical Limit

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    Id target a lottery pick
     
  35. Fin-O

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    Who knew the biggest beneficiary of Blatt being fired would be Kevin Love??
     
  36. finfansince72

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    Saw the Cavs Spurs game, the Cavs did look a lot different. The big three scored 20 a piece, I don't think anyone is going to beat them if they do that in playoff games. Seems like Lue has the teams attention. We'll have to see if they can sustain it.
     
  37. Fin-O

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    Uptempo is the way this team needs to play imo, yes that increases the liklihood of cramps....but still.

    They are deeper than most and have a good scoring second unit, I think they will be picking up the pace in the future.


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  38. finfansince72

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    Yeah they definitely looked like a team playing with a lot more energy, maybe Lue is getting through to them. They need the layups and easy transition baskets because they aren't a great shooting team. I think they are a smart trade away from being a serious threat to GS.
     
  39. ckparrothead

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    Well then. Looks like they'll finish 9-8 in January. They survived that vicious road trip and all those injuries.
     
  40. Silverphin

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    Wade is washed up. Obviously he doesn't have any more. What kind of player leads to his team to only an 18 point victory over the hawks
    #StuffHeatHatersSay
     

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