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So did Tannenbaum want Shanahan,but Ross wanted Gase?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Jonathan Keller, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. Jonathan Keller

    Jonathan Keller New Member

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    Gase wasn't the only one who got interviewed twice. Ross and Tannenbaum interviewed Mike Shanahan in the regular season. December 20th I believe and then he was the first candidate to get interviewed in the offseason. And then there's rumors going around that if Tannenbaum didn't hire Gase,he would be fired. I'M NOT SAYING THESE RUMORS ARE TRUE. They come from Jason La Canfora after all.



    But if they are true. Does this mean that Tannenbaum wanted experience in Mike Shanahan, but Ross forced Gase down his throat?. You're comments on this?

    HERE IS THE LINK! http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...-gase-is-entering-treacherous-waters-in-miami
     
  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Where are those rumors?
     
  3. roy_miami

    roy_miami Well-Known Member

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    I would say Ross definitely wanted Gase. He said this time around he wanted to go with his gut (as opposed to the committee convincing him to hire Philbin). Maybe Gase was Tannenbaum's top choice as well but I believe Ross would have put his foot down on this decision.
     
  4. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I'd read that Tannenbaum wanted marrone..
     
  5. Georgia Fin

    Georgia Fin Fin For Life

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    I haven't seen any of that but then again I don't pay any attention to La Confora.
     
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  6. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    He would have been a good match IMO but I am intrigued with the selection of Gaze .
    BTW Coughlin was also considered but in the final analysis they wanted someone who proyected into the future more.
     
  7. Georgia Fin

    Georgia Fin Fin For Life

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    Agreed, I was calling for Shanahan since Joe was shown the door but deep down inside I knew it made too much sense to happen here in bizzaro world.
     
  8. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    If Ross was the one who had final say over head coach then the Miami Dolphins are in big trouble. Why hire a football "czar" if you aren't going to let him decide what football people to hire?
     
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  9. Jonathan Keller

    Jonathan Keller New Member

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    Of course Ross had the final say over the Head Coach. He's the owner!
     
  10. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I'd rather have had Shannahan, but maybe Gase will surprise me.
     
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  11. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I read that all the people were ranked 1 to 6 from several people (including Marino) and Gase came out on top.
     
  12. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    These two are the same thoughts I have.
     
  13. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    According to my source, Ross wanted to hire two head coaches, but Tannenbaum didn't want to hire any coaches and instead wanted to insert himself as the coach.
     
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  14. RachelD

    RachelD Active Member

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    I wanted no part of Marrone to be part of this team, a souless jerk and overall bad coach. I'm glad that Ross finally stepped in and did something that most will be happy with and went with the correct decision instead of listening to "Milk-Shake Mike"
     
  15. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
     
  16. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Well if my two choices are between Shannahan and Gase I can tell you it's not a washed up old coach like Mike Shannahan. All you Shannahan supporters tell me where or when he has been successful since he left Denver?

    2 Super Bowl rings nearly twenty years ago and nothing of real merit since then does nothing to make him a better choice than Gase. I'd rather go with the guy whose needle is pointing up than a guy with it pointing down.
     
  17. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Shanahan and Jackon would have been infinitely better hires IMO.
     
  18. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I had 5 guys I would be happy to sign, Shula, Jackson, Gase, Coughlin and Shanahan.

    Shanahan didn't actually do that badly in Washington. It was the FO and ownership that handicapped him severely.

    Tannehill and Miller are basically made for a Shanahan offense.
     
  19. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    If you throw Hugh Jackson into the mix, that was my first choice. He did a good job in his one season in Oakland. It was foolish for them to let him go after one year.
    Glad to see he has another chance in Cleveland.
     
  20. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I was shocked he wanted the Cleveland job. I think Haslam finally lucked out.
     
  21. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End Club Member

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    Agreed. Must have been one heck of a sales job by Haslam. He must have given Jackson the ability to bring in his own GM or something.

    That is one of the few places that has been a bigger dumpster fire than Miami.
     
  22. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    Because it's Tannenbaum.
     
  23. 757bred

    757bred New Member

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    This....having a 1st time GM, HC, and DC scares me. Going to remain optimistic though.
     
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  24. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Gonna be quite the learning curve we will be forced to sit through.
     
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  25. RachelD

    RachelD Active Member

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    Well, Tannenbaum is the GM, Grier is basically the scout with better pay at this point.
     
  26. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Let's just say all my family out there was relieved. They certainly didn't see it coming.
     
  27. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Not helping. lol :tongue2:
     
  28. RachelD

    RachelD Active Member

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    All you can do is hope that He has learned from his mistakes. He has to know that this is his last shot at being GM anywhere correct?
     
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  29. dgfred

    dgfred Free Agent pickup

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    I think he could have gone to the 49ers but didn't want to 'wait and see' then miss out as HC somewhere.
    No matter how bad the Browns have been... he can come in with a new slate and his pick of two QBs available at the top of the draft. If he waited and the Giants and niners went another way.
     
  30. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    If Tannenbaum wanted Shanahan, then I want to get rid of Tannenbaum.
     
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  31. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Yeah, it's crazy the hate Shanahan gets.

    - Made RGIII rookie of the year and looking like a future HOF. The subsequent failures that followed were not on Shanahan.
    - Drafted Kirk Cousins too, who's looking pretty good these days.
    - Went 39-15 w/Jake Plummer as his starting QB
    - Prior to Gase working w/Cutler in 2015, Mike Shanahan got more out of Cutler than anyone who has coached him... And that's a lot of coaches.
    - Made John Elway a SB winning QB. It's not the other way around, as some might have others believe. Elway prior to Shanahan was a career 77.7 rated QB. In three seasons w/Shanahan, 89.6. And that's between the ages of 36-38 no less... He resurrected Elway's career, which had always been unimpressive IMO.

    Mike Shanahan in Miami could of been interesting. He has HC experiencing. Championship success. Loves the game. Hard working and dedicated. Very knowledgeable about X's and O's. Has the contacts and credentials to build a legit coaching staff. Is a legit QB guru. Best part is, there were rumors he really liked Ryan Tannehill back in 2012. I think it's fair to say, MS should be employed by someone in this league. And I don't think he would of been a bad choice for Miami. In fact, I like him a little better than Gase because he has experience. Which isn't to say I hate Gase or anything. As I said in the Tom Coughlin thread, we could do a hell of a lot worse. And the same goes for MS. He's not the joke that some people want to make him out to be.
     
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  32. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    Agreed. I suspect if he gets another opportunity, he's going to go in with a vengeance, drive and focus, informed by umpteen years of experience, and produce a championship program for his final go-round. Too bad it ain't going to be in Miami.
     
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  33. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    He needs the right QB (who doesn't?) though. If he can get in somewhere and they have that OR will let him pick his QB, then yes.
     
  34. dgfred

    dgfred Free Agent pickup

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    How long was that offense going to last with RGIII running that way? Why would you draft cousins at that time if you were planning on having your franchise QB? Planning for injury? Planning for almost immediate QB controversy? I never understood that move but it sure worked out dandy... except for having to sit RGIII to keep from paying him even more money. Yikes.
    I am not so worried about the offense- if we resign Miller to a decent contract/ if we somehow reshape the OL/ if the TE play is much better/etc. Gase might be a perfect choice.

    The defense to me looks like a much more difficult project. Can't stop the run or the pass... should it be called a defense?
     
  35. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    nice post. you almost have me liking that idea
     
  36. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Exactly, add in the roster's talent fits what Shanny has worked well with in the past, will Gase a shot, think Shanahan was the far better move in the short term. Ross may be thinking 3-5 yrs down the road with Gase, he also does not really understand the state of the Dolphins fan base.

    Almost ten yrs since a winning season, almost two decades since winning a single playoff game, let alone go on a playoff run.

    As a fan I do see some glimmers of objective hope at the skill positions, esp if Miller is resigned, though think Ajayi is going to be a player for us, and still a Tannehill fan, but "one more first time HC, this time it will work!" is asking a lot fans to buy into..again.
     
  37. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    When it comes to trusting Ross's gut, I just don't trust him at all. I believe the Browns got a much better head coach than the Dolphins and Ross didn't even have the guts to interview Hue Jackson.

    It was posted on this forum that Jackson was going to take the 49er's job and that is why he wasn't interviewed by the Dolphins. This obviously was complete fiction and it now appears Jackson was bypassed because Ross and his gut had already decided on Gase.

    Ross hasn't made a single hire as the owner of this team which has benefitted this team on the field since he became majority owner seven years ago. So I really don't see why anyone would expect this hire to be any better.

    I am willing to see how things work out, but my expectations are starting out much lower than many of the people on here.
    I will be extremely surprised if this team improved at all next year from their 6-10 record they finished with this season.
     
  38. cbrad

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    Agree with this (how can one disagree given Ross' previous record!!), but I kinda respect Ross for going with his gut this time. It suggests he thinks he's learned enough about how good or bad advice from professionals in the NFL can be and that in his mind it's better to if necessary ignore them this time.

    Whether the decision turns out to be another bad one or not, that's actually a sign he may be understanding more about what it takes to succeed. Let's hope so anyway (not much else fans can do!).
     
  39. Dolphin Dundee

    Dolphin Dundee Well-Known Member

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    There are a lot of teams looking for a head coach right now and Mike Shanahan is still available. If he is or was that great surely he would have been picked up by now.
     
  40. finfansince72

    finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Im just happy to hear that all of the front office disfunction is finally gone. :)
     

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