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The Official 2015 MLB Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by finyank13, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    At least yore not paying him 20+ a year for 5 years like a Boston gave Porcello or as bad as the ells bury or cano deals. You wanna have a discussion about awful contracts...
     
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  2. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Fyi:

    Dodger spoke with Kazmir, Iwakuma, Cueto and Smardizija
    Dbacks are after Greinke along with LA and SF
    Mets met with Zobrist today

    Sandy Alderson was diagnosed with treatable form of cancer and is expected to undergo radiation therapy for 8-12 weeks. Hopefully he's ok but obviously assistant gm John ricco and Paul Depodesta will have a little more input then usual.
     
  3. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Shocked the giants would let Aoki walk like that..
     
  4. Ray Finkle

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    Zack Grienke, 32 years old, is signing a 6 year $206 million deal with the Diamondbacks. That should answer anyone's question as to whether or not Price will opt out if he's still good/healthy. Grienke added 3 years and 124 million to what he had left with the Dodgers.

    Also again there's so much money in baseball right now.
     
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  5. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Grienke to the dbacks... Weird
     
  6. Unlucky 13

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    Since I don't expect them to be better than 3rd in their division, I see it as a good thing, because Grienke won't be in the playoffs. Made the Dodgers easier to beat, IMO, since they aren't going to sign anyone as good as he is to replace him.
     
  7. Vertical Limit

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    Lackey to cubs is almost a done deal

    And diamondbacks hve one of the best offenses in mlb, an improved rotation and one of the best closers.. Theyll be battling with the giantsfor the division
     
  8. LiferYank

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    I dont know man the dbacks have a ton of talent.

    Still think they need another starter. Rosa as a #3 isnt great but its a damn interesting team.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tJtoG90t8uasgN1wSdzqCru791fDIwPI8v7tzsLTfu0/pub?output=html

    They have room still to improve....
     
  9. Vertical Limit

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    I dont like it one bit... But here to post that the Marlins are talking to the Dodgers and two other teams about a Jose Fernandez trade. I think this has something to do with Boras but thats just stupid. Hes just a ****ing agent.

    We dont even have pitchers worth a damn after Fernandez. Nicolino might turn out to be a decent 3rd-4th guy, but thats all.. I dont understand. Loria needs to go the **** away
     
  10. Unlucky 13

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    If you can't resign the guy, its best to trade him and get what you can when you can. Its a sad reality of MLB. Boras clients almost never resign without testing free agency, so if you let him get to that point, even if there were no bad blood between the player and the club, its extremely dangerous.

    As a Cubs fan, Kris Bryant is five years away from free agency, and I'm already dreading it, because he's a Boras client too.
     
  11. Vertical Limit

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    yea but we still have 2 years of arbitration.. he's not due to be a free agent till 2018. I just wish we could hold onto him long enough till Loria sells.
     
  12. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  13. Ray Finkle

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    Will be interesting to compare the Dodgers prospects in the Chapman deal vs. the Sox prospects sent to the Padres for Kimbrel.
     
  14. finyank13

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    Grienke likes to hit and he reminds me of the type of player where he likes the easier path......great talent but doesn't seem to want to in chaos.....

    Arizona offers a perfect place to go where nobody will bother him there, he can hit and make 32M a year....
     
  15. finyank13

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    I bet Freidman doesn't give the store away the guy is to smart....
     
  16. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    edit:
     
  17. Unlucky 13

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    Happy to see the Reds move Chapman. Will make playing 20 games against them easier next season easier for the Cubs.
     
  18. Ray Finkle

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    Chapman's price tag shouldn't be as high either as he's a FA after the year while Kimbrel still has 3 years left on his deal. I believe when the Red Sox were talking to the Reds about Chapman they wanted JBJ and a prospect package similar to what SD ended up getting, so I'm sure their asking price went down.
     
  19. Boik14

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    I have the same situation with Harvey where Boras opens his fat mouth down the stretch and created a firestorm. Hes a great agent for his players but hes an annoying little prick to deal with. If I ran a team, Id honestly try and avoid dealing with him and any player he signed. His players literally never resign with their original team, he is all about the highest bidder.

    If you want a new owner Ill trade you the Wilpons for a $1.50. Cheap bastards operate the Mets like theyre the Rays (no offense to Rays fans) while clearing over 65M a year from SNY alone.

    Thats a great move by LA....lose an ace so go sign a few SP and get another ace for your pen to pair with Kenley.
     
  20. BigNastyDB13

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    The problem with your thinking is Boras often gets the best players. Conforto is a Boras client as well. Mets will likely end up having to trade Harvey pre 2017 to get the best return. The most logical guy to trade is deGrom. He's the oldest of the Big 5 and he is probably the most reliant on his fastball. It'd be nice if the Mets started trying to extend these guys through their age 32 year but beyond that its pretty risky, especially with the p.o.s owners we have. The Mets are decent owners away from having a dynasty for the next 5 years. I'm not crazy about Zobrist but if the Mets just signed Zobrist +Span/Parra +Bastardo/Sipp they would be the team to beat in the N.L. I highly doubt the Mets get 3 of those guys but that's all it'd take imo. In a perfect world we'd trade for a competent SS as well but with those 3 moves you can live with Tejada at SS. I really hope the plan isn't to roll with Flores.
     
  21. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  22. Ray Finkle

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    Carson Smith would interest me.
     
  23. finyank13

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    Initial reaction is the Sox robbed Seattle....
     
  24. Boik14

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    So apparently Chapman to LA is not done as per MLB.com and other teams are in the mix
     
  25. Ray Finkle

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    I really like this deal for the Sox. They have a pretty good and deep back end of the pen now.
     
  26. Boik14

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    Boras gets a lot of good players but they never resign anyway so you have them for 5 or 6 years and then they need to be traded or overpaid.

    Extending these guys would require our joke of an ownership to pay someone big money. We don't do that. I agree with the rest of it except Flores....although I tend to like him more at 2B he's a big asset with the bat at SS. And his defense during the playoffs got better.
     
  27. Ray Finkle

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    So Chapman is a pretty big scumbag huh?

    On the flip side he sounds just like the type of player Friedman would pick up.
     
  28. finyank13

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA carefulllllllll Finkle he might be your GM someday and you will have to "love" him too!!!
     
  29. Ray Finkle

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    Not if he brought in the types of characters he did when he was with TB. Sorry but I would find it hard to root for the Josh Luekes, Delmon Youngs, Dukes/Willie Aybars of the world if they were on my team.
     
  30. finyank13

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    Elijah Dukes was the pinnacle of moronic behavior.....

    "You dead dawg"..
     
  31. Vertical Limit

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    A very strong bid was placedfor fernandez by mystery team..
     
  32. Vertical Limit

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    Zobrist signs with the cubs 4 years 56 million .. Nice deal and get by the cubs. Shocked yanks didnt jump on that
     
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  33. Unlucky 13

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    So Castro to the Yankees for P Adam Warren and IF Brenden Ryan. As a Cubs fan, I'm ok with moving him to clear salary now that we have Zobrist. I know Ryan, but had never heard of Warren before. Can any of you clue me in? I've read that he projects as a 4th starter type or long reliever.

    As to Castro, I hope that he does well there. He was, by far, the longest tenured Cub currently with the squad. He'll go weeks playing absent minded defense and hitting weak dribblers to second, and then follow that making amazing plays in the field and lining rockets off the bat. He's best when they just let him play his way and not think too much. He's not going to walk, strike out, or hit home runs. But he's a singles machine who hits well around 6th in the order. Great clubhouse guy, and recently moved to the US for the first time in the offseason. Lots of good baseball left in him, I think, as long as you don't depend on him to be a superstar or force him into being something that he's not.
     
  34. Ray Finkle

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    Warren is a good long man in the pen and could be a serviceable 4th/5th starter.
     
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    Warren - 4 seamer which he throws around 93, good slider and nice circle change and a curve he just developed last off season (he uses some sort of a knuckle grip - pounds the zone well, gets a good amount of ground ball outs. He always has that one or two innings where it leaves you scratching your head. I personally like him as a 7th inning guy, Al Leiter apparently agrees. I think the Cubs probably will use him as a reliever also. But he could be a 4/5 starter if needed.
     
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  36. Finfangirl

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    too much dough for that small market team --
     
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  37. Finfangirl

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    That D'backs Braves trade, is mind boggling.
     
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  38. Unlucky 13

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    From what I've read, they'll stretch him out in ST and use him as a long reliever, unless they trade either Jason Hammel or Kyle Hendricks, who are their #4&5 starters at the moment. Then, once Hammel's 2017 is likely declined, he'll be a candidate to challenge for a spot in the rotation that season.

    The bullpen was really weird last season. Aside from the closer Rondon, everyone else was just mix and match day by day. A lot of guys pitched above what you'd expect a lot of the time, and while the results were good at the end of the day, it was often by the skin of their teeth. I could see him being needed to fill in almost anywhere.
     
  39. Unlucky 13

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    They certainly seem to be going all in. Last year, the NL ended up being comically lop sided, with five or six teams head and shoulders above everyone else. 2016 could be even more extreme, with most of the teams on the losing side selling off. in 2015, there was one team (STL) with 100 wins, four in the 90s, and only two in the 80s. The DBacks were the ONLY team with a losing record who wasn't completely awful.
     
  40. Vertical Limit

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    Its hard to judge the trade.

    All i know is the dbacks gave up two top prospects on top of Inciarte, a guy that hit .270 his first year, and 300 his second year. Hes a great contact hitter

    greinke and corbin are without doubt top of the rotation.. You gave up two top prospects and inciarte for Miller.. Its a tough one to swallow if youre a dbacks fan. It can work out wonderfully.. But i dont know.. I wouldnt have done it.
     

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