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Blanket Coverage: Time running out for Tannehill to show Dolphins growth

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Sceeto, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. caliphinfan

    caliphinfan Active Member

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    unfortunately with very few qbs in this draft and the many other holes we have, we have to maximize our draft picks and cant waste it on a qb this year. we will have to suffer through another year with our current qb and hope he plays better.
     
  2. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    I've never seen it either, outside of a scant few times he's shown emotion on a score or whatnot. I can understand someone not panicking every time things are down, but there are times when a "general" needs to show what's happening out there is not acceptable.

    Basically he's just another guy out there. The team needs someone who can inspire.
     
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  3. I agree it has been a rough year for him but I dont really expect to see much improvement from him in a good year. He just dosnt look complete to me.

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  4. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    He's definitely robotic the way Chad Henne was for us. The type of quarterbacks I like are the confident ones. They don't necessarily have to be fiery, but there is something about their personality that gives you the hope that you're never out of it....Gunslinger mentality? Not sure the term i'm looking for, but you see it around the league with the quarterbacks that are long term keepers....The "It" factor? Starters have it, hell you even see it with Ryan Fitzpatrick....I guess it's the reason he starts wherever he goes.
     
  5. I dont care about that as much as when he makes a nice throw and its dropped he does not turn around and do it again. He just does not make the throws he needs to often enough. Furthermore there have been very few times watching him where I've thought to myself "wow, how the heck did he do that. that was something really special" Those moment just dont exist with him. He isnt terrible but he isnt someone good enough to build a future around.

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  6. those are the guys that make throws. sometimes a guy drops one or you get picked but he bounces right bavk with a string of perfect passes. thats not tannehill

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  7. miami365

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    His record for consecutive completions says otherwise.
     
  8. its fine if you think im wrong or whatever but that really does not change what I see on Sundays. He does not make big time throws and he does not surgically dismantle teams. He completes a bunch of meaningless underneath crap.

    he plays it very sare and avoids put the ball in difficult places
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  9. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    His consecutive completion record is an example of him bouncing back? Did you watch the games that allowed him to do that? They weren't down by any means. Can't make an argument for it.


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  10. miami365

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    He's bounced back plenty after throwing early interceptions. His completion record shows that despite what was written earlier that he is capable of stringing together perfect passes.
     
  11. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    I'm not even gonna bother trying to find the statistics on that. It's too vague.


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  12. MonstBlitz

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    Supposedly they are going to let him audible now, which he couldn't do under Lazor. The games might be meaningless, but it will be interesting to see how he does with Lazor gone.
     
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  13. I dont see these games as meaningless at least not for him. I want to be wrong about him. I'm hoping I am. These games are his opprotunity to make us believe it was more the coaching than him. He probably gets next season too but it would say.a lot if he could show something more this year.

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  14. cbrad

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    As far as I'm concerned these last few games are his last chance to convince me he can be a franchise QB. You can't blame your failures on everyone else forever. He fails here (after 4 years and 3 OC's), and I'm all in for replacing our QB.
     
  15. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    Four years and many coaches later is enough. Enough with the excuses. He'll get one more season to prove himself and compete for sure because of the salary cap, but that's it. It's make or break.


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  16. Finster

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    Food for thought, Tanne steadily progressed for 3 years, and people say that he wasn't coached properly, which is an oxymoron.

    Watch Tanne in his rookie year, he didn't even know how to hold the ball he was so raw, and his progress up until this year was dramatic every year, it was quite the topic of the pro Tanne guys.

    So to suggest that coaching is holding him back is an oxymoron, perhaps the HC was bad, maybe the OCs were bad, but the QB coach did his job quite well.
     
  17. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Yeah the completion record is nice and certainly shows the potential he has, but it's when the game is on the line that i'm really talking about. I know I mentioned Ryan Fitzpatrick and I know he's not a top tier QB, but he's a guy that will throw it all over the field no matter the situation. He'll throw a pick and come right back at you like it was your fault. Tannehill is tough, but not mentally tough.He folds in the games that matter, it's been proven over and over again. I hope at some point he gets past all that, but the fact that he still hasn't in year four is a bit concerning. I known I know....Andy Dalton....but let's see what Dalton does in the playoffs before holding out hope that year five is the year Tannehill gets "it" the way Dalton looks to have. I have my doubts about him....he's had a great year, but the playoffs await, but at least he's going to the playoffs. The same has never been said of Tannehill.....He couldn't get it done.
     
  18. cbrad

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    Except for helping him figure out when (and where) to run. Someone needs to sit him down with game tape and go through the situations where, if a play isn't there or the pocket starts collapsing, it's best to run. But I agree with you when it comes to him becoming a better pocket passer.. coaches helped him for sure.

    Also.. I think most fans' ire was directed at Philbin anyway (and this year Lazor).
     
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  19. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Also, no one can say that Tannehill wouldn't have looked even better with a more competent QB coach. You can't use the improvement he had as evidence that they didn't impede his progress at all.
     
  20. pumpdogs

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    I would say his pocket presence is his greatest weakness in which I have seen no improvement in 4 years.I have not seen all year where he sees good coverage and tucks the ball and run for a first down.
    He supposed to be this great athlete but does not know how to use it to his advantage.I guess if it hasn't happended after 4 years it probally never will.Even the teams with good offensive lines give up pressure in the playoffs and the qb has to improvise and make a play.I just don't see tannehill having the ability to do this.
     
  21. yoge

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    You don't need to have a personality to be a good QB(E.Manning) And you dont need a personality to be a good coach(Belicheck). You just need to be good and smart. You all trying to find every little thing with Tannenhill. It's not his personality that makes him an average QB, he just is plain and simple.
     
  22. Finster

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    Of course that's like a conspiracy theory, and flies in the face of logic.
     
  23. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    It may just be something that he struggles with due to poor field vision.
     
  24. resnor

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    Incorrect.

    You can't use some progress to prove that he progressed as much as he could.

    He showed that progress behind a bad oline. I guess that proves that the oline didn't hinder his progress.
     
  25. Finster

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    He has showed a lot of progress, funny how you're saying "some progress" now when it suits your argument, but was singing the praises of how much he progressed in the past, in fact it's one of your reasonings for sticking with him.
     
  26. resnor

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    Yeah, he showed some progress, season to season. Quote a bit from year one to today.

    My point still remains that you can't use that to prove that he wouldn't have made more with a better coaching staff, or that he wouldn't have improved in areas that he didn't improve.
     
  27. Kud_II

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    I hope he plays well so we get somebody to trade for him. Just keep putting up those garbage time stats Tannehill.
     
  28. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    You guys are seeing Tannehill trying to do what Wilson is asked to do. Play off a strong running game and be efficient.


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  29. finsfandan

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    And the Ravens are getting screwed on calls. TD taken away, no call on a face mask, what looks like a bad spot on 4th down.

    We still can't pull ahead.


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  30. cbrad

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    That fantastic Parker TD in the first half really spotlights one potential source of improvement for Tannehill: trust your receivers more 1v1. If he'd do that more on 3rd down, we might not be so frustrated by throwing short on 3rd and long. Maybe Parker is the WR that could change Tannehill's level of trust in 3rd and long situations. Still enough games left to prove it (and this is a fixable problem).
     
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  31. Jt0323

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    that was not a bad spot on 4th down, not at all
     
  32. finsfandan

    finsfandan Well-Known Member

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    The announcers would disagree with you, I'm not so sure. You didn't say anything about the two definite bad calls. Tannehill didn't do anything until 6'3" Parker got separation and went up for it in the red zone.


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  33. Jt0323

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    yeah i know they would i am watching the game and hearing what they are saying. Problem is, i disagree with them.

    What about the miss call with roughing the passer that should have been called on the Ravens? you don't mention that... And that Parker TD, yeah Tannehill threw a nice pass, and yeah Parker made an even better catch, but it still was a great throw...

    How about last week where Tannehill gets the blame, despite every other snap being terrible.

    Also, you take a running game away from a QB and force Tannehill to do it all with this ****ty oline and expect miracles? Even Rodgers couldn't win with this line.
     
  34. finsfandan

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    Roughing the passer? Against who? You mean when Tannehill went for a play action and got drilled? That was a clean hit.

    Parker is 6'3". He had separation. He jumped in the air in front of the DB. The only way it would've been easier is if it were a shorter pass.

    I posted about that.


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  35. Jt0323

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    Beginning of the game, cheap shot on Tannehill, ball was long gone.

    im done arguing about this. Agree to disagree
     
  36. finsfandan

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    I don't remember that. By who?

    Good argument. Ignore the facts.


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  37. adamprez2003

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    Beautiful run miller
     
  38. Jt0323

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    :lol:
     
  39. finsfandan

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    Funny how you think it applies to me. Tannehill has 8 completions off a strong running game up to this point. One very easy TD pass.


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    :up:
     

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