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Will we be able to rebuild the OLine before we have to get rid of Tannehill ?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dolphinzdawgg, Nov 15, 2015.

  1. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Yeah. Mitchell was horrible first half of the season and coyle was playing bend but don't break. I'm not crazy about the play calling on either side. I'm just aware that both coordinators have serious talent holes that they have to overcome. We need tannenbaum to have a monster offseason
     
  2. Fin-O

    Fin-O Initiated Club Member

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    Kind of what he is....and THAT isn't worth 100M.
     
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  3. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There are talent issues on the offensive line, but just as problematic is the coaching issues in re: to the blocking scheme and stuff like that.

    You are going to be lucky if Bill Lazor doesn't get Ryan Tannehill killed before a competent coaching staff can work with him.
     
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  4. MikeHoncho

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    I've accepted that the guy just isn't a cerebral QB at all.
     
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  5. MikeHoncho

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    Nope.
     
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  6. jw3102

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    I thought the Eagles OL was worse than the Dolphins OL today. In fact there aren't a lot of good offensive lines in the NFL at this time.
    A QB who can move in the pocket, calls audibles at the line and makes quick reads to get the ball away can make even a bad OL appear to be adequate.

    Tannehill's lack of awareness in the pocket continues to be an area he has showed zero improvement since entering the league.
     
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  7. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I think because Tannehill was thinking about becoming a doctor and he was a good student, many people assumed he would catch on to the NFL game quickly.

    Unfortunately, there are intelligent individuals who just don't have football smarts. Dan Marino was never considered the brightest bulb in the package, but when it came to being an NFL QB, he was able to process what was happening around him as quickly as any QB in NFL history.

    Tannehill just looks completely lost at times during a game.
     
  8. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    You guys realize that muskrat has been a huge Tannehill supporter, and is being sarcastic here, right?

    At least, I think that's the case.
     
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  9. MikeHoncho

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    Agreed
     
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  10. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't say huge. just realistic. this o-line sucks and there are a lot of other reason this team loses that has nothing to do with tannehill. I just place blame where it belongs, and for the moment the majority of it isn't tannehill's fault. Majority doesn't mean none either people because there are things tannehill needs to work on too.
     
  11. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Mine was really not directed at him.. I got his sarcasm


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  12. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    Or our worst LB unit in the NFL? Those don't contribute at all? Or lack of depth at DE? Quality depth that is.
     
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  13. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You're pretty much taking a gray area that we are presented with as fans and then using it to bludgeon Tannehill with. What is being suggested in re: to Tannehill not being smart enough to change the protection schemes is directly in conflict with his ability to handle the other, much more complex and stressful elements of the offense. It doesn't make sense he can perform like he does in terms of reading defense during the play but he can't identify who is lined up where and protection problems that spring from that.

    It is pretty apparent Tannehill is given "kill" options and hot reads rather than read audibles or adjustments to the playcall, and opposing defenses are all over what is given to him.
     
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  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    yeah realized that after i posted lol
     
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  15. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    its amazing to me how often anger is misdirected at the wrong area in these threads
     
  16. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    Welcome to 2015, pretty much every QB that gets retained after their rookie contract makes that much. I wonder if Cinncinnati should have listened to their feeble fans and replaced Dalton with McCarron, or anyone else but him... The more you guys indulge yourself in your agendas, the more oblivious you become to the facts/circumstances. Do you want us to believe you're fans, or the can't-be-wrong expert critics you portray yourselves as?

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  17. AdamC13

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    I heard Shula once say about Marino "it doesn't take long for it go from his brain to his feet and to his arm." I think with Tannehill there is a Stop sign in there somewhere or a least travels through a school zone.
     
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  18. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Haven't read the thread...but I'm guessing the "Wins Are A QB Stat" crowd, are saying we won in spite of Tannehill.......

    Am I close?
     
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  19. Fin-O

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    I obviously struck a nerve....

    Maybe observe the games, watch other qbs in the league....and my agenda is the Miami Dolphins winning football games. Ryan is the guy here and finding a real franchise qb is very difficult...but that doesn't mean I'm ok with him coming out every Sunday and being about as average as average can be. But by all means, tell me all the reasons why him being average for 4 years is not his fault.
     
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  20. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    nail, head
     
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  21. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    oline. Keep up
     
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  22. Sceeto

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    We won. right?
     
  23. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    yes we won the smartest dumb person award.
     
  24. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    No, we didn't. Looks like from the messages we got blown out.

    I am pretty bummed about it.
     
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  25. MikeHoncho

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    Well, clearly Tannehill is the worst blocker we have on the oline.
     
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  26. Silverphin

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    Worst tight end, too.
     
  27. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I did see Tannehill actually step up in the pocket for once... it was an OMG he actually did it moment. I stood up and clapped for him.
     
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  28. resnor

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    What you should have clapped for, was that Tannehill actually had a pocket to step up into. I have lost count of how many times I've seen him try to climb the pocket, only to get smashed by a defender or two that crush the middle of the line.
     
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  29. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I was happy when Sanchez entered the game.

    That's why we won.

    I thought the reason he wanted out of KC is because they wanted to move him and he refused. I don't think he will make a move out of LT.
     
  30. HardKoreXXX

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    He's been doing it frequently. Can you blame him for not doing it more often though? You kinda need a semblance of a pocket to do that; when you don't, you roll out to the right, which is what we typically see him do.

    Unrelated: Tannehill's deep ball has gotten A LOT better. It's actually a weapon now. The passes to Lamar and Stills were both dropped in a bucket.

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  31. dolphin25

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    Lamar had to stop and wait otherwise a TD, same with Stills (if he was led inside more it was a TD) he had to turn to the outside to try catch.... still it was a pretty throw.

    Watch how he backs out of the pocket into a sack so many times. If he will step up he will be ok more.

    sometimes it does come right up the middle.
     
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  32. resnor

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    Pretty sure the ball to Stills he had a guy draped all over him in the pocket, was pretty quick pressure. Initially I wasn't happy with the throw, but it really was a great throw, once saw replays.

    Usually Tannehill can't step up.
     
  33. muskrat21

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    at least the tannehill deep ball haters have moved on from he can't throw it, to, it wasn't a td so it still sucked.
     
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  34. MikeHoncho

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    Most Sundays, I legitimately wonder if we actually even field guards.
     
  35. Phins Up Wins Up

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    The problem with all this Tannehill needs a better team talk is saying he doesn't make the team better. Tannehill needs a better team around him instead of significantly improving the team with his play. When Aaron Rodgers was injured the Packers went 8-7-1 nearly losing the division. And most of those wins were with Rodgers. I believe they were 2-6 without him. Without Romo the Cowboys are 0-7. With him they are 2-0 and a 12-4 playoff team last season. Steelers with Big Ben are 4-2 and 2-2 without him. The Colts were 2-14 without Manning and Luck. Patriots without Brady 10-6 didn't even make the playoffs. The previous year they nearly went undefeated losing in the super bowl and have made the playoffs every year with him. You Tannehill defenders can talk all day about O line, defense, coaching, and whatever else. But the evidence shows the great quarterbacks make a significant impact for their football teams. They greatly effect the W column. Tannehill doesn't. This team was already a 7 or 8 win team before they drafted him. The quarterback position has the greatest impact on the game. As we have seen when star quarterbacks go down. Tannehill needs a better team around him instead of making the team better.
     
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  36. resnor

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    The problem with your argument is that you are completely discounting the defense routinely allowing teams to score 30+ points. Acting like that ISN'T a major factor in losing games is ridiculous.

    I'd love to see what this team looks like without Tannehill. Then one side or the other could just stop arguing.
     
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  37. MikeHoncho

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    When are these Tannehill fanboys going to wake up and realize this guy is just not an NFL caliber receiver/blocker?
     
  38. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    yeah. he's hitting the deep ball on a weekly basis now. yet the momos continue to say he has bad deeep accuracy.
     
  39. Phins Up Wins Up

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    Whether you like it or not it is. Great quarterbacks greatly impact their team. Why are teams so much worse without their star quarterback?
     
  40. Phins Up Wins Up

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    With Matt Moore at quarterback they were pretty much the same team. There argument settled....
     
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