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Official WWE/TNA Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Ray Finkle

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    Haha. I think I was in the minority on these boards in that I really thought Rusev had a limited self life as the "evil foreigner". He was only getting cheap heat being anti- US but never really got any big reactions during his matches. I figured after his feud with Cena, he'd be an upper/mid card heel ala Kane/Big Show being fed to the upper/mid card faces.

    With that being said the whole Dolph/Lana/Summer/Rusev storyline was a huge disaster and it wasn't helped by the whole intragram engagement photo.
     
  2. Samphin

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    With Barrett and Sheamus now an official tag team. I actually wouldn't mind them adding Rusev officially after he heals. Gives Barrett and Sheamus some time to build chemistry as the European Elite, or whatever they are calling themselves. Maybe New Day loses their titles to someone like The Dudleys, who in turn, lose it to The Euros when a returning Rusev helps them out and turns them into a faction.

    Figure out an angle with Cesaro, either joining or fighting against, and I think you have some entertaining television for your mid-carders.
     
  3. Ray Finkle

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    I've said numerous times over the years that the WWE should pair up mid card guys that aren't really doing anything and see what they can do as a tag team or stable. Just look at the New Age Outlaws, Billy Gunn was Rockabilly and Road Dogg was The Real Double J at the time they got together, they aren't over, creative had nothing for them and they were probably a few weeks/months away from getting axed and they become one of the most popular tag teams ever. It's wrestling, you never know what gimmick or idea will get over huge.

    I feel like the writing team never really has any ideas for either Barrett or Sheamus even when they're in higher profiled feuds so why the heck not?
     
  4. Ray Finkle

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    Orton is getting shoulder surgery and will be out 4 to 6 months. I feel like Orton barely even wrestled this year.
     
  5. Ray Finkle

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    2nd episode of Breaking Ground was pretty good. I really like how the WWE is opening up the curtain to show people what goes on at NXT.

    I don't understand how or why ZZ has a job but I think it was basically to have him on this show and fail and show the home viewer how hard the wrestling business is.

    Really hope they highlight some of the bigger starts like Bayley, Samy Zayn, Joe and Balor more.
     
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    Seth Rollins was injured in Ireland.

    Survivor Series will now have a Tournament to crown the new WWE Champ.
     
  7. SICK

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    Torn knee (MCL, ACL, Minisc.) 6-9 months hes out.


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  8. Vengeful Odin

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    Really sucks to hear about Rollins. I may be in the minority but I really enjoyed his work so far this year. With Bryan and Orton on the shelf, and Cena supposedly off filming a TV show, who will they put the belt on?

    My picks? Reigns, Cena, and Sheamus, in that order. But if I'm WWE, I seriously think about breaking open all the piggy banks and heading to Chicago for a big-time mea culpa.
     
  9. Ray Finkle

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    Definitely sucks for Rollins but this could be a good opportunity for the WWE to get fans invested back into the product. Survivor Series now becomes a must see PPV because you're guaranteed to get a new WWE Champion. Plus tournaments are awesome.

    As for who should win, if the WWE really wants Reigns to be the next Cena then he should win it. Put the title on him and keep him strong and see what happens. Whether they want to turn him heel or whatever it has to go on him or to a lesser extent Ambrose. Anyone else the fans will crap all over.

    The finals should be Reigns vs. Ambrose with Reigns turning with help from The Authority screwing Ambrose and have Ambrose chase Reigns ala the 1998 Survivor Series with Rock winning then turning heel and Austin chasing him. That's really the only money feud the WWE has right now.
     
  10. Ray Finkle

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    Meltzer is reporting the WWE haa started to contact "big names" to appear on both RAW and the Survivor Series. The WWE is hoping Sting will be healthy enough to join the Undertaker/Kane team against the Wyatts. WWE is trying to get Brock to come back early but he's in Canada on hunting trip so they have no clue if he'll be available. Meltzer also reported that early plans for WM was a Rollins/Triple H match that is obviously off now.
     
  11. SICK

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    The tournament is set boys!!!

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  12. Jt0323

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    Wwe should have done a huge march madness bracket for the title, have a Cinderella story make the final 4


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  13. dolfan32323

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    I'm with you. Rollins was one of my favorites on the roster. I loved his reign as a champ and his mic skills. Definitely going to miss him.
     
  14. Samphin

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    Brackets were a little weird, but having to face vs. face matchups in the quarters is an interesting route, so far.

    It really boils down to Reigns vs. Ambrose or Reigns vs. Owens, in my opinion. It would have been nice to have some more viable contenders on the Reigns side of the bracket. The only one who may have a shot is Del Rio, I suppose.

    Also, how did Breeze, Kalisto and Titus make this tournament? Granted, they are supposed to be jobbers, and did their part...but really? You couldn't have justified having former champs in the tournament like Mark Henry, Jack Swagger and others and accomplish the same thing? Strange.
     
  15. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah the brackets make no sense unless they expanded them. It was strange the WWE had Kalisto go over Ryback at Smackdown takings too. But like you said the tournament is going to come down to Reigns vs. Ambrose or Owens.

    Meltzer was reporting that if Rollins didn't get hurt Reigns was going to beat him for the title at Survivor Series.
     
  16. Ray Finkle

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    Can't believe it's been 10 years since Eddie died.
     
  17. Ray Finkle

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    According to Meltzer the original WM plans in the summer were Rock/HHH, Brock/Taker and Cena/Reigns, then it was going to be Rollins/HHH, Brock/Taker, Cena/Reigns and now plans, since Rollins got hurt, are Cena/Taker, Brock/Reigns with Triple H being left out of the card fully. Word is Rock is officially out of action because Hollywood studios won't sign off on him wrestling due to insurance.
     
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  18. Jt0323

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    need a better card than that to sell out Cowboys stadium
     
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  19. Ray Finkle

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    Agreed. Brock vs. The Rock (which isn't going to happen) or Brock vs. Batista would probably help but outside of those guys I really have no clue who Brock should fight.

    It's too bad the WWE ended Undertaker's streak because him vs. Cena would have been really interesting. And I think people would get behind an Ambrose vs. a heel Reigns match.
     
  20. SICK

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    If cleared, which is a big "if"....they could really sell a Daniel Bryan V Brock Match

    Also, a good mid card feud if handled correctly....Sami Zayn debuting at Royal Rumble, eliminate Owens, and feud for IC title leading to WM...maybe a ladder match or something.
     
  21. SICK

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    Also, anyone trying to get to Royal Rumble this year? Its in Orlando and literally ON my sons birthday. Would love to get there, stub hub has some decently priced re-sells.
     
  22. Ray Finkle

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    While I'd love to see a Daniel Bryan/Brock match, I don't think the WWE will ever let Bryan face off against Brock with his concussion issues. Just way too much of a risk with Brock throwing him around the ring with german suplexes.

    A Zayn/Owens match would be great, so would anything with Finn Balor (imagine him doing that entrance in front of 100k).
     
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  23. SICK

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    With RR being in Orlando, gotta think some NXT guys will get a good time in spot light with a big pop from the crowd, which will help.
     
  24. Ray Finkle

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    Eh, I hate guys debuting at the RR as the majority of the crowd doesn't know who they are and thus get zero reaction. Plus the Rumble really does a poor job showing off their skills as it's basically punch/kick lay against the ropes while teasing elimination.
     
  25. SICK

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    Me too, which is why I mentioned it being in Orlando, they'd more than likely get a pop with a local crowd knowing the NXT guys more so than other areas haha.
     
  26. Ray Finkle

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    I still think the majority of fans at the event would have no clue who the NXT guys are. NXT is still a niche product right now. The hardcore fans that show up for NXT shows only make up a small % of the WWE main audience.

    Even if the guys got a good pop it's not like the WWE/Vince would let them really have a big moment in the Rumble. Most likely they would be eliminate after a few minutes. Remember when Rusev randomly showed up for a Rumble in 2011 maybe? Or when Kenta was in the WM 31 Andre Battle Royal and literally did nothing. I'd much rather the WWE bring out older "legends" to get the big pop instead.
     
  27. Ray Finkle

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    Outside of the semi finals and finals, Undertaker/Kane vs. Wyatts and the Women's title match what other matches are their at the Survivor Series?

    I don't understand why they didn't run the whole WWE title tournament at the PPV instead of RAW/Smackdown.

    Also Meltzer is reporting that Triple H and Vince are butting heads as to whether or not to turn Reigns heel. Triple H wants to but Vince doesn't.
     
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    Was the Paige-Charlotte contract brawl the best contract brawl ever in the Divas division? it might be one of the best of all-time. That was great. Intense.
     
  29. Ray Finkle

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    It was very good and really intense, Charlotte especially. I hope their match has the same energy and hopefully Charlotte starts out the match fast paced, maybe even attacking Paige during her entrance, and not the normal slow lock up stuff.

    I can't really remember another "divas" (man I really hate that phrase) brawl like that. I'm sure there has been but I'm just drawing a blank.

    I also found it interesting that the WWE decided to have that be the last segment on a go home show.
     
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    Trish and Lita had one once that was pretty good. But this one looked "real" which is key for a contract brawl. Gotta make it look "real" and possibly a shoot.
     
  31. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah it absolutely looked like a shoot, especially with Paige's jacket ripped and the way the refs handled it. It was well done all around.
     
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  32. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah so ummm yeah. Ratings are in the toilet, all of the big stars are hurt or away doing other things, the WWE has been pushing Reigns as the next big thing/next Cena so they finally have him win the big match only to lose the title in 7 minutes to freaking Sheamus. That's the WWE in a nutshell right there.

    The rest of Survivor Series was ok, nothing special or standing out. Still can't freaking believe the WWE is giving Sheamus another title run, especially now and the way he's been booked the last year or so. I seriously wouldn't have had an issue with Reigns aa champion because at least its something new and someone the WWE would seemingly be behind. I truly wonder how this is going to affect Reigns' drawing power moving forward.
     
  33. Vertical Limit

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    Well WWE probably read everyone talking about how Reigns was going to be the next champion so they thought HMMM what can we do to make it unpredictable... Oh right, we got the MITB gimmick thats been done fifty million times...

    Is there ever a time where someone cashes in and yet still loses the match? That would make it unpredictable for once.
     
  34. Jt0323

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    Sheamus, really? im confused with their decisions. I personally wanted to have Sheamus go to cash it, only to have the contract to expire
     
  35. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah Cena cashed in the brief case only to lose the match.

    There's nothing wrong with something being predictable as long as there's a good story that's being told. I will say even if Reigns won the title and the show ended with him spearing Triple H it would have been a major let down because fans were excepting something big to happen last night. The WWE brass is so out of touch with the current product and what fans actually want it's scary and it's been this way for years now.

    If the WWE truly wants Reigns to be the next big thing after Reigns speared Triple H and Sheamus attacked him, Reigns should have no sold the kick and just destroyed Sheamus and beating him. Then the story is Reigns won 3 matches in one night, was dominate and even stopped a MiTB winner from cashing in.

    Again Sheamus is the WWE World Champ, the same guy that lost his 1st round match in the WWE title tournament and looked like a chump in his Survivor Series match earlier in the night. He hasn't done anything meaningful in years outside of winning the briefcase. How is anyone going to take him seriously or credible?
     
  36. SICK

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    WWE man....wow. I just....don't get it.

    Reigns wins his first title, time to attach the horse and carriage on your future star Vince, its his time to shine......never mind. Rehash of Bryan at Summerslam 2013. How uninspiring.

    Sheamus is holding the belt that Brock F'n Lesnar held hostage for a year, how does that title mean anything at this point? Hell I would have rathe seen Owens/DelRio in the finals. Ambrose/Reigns was a weird match. You could tell they didn't have a ton of one on one chemistry, they probably haven't had a match against each other since FCW in front of a crowd?

    A lot of the matches ended weird, like no build up or climax at all. Just 123....ding ding. Thats it. Hardly any false finishes. Odd night.

    Wonder if Brock comes back and destorys Sheamus or something, Vince has to be panicking at this point.
     
  37. SICK

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    Oh and Cesaro out 4-6 months with shoulder injury. Sucks for him.

    Mid card is a joke right now too, need to get Owens in a feud. Need strong Heels. Maybe push Rusev back to the moon (is he healthy?)...Turn Bully Ray single and heel like TNA....I dunno they just need something.
     
  38. Ray Finkle

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    Pretty sure Cena will be the one coming back as hero to beat Sheamus for the title. I think the WWE is planning a Reigns/Triple H match for WM based on what we saw last night.

    All the matches last night were pretty average with a chance to be better but were just too short. Ambrose/Reigns match should have been better and longer but Reigns just isn't someone that can have a good match with anyone.
     
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  39. Ray Finkle

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    WWE needs strong heels and faces. With Rollins out, Cena, Brock and Bryan gone they are extremely light on talent, which makes the Sheamus decision even dumber.

    I agree I think the WWE needs to go hard with Owens, he could truly be a star. Fans really like Ambrose but his character direction since the Shield split has been uneven. Bray could have been a player but yeah he's been getting no favors with the way he's been used. I doubt the WWE turns to Bubba Ray as fans stopped reacting to the Dudleys. Rusev is out for awhile and him and Lana are pretty deep in the dog house right now.

    I think the WWE should really focus on getting Reigns, Ambrose, Owens, New Day, Wyatts and Tyler Breeze over right now. Make them the focus of the shows. Of course this is the WWE so get use more of Sheamus, Kane and Big Show.

    Maybe it's time to bring in Finn Balor and Samoa Joe. People would absolutely get behind Balor, especially with that entrance.
     
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  40. Ray Finkle

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    Meltzer is reporting the decision to make Sheamus the champion last night was made hours before the PPV started. The reason behind it was because the WWE doesn't want the fans to boo Reigns as champion and they feel the crowd would cheer Reigns while booing WWE Champion Sheamus.

    Once again, just shows you just how out of touch the WWE truly is. If the fans are going to boo Reigns as Champion and the WWE doesn't want that, then just turn him heel, eventually the fans will start to cheer him (because that's what they do) if he's a dominate champion or shows charsima like they did with The Rock or even recently Brock or New Day.
     

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