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There's a lot of Passion in the locker room

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Piston Honda, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    "There's a lot of passion in the locker room. I don't think we have a lack of leadership, in the slightest. We have more leadership than any team I've been a part of, there's definitely not a lack of leadership...I believe in coach Philbin and how this staff prepares us."

    Ryan Tannehill. After today's game.

    Take it for what it's worth. Which isnt a whole lot considering how players tend to say the right things. But RT, and Suh, who made similar comments, have zero to fear from speaking out vs the staff. Contrast that w reporters and their unnamed sources allegedly saying the exact opposite.

    Doesn't quite fit the narrative.
     
  2. magicap

    magicap Shonuff

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    Weren't you one of the guys that pounded the desk last year for Philbin and said continuity would make us stronger?

    Edit:
    My apologies. I was getting you mixed up with too good for dez.

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  3. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    Each player will take things differently.
     
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  4. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Tannehill is just being a good QB and team leader and saying what the team wants him to say. Plus, he's not a defensive player, and the biggest and most obvious give-up has been on defense.
     
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  5. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    That's stating the obvious but it needs to be said when so many are making sweeping statements on the psyche of the whole team. As if they all think with one mind.
     
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  6. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    What ever happened to Dez? Wonder what user name he is using these days LOL.
     
  7. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    OF COURSE Tannehill said that. He NEVER says or does anything to throw a teammate under the bus. He's never once criticized his horrible oline in 3+ seasons, or called out his receivers.

    It's proof of nothing.
     
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  8. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    :lol: This is just typical press conference player speak. What do you want them to do? Throw the staff under the bus? These guys know there's only so few NFL jobs and teams available. They aren't about to screw themselves that way. I mean, I know, you love Philbin and all, but even you have to think the point you're trying to make here is a bit silly given the current state of things.
     
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  9. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    The last time I saw someone try to climb out of a hole this desperately it was accompanied with the words, "It puts the lotion in the basket."
     
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  10. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    No, it's not proof. If you read the OP I said as much.

    But RT had no problem voicing his displeasure last year when Philbin didn't name him the starter prior to the Oakland game. And if what RT says publicly carries no weight with you then how do you feel about reporters and their anonymous sources?
     
  11. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    What does that even mean lol.
     
  12. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    If tannehill said anything like philbin said about him last year, i would buy a tannehill jersey.

    Something like "im not sure he will be the head coach for week 6, we'll see.. "
     
  13. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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  14. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Lol thanks. I figured it had nothing to do w football but I wasn't sure.
     
  15. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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  16. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    I think it's a good, professional stance by Tannehill. He's an all-around good guy. I just wish he could win some of these games on his own.
     
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  17. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Me too. He's trying. He's just not good enough, yet.
     
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  18. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I take anything I read or hear through a news report with a grain of salt. I worked in law enforcement for over 30 years and I was present when many things occurred which made it into the news.

    I saw first hand how quotes and facts were distorted to create a better news report. So any time I read about an anonymous source, I believe about 10% of what I read has some truth in it and figure the other 90% is completely fiction. Unfortunately it is impossible to figure out which 10% of the report is factual. Therefore I simply end up discounting the entire report.
     
  19. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Tannehill is probably very aware that hes going to have a new HC soon. The last thing he wants for any potential coach to hear him, the newly paid guaranteed to be here for years qb, mouthing off about his coach.

    That wouldn't look good. That alone would be a reason not to come coach miami. "Well tannehill won't stick by me, **** that noise"
     
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  20. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Works for me. I don't trust media reports either. I only posted the comments bc there seem to be a lot anonymous sources being quoted as down on Philbin and the staff.
     
  21. magicap

    magicap Shonuff

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    Exactly what I thought.


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  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    luuuuucyyyyyyy, you got some splaining to dooooo


    this move is all about leadership and motivation..you were wrong..the team wasn't playing as hard or intense as they could of..im interested to hear your response?
     
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  23. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Well-Known Member

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    A big part of my critic of Tannehill is that he seriously lacks leadership skills. IMO a real leader at the QB position would have said, "I need to step up my game and leadership. I need to motivate the players around me to perform at a higher level, to be ready on our first drive, etc..."

    How lacking in leadership is Tannehill? That void in leadership allowed Richie Incognito to be the team leader two years ago leading to all kinds of dysfunction and blowing up the OL that many now say is the cause of Tannehill's piss-poor play. That isn't something that would have happened under the leadership of a Brady, Manning, Rodgers, and most starting QBs.
     
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  24. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    Is there someone that can check on Piston Honda to make sure he's ok?
     
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  25. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Maybe he's cleaning out his office... :shifty:
     
  26. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    PISTON HONDA was Joe Philbin:shifty:
     
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  27. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    But hey, at least he can be happy that the people running the organization didn't listen to the fanbase and did it all on their own.

    Those guys did it for the right reasons and not the reasons we were complaining and whining about, which were the wrong reasons because we didn't watch the tape 25 times after each game
     
  28. Tannephins

    Tannephins Banned

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    Frustration can be easily mislabeled as "passion."
     
  29. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    An interesting theory, but even Joe Philbin took more accountability for his failures than Piston Honda did.
     
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  30. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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  31. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I thought Campbell made some interesting points in his press conference. Saying the team was playing hard but not competing, not practicing hard enough. He wants more heated practices, for the team to walk the line between playing aggressive and playing dirty. Sounds good, but I'm taking a wait and see approach.

    As for being wrong. About what? My point all along was that Philbin wasn't the ONLY problem. Gotta look at the players and personell staff too. I stand by that. The Marlins fired their manager early in the season and brought in a guy who could "connect with the players", turns out they were putting lipstick on a pig bc the team continued to suck. Again, we'll have to wait and see.

    Philbin. Ireland. Sparano. Sherman. Henne. Henning. Cameron. Wannstedt. How many times have the Dolphins fired the guy who was supposedly the problem?

    You guys take a few days to celebrate, then let's get back to reality. And save the chest beating and told ya so's until after the team starts playing better and wining some games.
     
  32. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    As a fanbase, we have to...HAVE TO....start understanding that the things said in PCs or to reporters by someone from the team may not be true and that person is just playing the game the way they are supposed to.

    Players and coaches do not regularly openly call each other out and always find a way to offer support. Its part of the game.
     
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  33. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Too funny. Lemme guess you were beating your chest when Ireland, Sherman, Sparano, Henne, Henning got canned, too.

    Congrats bro, you were right, again. Lol. Who's next on your turnstile of scapegoats, Coyle, Lazor, Hickey? Tannenbaum?
     
  34. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

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    While that's 100% true. Would you agree there was something behind Campbell's consistent hammering home of the idea that there wasn't enough intensity and competition in practices and within the players themselves? And is it safe to assume or believe that players were just "going through the motions" under Philbin?
     
  35. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Sure. I'm not saying what they say is never the truth. As I said in my post (they may not be true).

    I'm just saying harping on the comments made by Tannehill because he isn't crucifying Philbin after the game doesn't mean anything.
     
  36. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I agree, said so in the OP. My point is that Tannehill is a made man on this team, he doest have to throw anyone under the bus, but he doesn't have to unequivocally deny there's a problem either. Recall last year, even before his new contract, he publicly said he didn't like Philbin not naming him the starter vs Oakland. So it's not as if RT can't or won't speak up if he feels the need to.

    Either way. Time to move on. Campbell says the team wasn't competing and he's gonna light a fire under them. We shall see.
     
  37. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    Seriously ? Let me refresh your memory, you were constantly reminding us that " after reviewing the tapes " , you were certain that the players played as hard as their minimal ability and talent would let them. WRONG ! They were NOT playing hard enough with Philbin as their leader. Thats quite obvious now, so you might want to go re-watch the tapes to see where you went wrong. We all make mistakes, just admit it and move on.

    And, the reason I started the post with " seriously ? ", is I still believe you post the things you do for dramatic effect only. Attention seeking comedy , if you will.
     
  38. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Your reading comprehension level is off the charts, and not in a good way. I've been admitting I was wrong ever since the Jax game. Try and catch up.
     
  39. RGF

    RGF THE FINSTER Club Member

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    Not true, you`ve stated several times well after the Jags game that these players are playing as hard as they can, they`re just not good enough and Philbins leadership,or lack thereof, has little to no bearing on their performance. REMEMBER NOW ??
     
  40. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I said I don't see a lack of effort or a team that's quitting. I see a team that's not as good I thought, and they're not playing well. I said those things in response to the hypothesis that the players were mailing it in as a message to Ross on how they felt about Philbin.

    Nuance may not be your thing, perhaps you're a black and white kind of guy. But I reserve the right to say that Philbin is not a good coach AND the team isn't good AND they're playing poorly. Thus firing the HC isn't really the answer. The whole operation needs to be adressed, no quick fix is gonna cause a sudden 180.

    I'll gladly admit I'm wrong if this team rebounds and finishes with 9-10 wins. But you guys swearing you're right before there's a game or even a practice, that's weak as hell.
     

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