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And here we go...''Joe Philbin didn’t much like the way his team looked in pregame''

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    We all think, but really have no clue of who's to blame. That's the fun of a s--t storm. :crapstrom:
     
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  2. 77FinFan

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    I was just wondering what kind of impact it would have on Tanny's play if he were more often playing in games where the score was closer to even early.
     
  3. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Or Sparano was also bad at motivating players? Why do you not allow for that possibility? That's just as likely, imo.
     
  4. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I mean, either it is or it isn't. It's not little bit.

    This is where Philbin fails in leadership. Either they are slow starting and it is an issue to be dealt with. Or they are fast starting and it's not. It's clear they lack urgency at the start. They start slow and methodical and super conservative. They don't have energy or tempo.

    This is on the staff. But also the players and RT. They need to be aggressive and ready to go.
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    his team played fine on the road..much better..better road team then home team.
     
  6. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of fans were blaming Philbin for week 1. At some point the damn players are responsible for themselves. It'd be great to have a stud of a HC but we're stuck with an idiot for at least another year. The players still need to play better. It either starts today or the fins season will be all but over. This game is as much must win ad any week 3 game can get. In other words, the players shouldn't need help getting up for this game. Home opener, division rival. If they get beat today, it'll be because they aren't that good not because of a lack of emotion.
     
  7. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Players not being ready is still an indictment of the head coach. No matter how you slice it, it just is. I agree, players shouldn't need a coach to be fired up...but then again, a coach should inspire players to be better than they are.
     
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  8. PhinsMondayNitro

    PhinsMondayNitro Active Member

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    "Didn't much like"?
     
  9. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.
     
  10. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    you agree with the poster who says hes not a good coach?
     
  11. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    "Flat" doesn't only denote emotion. Sh*tty execution and penalties to start games is coming out "flat." The opposite of coming out "sharp."
     
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  12. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I agree here..im tired of these fu##in players complaining, and choking too..where is their pride.
     
  13. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Mic check 1, 2, is this thing on?

    I don't like Philbin. Never have. I wouldn't say he's a bad coach because bad coaches typically don't make it to the NFL. But I disagree with the way he runs the team.

    Starting the season with two TEs and no FB was stupid, for example. How can you get the run game going when there's no one to lead block or set an edge, not to mention no physical RB in the backfield.

    There's more but I don't wanna go off on a tangent here. I may seem pro Philbin, I'm not though, it's just on this particular issue I think the bulk of the fault lies elsewhere.
     
  14. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    PH has said time and time again that there are plenty of things we can criticize Philbin about.

    His point here is that we shouldn't go off blaming the HC for everything. There's plenty of blame to go around. Philbin doesn't necessarily have to be #1 on the list every time. That's annoying.
     
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  15. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    When I say flat I mean lethargic, lacking effort. Playing hard but poorly isn't "flat" IMO.
     
  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    ok, we disagree, I think having your team have energy and to warmup properly in pregame is on the head coach as much as it is anyone.
     
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  17. resnor

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    Playing hard, but with foolish mistakes, is still playing flat. Playing hard, and missing some tough catches or tough theirs isn't necessarily flat. Aside from Tannehill, Landry, and Cameron, who do you think isn't playing flat on the offensive side? Tannehill was certainly flat in game 1, though, if you ask me.
     
  18. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    That's what she said.
     
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  19. Finster

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    Your right, technically speaking, it may be due to several factors, however, the HC is responsible for that, therefor accountable.

    Whoever on his staff that is not doing his job well, like Mike Sherman, that's on Philbin, it's his job to get the right people in place, and we all know the Sherman story. Coyle? Why does he still have a job here? He's earned a firing, so who else is not getting the job done under Philbin? There's no real way of knowing, but the people inside do, and if they're not believing in the HC then their commitment will suffer, it's human nature, you can still be a hard worker, but not believing sucks the juice out of it.

    This is his 4th year here, there are no more excuses for Philbin than there are for Tanne at this point, he has total say over his staff, whatever failings they have are his, so it's not scapegoating him, he is responsible, the captain goes down with the ship, as they say.
     
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  20. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Hey, apologists, this is classic for a Philbin team. This. Team. Is. Flat. And they suck. Pathetic.

    Philbin and Coyle should be fired at halftime.
     
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  21. ssmiami

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    I'm really angry I could throw TV out the window, I'm sick of this crap coaching
     
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  22. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    They suck alright. Going to get embarrassed in the home opener. Both sides of the ball suck.
     
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  23. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    Lol

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  24. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    The team just looks pathetic. That on the coaches.
     
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  25. M1NDCRlME

    M1NDCRlME Fear The Spear

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    Fire mother****ing Philbin tonight!
     
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  26. BigNastyDB13

    BigNastyDB13 Well-Known Member

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    Going to need a lot more than a coach. If you think our biggest problem is coaching, you're watching a different game than I am. Philbin should've been gone after last season. He will be gone after this disaster of a season. We ve got much bigger problems than just a hc.
     
  27. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    You say that, but who really knows. The players are clearly not playing for the coaches. Get new coaches, that the players believe in, it would look different, imo.
     
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  28. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for new coaches but don't kid yourself. The players suck too. You don't lose by 27 bc the staff isn't any good.
     
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  29. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    I'll admit it. I thought this was a good team. I was dead *** wrong. They suck. But what I won't do is blame the staff, no they're not good but the players aren't any good either.
     
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  30. resnor

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    The team has talent, but the coaches aren't using it. The coaching is a huge problem.
     
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  31. muscle979

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    They're certainly not THIS bad. They should have been at least a slight step up from last season and last season was 8-8. No way we do that this year.
     
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  32. Vertical Limit

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    I dont think we have as much talent as you think we do. Our offensive line is completely bad, only one worth keeping is Pouncey. We dont have a running back worth a damn. We dont have a linebacker worth a damn. We need a safety, and with Grimes age we need two corners. We need a pass rusher. Thats 15 holes combined from both sides.

    and lets not forget the giant hole at headcoach..
     
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  33. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Yeah OK. It's not the coaches out there getting their asses kicked.
     
  34. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't think this team is anywhere near as talented as we thought it was. Miami really is as bad as we feared in many of the positions we avoided talking about.

    Yeah, the play-calling is horrible but that'll be fixed when the coaches are fired. More of this roster needs to be turned over than I'd like to admit though. That'll be at least a couple years of rebuilding I bet.
     
  35. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    It's past time to reevaluate how good these players are.
     
  36. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The defense has Suh, Jones and Jenkins to build around and that's really it. Grimes and Wake are on the decline. MAYBE someone will trade something for Wake. I'd listen to anything at this point.

    Vernon is not worth re-signing while Misi needs to be replaced. The team has holes at CB, FS, OLB that I didn't even mention. The defense is just terrible and will need to be rebuilt.

    With the offense you can at least just focus on adding what lineman you can find.
     
  37. Griese's Glasses

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    Let's get Shula back on the sidelines while we still can (with respect).
     
  38. Hellion

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    Here and there
    Yes they are that bad. As are the coaching staff. The OL was alway going to be a problem, injured LT no guards over rated center and a RT that had a decent rookie year. Three Wrs with under three years of experience and one that is past his prime. A TE coming off of an injury and a Rb that is average at best. Now the defense, LBers are horrible And wouldn't start anywhere else. The secondary has a 30 plus CB as the best we have other than that junk. Safety's um Jones. Rookie kicker rookie punter. Did I say the coaching staff is over matched every week? Oh and there is no depth other than the very young receiving Corp. ladies and gents your 2015 Miami Dolphins. Oh and the one thing that could have driven us on defense has been a huge disappointment as of now.
     
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  39. Piston Honda

    Piston Honda Well-Known Member

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    Well, this won't be a popular post but Jeff Ireland built a better defense than anything that Miami has fielded ever since. Outside of Landry all of the good players on offense came in under Ireland. Fans should be careful what they wish for.
     
  40. jim1

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    New stadium. Home opener. Same pathetic showing by the Dolphins as when they last were seen in Sun Life Stadium.

    For the third game this year, the Dolphins look like a team that doesn’t want to play for Joe Philbin. Buffalo rode a 24-0 first half for an easy, 41-14 victory in which the home crowd never had a chance to enjoy a minute of the new season.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...aveHyde-blog+(Dave+Hyde+|+Sun+Sentinel+blogs)
     
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