Will you consider tannehill still a franchise QB if he doesnt lead us to playoffs?

Why in the world would defenses respect the deep pass when Miami showed poor ability to complete it? Teams let them have it, and Miami couldn't complete it. Mid-season they changed the offense and scrapped it.

 

We were watching different teams then, and I was watching all 22, watching defenses react to Wallace because they feared him.

 

Yep. The oline is key, but too many posters on here want that elite QB with the magic bag, who just reaches in and pulls out plays for tds, despite what his teammates are or aren't doing.

 

Tanne missed opportunities to score, yet again leaving points on the field, I thought he played on of his best games, but is still leaving plays on the field ans not performing well late.

His lack of pocket awareness is amplified late in games, the delay of game was embarrassing, he had no clue the clock ran down until they blew the whistle, got to have better awareness than that at that time of the game.

 

EVERY QB leaves plays on the field. Every. Damn. One.

 

What's that supposed to mean, all QB's are equal?

Your just trying to minimize QB play.

 

3 holding calls plus false starts don't really help your offense out. ON top of the fact that the line was allowing JAX to do whatever they wanted, isn't really conducive to a winning offense.

Did you watch Rodgers or Brady yesterday make mistakes?

 

sounds like you are trying to minimize everyone else's team responsibilities.

 

Huh? You're criticizing Tannehill for leaving plays on the field, yet EVERY QB does that. It's not minimizing, it's not an excuse. It's a fact. You want to magnify things about Tannehill, and act like he's somehow different in this regard than even the great QBs.

There's literally no way I'm complaining AT ALL about Tannehill's game yesterday.

 

At this point, the anti-Tannehill crowd (that swears they aren't anti-Tannehill) only have nebulous non specific rhetoric to complain about, like he doesn't have "it" or he doesn't have the "killer instinct" or he doesn't "take the game over" or he doesn't "put the team on his back" or he doesn't "will the team to win".

Its all bullcrap that is made up by overly emotional people who really think the W/L record is the only real QB stat.

Its lazy. Its weak. Its bad. And it detracts from the real issues (hello defense) and puts extra undue pressure on Tannehill.

 

Don't forget about the oline, Fin D, as a real issue. Defense and oline.

 

He played well until the game was on the line. More par for the course throughout most of his tenure in Miami.

 

Every QB leaves plays on the field. The good ones leave less, and their teams win. Matt Ryan didn't play all that well, but when they needed a TD late, he made plays. Accumulating stats is different when you look at situations. Tannehill was excellent for my fantasy team yesterday. 30 points. He just needed to be a tiny bit better than he was for the team to win.

Was he the reason they lost? Absolutely not. He was the very last person on the list of reasons we lost. But at this point, there are not going to be any NFL Films specials on Tanny. If you believe in clutch or not, you know what the definitions are. And Tanny doesn't have any of those had to walk uphill both ways to school stories. We're not here talking about, Tanny was so great, he overcame a non-existent run game and terrible defense. He just is. He's slightly less than Matt Ryan in the scheme of things. And that's Okay, you can win Super Bowls with that level of play.

He's gotten much better than last year it seems, if he continues his play from yesterday. So hopefully he does correct some of the things he still needs improvement. His pocket awareness and situational awareness is still lacking. He's no longer young at 27, but he's still a little bit inexperienced. Knowing you have a backup LT, deep in your end zone, he shouldn't have held the ball that long. Luckily the fool who gave up the sack recovered the fumble and knew enough to drag the ball back into the field.

To summarize, he doesn't suck, he's Franchise, and I hope he gets even better. I don't see Aaron Rodgers/Brady/Manning ever. But maybe Brees, Big Ben in the future. And that's all you can ask for. I'd give him a grade of A after yesterday. Sure we needed A+, but that's not his fault. We wished he did get an A+, but he didn't. But you're not pointing fingers at him. You show him in film where he could have done a little better, but you point fingers at the oline and defense. They genuinely suck.

 

I'm no Tannehill homer (I think most know that) but let's face it, not even prime Peyton Manning can lead this power hungry group of incompetent coaches to a playoff run. When you pay Tannehill the amount of money they gave him in the offseason, you pay Suh 65 million guaranteed as well, and you're still enforcing your way (which is documented to be the loser way based on the past 3 years), there's no way you're going to win.


If Tannehill is supposedly the franchise quarterback, why does everything look so robotic, why doesn't he call the plays he is comfortable with? Seems like everything is Lazor's way. You have to throw Tannehill in the fire and let him create on his own already. You're paying him like a top NFL quarterback so it's time to let go of the reins and let Tannehill run the offense the way he thinks it should be done.

Same goes with Suh, if it's true we're not using Suh's fullest abilities and restricting him to techniques he doesn't excel on, then what the **** did we bring him in here for? Let the man do what he does best, we can't tie these players hands with your mediocre schemes..

 

And you have to appreciate Suh being vocal after the game. Basically calling out the coaches telling them, you all have to figure this out, your schemes don't make sense. I wish Tannehill would be vocal like that. Instead he looks like Lazor's puppet.

 

I'd rather not go back and watch Marino. It'll make me sad.

 

Where's that gonna get me? I'm still stuck with the same mediocre ball club that consistently turtles at the game's most pivotal moments .... that goes for all players INCLUDING their own QB.

 

Penne > Tanne

 

If you're talking about a side dish.

 

Pennington was always underrated. He was really ****ing good.

 

Who underrated Pennington?

 

Then Jimmy Rotini is the best.

 

One drop? Go back and watch son.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COzxKhpUYAADiPe.png:large

 

Not a fact. Wrong. Rewatch.

 

LMFAO!!!!

Noodle arm????

Welcome to the list. You made it!

Goodbye!

 

Right up until his arm fell off.

 

Thank God for small miracles.

 

And 3 drops this week, big drops, more miscues and blown assignments, and enough garbage to go around. Go ahead and blame this one on RT too.

 

Don't worry, the football geniuses will.

 

Will you consider tannehill still a franchise QB if he doesnt lead us to play...

Tannehill's defensive gameplan has to be better next week. He is misusing Suh.


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Like I said about ten pages ago.....if/when this season goes into the tank it will be more about coaching than quarterback play.

 

There is a logical fallacy in the thread title. If Tannehill is a franchise QB, he WILL lead us to the playoffs. Period. We just need to stop putting sh***y coaching and sh***y players around him. Get ONE of those two solved, and we're in the playoffs. Odds are, that will happen before his career is over.

It's actually not quite hard to make the playoffs. When you have a good QB like Tanny you have to be doing your absolute worst, to not make it.

 

Just to show you how pathetic this franchise has been for the last 13 years (with 1 playoff appearance).. Given that 12/32 teams make the playoffs each year, the probability that any randomly chosen team would fail to make the playoffs in at least 12 out of 13 years is approximately 2% (actually had to round UP to get to that).

2%!!! 98% of the time, a randomly chosen team will do better than having at most 1 playoff season out of 13. I mean.. even the Jaguars have done better than that (2 playoff seasons) in the same period!

 

Stupidest **** on the website... Congrats troll

 

Pennington was good for a year with a modified offense to compensate for his noodle arm. Good defense and running game.

 

his job is to lead his offense and score, I cant give an A for 20 points.

 

I'm sorry, that's ridiculous, DJ.