Sports Buzz: What undrafted rookie Dolphins will be this year's surprise?

Give me Vigil and Hull, I'd be ecstatic!


Seriously reading about Hull, if you take out his name and "undrafted" it is EXACTLY all the same stuff said about Zach Thomas.

 

For like the 8th straight year, it won't be Juan Huron.

 

IMO, I think Vigil and Christion Jones probably have the best shots to make the 53 man roster. Should be interesting to watch as Miami kept 5 UDFAs on the opening roster last year - Darkwa, Williams, Hoskins, Johnson, and McCain. Obviously 3 of them are still here and one, McCain, is a projected starter. Williams was a nice receiver out of the backfield and I think Anthony Johnson warrants keeping around in some capacity as a developmental guy.

 

i don´t know, i still don´t get the hype about these Linebackers we picked up after the draft....probably tough to shine in shorts as a LB , but they have to start to flash soon after camp opens

 

Vigil did stand out in shorts, during pass coverage drills. And Hull was reportedly "all around the ball" all camp.

 

I'm hoping for both Hull & Luc.

 

When preseason starts I wouldn't at all be surprised to see LB Jeff Luc making noise on the field. He can produce the kind of hits that get you noticed. He would probably be my choice above Hewitt, Mike Hull or Zach Vigil.

At the WR position I think it would have to be between Christion Jones and Damarr Aultman. I've seen them both on tape and Aultman reminds me a lot of Troy Brown. But Jones probably has a background that translates better and more quickly into immediate production in the NFL preseason. Jones is pure short striding agility, quintessential returner type.

The other guy to watch out for, one of my favorite UDFAs overall, is DL Ray Drew. I'm curious how they're going to use him but he can really excel as an interior rusher. Good size/strength/explosiveness combination. If he gets playing time in preseason situations where the other team has to start passing to try and come back on the scoreboard, and the Dolphins have Ray Drew rushing the interior in those situation, fair chance you see him make some splash plays.

There have been posters on here that like OL Michael Liedtke a lot. I have no opinion.

 

I'm pulling for Tim Semisch to unseat Arthur Lynch at 3rd TE, we already know Cameron and Sims are locks at 1 and 2.

 

Tim Semisch has good body control and movement but ultimately he's slow as molasses. I'm not a fan of Arthur Lynch but at least he brings some really good wing blocking to the table. I'm not sure what to expect out of Semisch.

 

I'm not a big fan of four-star and three-star recruiting as an indicator of future pro potential, but five-star recruiting is different. I pay attention to those, and that's what kind of prospect Jeff Luc was coming out of high school. He got caught up in a Florida State linebacking unit that was stacked with legitimate pro linebackers, guys like Nigel Bradham, Christian Jones, Vince Williams and Telvin Smith. All of them are pros and some of them are already standouts (Nigel Bradham and Telvin Smith). Luc went off to Cincinnati because things weren't working out at Florida State, took a year getting into the rotation and getting used to the new defense, and became one of the most productive linebackers in the country in his second year playing there.

That's really not a terrible track to be coming from. Pros come from that background. He's a 6'1" & 256 lbs wrecking ball and that's what Coyle loves at that MLB position. And Luc is definitely a run-and-hit guy. He's got legit 4.6 speed. He can chase plays from his spot in the middle all the way to the sideline. So I think like I said there is a good chance that during the preseason he produces some memorable hits. I don't know if he's Mark Duffner's favorite but it wouldn't be a far stretch of the imagination to project Luc as the guy Kevin Coyle will take a shine toward.

 

Not signing Huron was Irelands biggest mistake. I mean sure, Saban stepped over a sure thing, but Jeffy really missed that one.

 

just when i thought i couldn´t get any more excited for camp, you came in and ruined it....lol...jesus christ 9 more days

 

damn man I just watched drew make four consecutive plays, 3 tackles and a blocked field goal...really cool.

Duffer said ""luc has good movement skills", which is something I've been talking about but it seems that most think he's stiff and lacks agility...I disagree...dude can run when he wants to.

 

Now you're just sounding like LBsFinest.

 

Except that he's right.

JH would have broken all receiving and return records as a rookie...

Then broken them again all subsequent years...

smh

 

I was going to try to work in a grandmother, prostitute, or both reference, but I figured the Saban one was enough.

 

He does perfectly fit the bill of an old, scraggly, disloyal whore with a Napoleon complex.

 

The UDFA LB's are my biggest watch priority this pre-season. Even if only one of the three show promise, that's still a big win.

 

Plus, that speed, though! He outran Usain Bolt, but ESPN doesn't want to talk about it!

 

To be fair it was only once and it wasn't even in the Olympics.

I am impressed however, that he actually managed to steal Bolt's girlfriend shortly after the race.

 

Luc, at his very best, will become another Tim Dobbins. Dobbins played several years in the NFL and made a few bucks but was never really effective..

He was fast and destructive like a train, but when it has to go off it's tracks it just wrecks. He won't be capable of making open field tackles against RB's or slot receivers, not without help. He might make some highlight type plays on ST's when someone else forces the returner onto his train tracks.

 

I'd rather put Semisch on the PS for a couple years and offer the Jags Will Davis and a 7th for Mercedes Lewis. Lewis is one of the best blocking TE's in the league and he is still a red zone threat being 6.6 and a half and having a 37 inch vertical with a 265 pound frame.

 

I tend to agree with this. Based on the limited amount of tape I've seen of him, he just doesn't have that change of direction agility, and also he gets to the sideline a pace slower than what I'd like to see.

I'd like to see him lighter and more agile.

I went to the tape kind of expecting a Zach Thomas kind of nose for the ball, but he's just that little bit slower in diagnosing the offense and that little bit slower in getting there.

 

Ok, since I have only been around going on 1 year, can someone tell me the inside scoop on this Juan Huron character? I would like to understand this if it is a joke..lol...are we talking about the coffee guy? Lol

 

No.. That's Juan Valdez!

 

Lol..you are right of course...well I don't remember a Juan Huron and since lmeister said it...I can't tell if it is in a joking manner, or serious..lol

 

For those wondering rather a 6'0 230lb Linebacker can make a difference in the middle besides Zach,who was even shorter than that......anyone remember a player named Mike Singletary? Also, I am hoping that most of you do not sleep on Jeff Luc.....First saw him at 14....playing linebacker....this kid is going to make it in the NFL...We will have to wait and see...I know Duffner likes him a lot and it will have merit with Coyle, who besides knowing DB's really well, I think he needs to depend on position coaches regarding the other defensive positions....hopefully. I also like Hull and Vigil and I am hoping that all 3 of them earn a spot.

 

I turned off sigs a long time ago, but when I had them on, I remember that someone had a picture of a kid, maybe ten years old, with that name as theirs. I never really understood, and figured that it was the son of the poster.

 

Thanks

 

It goes way back to the Finheaven days. It was this kid who used to post over there who posted a thread asking if we think he had a legit chance to play WR for the Dolphins. He was serious too, giving us his 40 yd dash times and how he was the best player in his little league. It made for some good laughs.

That and the notion of moving Zach Thomas to Strong Safety.

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He is who I thought of as well watching his tape.

 

Dionte Savage, guard prospect...

 

I forget who it turned out to be, but a poster admitted it was him playing a joke. Probably the entire reason it became a thing was because of this picture he posted that was supposed to be him:



Not to mention the posts themselves were pretty funny, and the reaction by the posters was ruthless.

 

I had a feeling that was the case but I was never really sure. Nonetheless, it was a great joke that is still carried on today lol.

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While I agree on the part that Luc has some deficiencies, I disagree with the conclusion that you think he's the next Tim Dobbins - with respect to impact. Right now, we have Koa Misi in the middle, who is a nice MLB that does many things okay, but really fails to do any one particular thing really well. That's not the kind of guy I want in the middle of my defense, especially given his injury history. Luc can come in and man the MLB behind Suh, Mosley and Philips and give us a defense that no one will be running against. He also looks like he could be an upgrade an rushing the QB (over Misi) when called upon. So, I'll take the advantages of Luc that gives us a great run stopping defense and then just take him out in nickel and dime packages on obvious passing downs.

[EDIT] on top of that, guy looks like a sure tackler, certainly way better than Koa Misi.

 

I haven't watched much of Luc or any of the LBs, but philosophically I would think that a smaller, fast and instinctive MLB would thrive behind our DL. You generally want the size so he can shed blocks and work through the trash. But if the DL is eating up double teams and there isn't much trash to work through then what you want is somebody who gets there fast. To me that means instincts (above all) and then speed and obviously tackling ability. Big hits will get the fans excited but great instincts is what I want to see.

I also imagine that teams will attack us with quick passes to the outside so a LB that can play sideline to sideline would help defend against that.

 

I don't disagree that teams will attack us with a lot of the quick passes to the outside, I just don't see a MLB on our roster that will be able to impact that beyond our moderate expectations for either Luc or Misi. I'd rather take a chance on Luc so we won't be missing tackles that are run off-tackle (I don't see a lot of running through our DTs). I cringe everytime I see Misi go to tackle a RB.

 

Like I said, I haven't watched much of these guys but based on the descriptions and the little I've seen Vigil and Newit (sp?) seem to be smaller, faster guys that could attack sideline to sideline. I'd rather take a chance on that type than on LBs with more questionable movement skills.