"We're hungry to win a Super Bowl"... Ryan Tannehill..

I think we ALL deserve a season where we are winning games by halftime by a large margin. It will keep some of us healthier to not have to have cardiac finishes almost every week for once...Lol..I don't need any additional stress to my heart and arteries.

 

I wish they'd create a team in London.. put them in our division and call them .. the London Redcoats!

Redcoats vs. Patriots.

 

Love this.

 

But then we'd have to either root for the Pats or Redcoats, both of which seems wrong.

There should be a team in our division that is called the Rulebooks. That way, maybe, the Rulebooks will beat the Pats once and awhile.

 

For alignment purposes way back when they did this, I don't see how or why we were not put in the AFC South.Yes, we would have lost most of our rivalries but we could have formed New ones..in state rival kinda with Jacksonville already, we had a strong rivalry with Colts while in the east together and Tn. Would be a nice rivalry game also. This suggestion has nothing to do with the Patriots dominance for awhile now in the east...We owned the east for a very long time..it would just make it easier to get to more games is all.

 

This team has somehow suckered me into thinking they might just have turned the corner.

 

I think they have. Fans can be all kinds of things (impatient, overly optimistic, etc..), but they tend to be good at identifying the weaknesses of their team.

Who thinks the FO is a weakness? A few may be unconvinced by Tannenbaum/Hickey, but there is no tsunami of criticism like we had with Ireland. We've attracted some of the best FA's at key positions with this FO, and the draft is no longer the roulette wheel we used to have in the first two rounds.

And the range in which most of us put Tannehill is around 10-15 in the league, which is way higher than for any other QB since Marino (excepting Pennington in that one year). And the great majority of us don't think Tannehill has hit his ceiling (he'll rise naturally just through the retirement of some QB's too). QB being of such outsized importance should alone change your perception of where this team is.

Most also think the roster is fairly solid. Maybe one more good draft is needed to fill it out, but the point is we have one of the more talented rosters in the league, and that's something most NFL commentators agree with. Having a major positional weakness at OG, and lesser ones at CB/LB (until proven otherwise by the new guys) is fairly common in the NFL, so that alone isn't a reason to think we won't be competitive.

The ONLY major weakness of this team that keeps popping up is Philbin. Some are kinder to him than others, but he's the only target of much vile around here. Compare this to past years, add in the fact that neutral parties like Vegas (after Suh) think we're more likely to have 9 wins than 8 (barely, but it's the first time in a long time), and yeah I think it's likely we've turned the corner.

 

Based on past history, the Rulebooks might keep the Patriots dynasty going longer than we want!

 

I couldn't agree more!

I'm absolutely stoked to start watching this team and how it gels. I really can't wait for week 1 to get here.

 

The Colts aren't a great team Deej. They are in a crap division. The last time we played Luck, we beat them don't forget. They got better, but so did we.

 

Ok?

 

Well...let's put it this way, the Dolphins are going to have to go through the Indianapolis Colts at some point if they want to have any sort of real Play-off success.

As Brady and Manning move into the realm of washed up and eventually retire, it's going to Roethlisberger, Flacco, Tannehill and Luck as the four best AFC quarterbacks.

So if this team is really serious about contending for a Super Bowl, they're going to have to out-class those teams and in the case of Indy, it will probably require winning on the road because Indy looks like it's going to be a 12-win team for a long time with that offense in that division.

 

LOL 90% of the people here would be happy just making the playoffs. It's become the new norm because the superbowl is so far from here that most dont even want to think about it. To depressing

 

You're thinking of the 2012 rookie battle between Luck and Tannehill in Indy. We won played them again in 2013 in Indy as well and Tannehill outplayed Luck and we won.

I agree though Luck is scary good

I was lucky enough to go to the 2012 game and Luck threw 440 yards I think, he was amazing. Dansby did drop an interception that would have all but sealed a win or Jabar Gaffney dropping an easy first down that killed a potential go ahead drive.

 

Winning season?

Whats a winning season do for you, unless of course it involves the super-bowl???

The object is to win the super-bowl. Your either first or your last. Pretty simple concept . We havn't won since 1973, 42 years and counting. Pathetic really.

 

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I love his confidence. This hopefully will spill over to his teammates and they start believing that it's possible. It is possible and I hope they show the NFL that they belong there.

 

Mark my words, the 2015/2016 season will be the start of the Tannehill versus Luck rivalry... they'll face each other twice, once during the regular season and again in the playoffs... it'll be the new version of Brady/Manning.

 

We are headed in the right direction. Not sure of the role certain people are going to play given their importance.

To me, it seems like we actually have a professional at the helm in Mike Tannenbaum.

That is obvious with the roster shake up. Now the question is what to do with Philbin. Is he the guy or the face of the FRANCHISE because there is nothing or nobody else willing to just follow orders?? Or is he cool with it?? which seems to be the structure at his time. There is a reason Philbin sat idolly by when they signed Suh and others. The message was he is the coach not talent guy. Been there done that. Lots of structures like that in the NFL.

Not sure if this is what Philbin's idea of being the coach and what he signed up for. It's limited power. Is he ok with it. We will see as time goes on. What goes on behind closed doors is hard to judge. Remember Jimmy Johnson leaving like he did, or SATAN?

 

What qualifies as a high level for you? I ask, because until the injuries to Albert & Delmas we were competing at a high level.

 

I'll buy that. I could see that becoming a playoff rivalry. We have to win each time of course.

 

No, he did not go crazy..We should have beat them at their house..We had lead most of game and a late interception did us in. I respect Luck but I am not afraid of him or his team. Also, Tannehill outplayed Luck in both games.

 

Yes, he actually did...He just did not throw for as many yards...Man I don't know Deej when you will start at least respecting our QB....just watch him this year and keep in mind that Lazor wants Ryan throwing first and foremost. I really believe that now in year two, in Lazor's offense, he will be calling several more RO plays per game, and as awesome as most of them were last year, just wait til this year when the offense is clicking on all cylinders.

 

Some of you guys have mentioned it before, and it nags at me a bit also. The one thing I struggle with regarding Tannehill has been his presence. He doesn't come off (to this point) as highly confident. He doesn't get fired up and make you know that he's gonna get his no matter what. Maybe he's too smooth and leveled, and that's just his demeanor. I think that's what makes some people say he's not the guy. I think back to my favorite QBs throughout the years (Marino, Favre, one or two others maybe) and they had that...in spades. I'm not comparing him to those guys in total, that would be unfair, just pointing out that one trait.

There's nothing that says a QB has to act that way to win, but it emanates and can be contagious...certainly earns fans and builds fan confidence it would seem. Is it unfair to want less of the level-headed, Joe Cool character and more of the, "go ahead, just TRY and stop me" attitude?

He's steadily improved, and everything seems to be pointing toward another improvement in 2015, so maybe in the end that trait really doesn't matter, for HIM specifically. I mean, if it doesn't change one bit and they have success in the post-season, who cares right? This is year 2 in the Lazor offense, and from what we're hearing so far, even though it's only OTAs, is that he's sharp and showing comfort in the system. Maybe that's what he needs to show a little more moxie. Or maybe he just goes about being his normal cool-headed self even with improved play. I'll be looking for that this year personally.

 

I don't really think that fire is in him. Those are more personality issues than confidence per se, so I don't think it will suddenly develop as he matures into a very good "Joe Cool" type of QB. I don't think opponents will fear him leading our team to a game-winning TD/FG at the end as some QB's (like Marino) were feared to do. But as you said.. he doesn't need to be that for us to be a very good team and win the SB.

 

I am not the least bit aggravated or pissed...sometimes my memory is not as good..hope it don't happen to you in 20 years...Well at least we get him in our house this year and we can see what happens..so we are 1up...this just might be the QB that Suh breaks in half..Lol.

 

I think what hurts is when you're exposed to such a rush as a rookie. If you gradually get used to it (maybe the OL in your rookie season is OK, but years later it's really bad), you have a chance to learn how to calmly deal with the issue.

We saw what happened with Carr. I was really afraid that would happen to Tannehill, but I gotta give that guy credit for being mentally tough so far. The other issue is seeing "ghosts". Had fear of that too, but it seems like he's doing well. Really happy to see the bad OL hasn't created bad habits with Tannehill.

 

I agree. The goal should be to become a perennial contender, ie. making the playoff regularly first. That can be accomplished by having a good team. That's something that's controllable. Winning the SB itself usually involves both skill and luck. The luck is not a factor that can be controlled. The best you can do is put your team in position to capitalize when luck bounces your way. A perennial contender is a team that puts itself in that position frequently.

 

That comes from him actually having the track record of doing that on a consistent basis, not fire, IMO. I do think he will eventually get to that point where opponents will fear him in those situations.

 

I think you generally fear any veteran QB that doesn't look like he's rattled by the moment. It's actually those particular situations that generally highlight the advantages to being a veteran. I mean, I don't fear Joe Flacco in the 1st or 2nd quarter. What I fear is Joe Flacco late in the game because I know he's not afraid of slinging it around...same with Matt Stafford. I didn't fear guys like Chad Pennington early in the game as much as I did late, because when the game hinges on a single play, guys like Pennington weren't going to make that mistake that gave you a chance.

At some point, it's okay to just have the veteran presence to not make a mistake and continue putting the ball out there for your WRs and TEs to work with. At some point, just having that consistency and confidence to keep doing your thing late in the game is what actually becomes advantageous.

There's certainly only a few historically great guys in the class with Marino, Elway, Brady, Rodgers, etc. who scare you for an entire 60 minutes. Tannehill is probably never getting to that level but that only makes him like the vast majority of other QBs, both good and bad.