Philbin's map leads to medicrity. Giving way too much credit to our incompetent coach. Rush development? Without Ellerbe's injury Jenkins would still be a backup. The fact that we had a player in Chris McCain who was rated #1 OLB in Pre-Season and as you said Philbin knew Wheeler was inadequate makes his inability even more noticeable. I will take a "Pup Will Bite" coach because those guys win Championships. Who was Malcolm Butler before that play? Noone but BB trusted his player.... Something our coach needs to learn to do when.
Apparently, last season wasn't good enough for many to agree with that. However, if Tannehill puts up even better numbers (doesn't even have to be by that much) in 2015, then there will be NO defense for the argument he's just a game manager IMO.
Dupree, I don't get it. People so quickly anoint Buffalo and yet can't give specifics on where they match up better??? T-Hill has made it in terms of proving he belongs in NFL, he hasn't made anything in my mind until he takes us to the Playoffs. But, he is not Average, that is foolish. He has progressed each year in the league despite the worst OL in the NFL the past two years, and he had his best year in year 1 of a new offense.
I am a Rex Ryan fan but let us not forget he did get fired, and while FO screwed him over there he also seems to not have learned his lesson on a QB driven league. He hasn't coached a game for that team so we will see how he does.
I think the Jets made a huge mistake firing him. His team had almost zero talent and didn't have the cornerbacks needed to run his scheme. Yet, they didn't give up and played hard all season. Also, without a first round pick, who are they going to get a quarterback?
I didn't miss the season. I am just not as sold on Tannehill as others seem to be. Instead of signing him to a new contract, I would prefer that they just pick up the fifth year of his contract and see how he performs next season. If he continues to progress as an NFL QB, they can always sign him to a new contract after the end of next season. As far as the owner being sold on Tannehill. Do I have to remind you that he is also the same owner who was sold on Ireland being a GM and Philbin being a head coach? As far as comparisons between the Bills and the Dolphins is concerned. 1) The Bills have a far better overall defense at this time. They are every bit as strong on their defensive line as the Dolphins, and in fact might be better. 2) They were without Alonso all last season and their LB's were still much better than the Dolphins LB's. 3) I would take their secondary over the Dolphins any day of the week. On offense 1) I'll take their WR's over the Dolphins. 2) At RB, I'll take McCoy over Miller and right now the Dolphins don't have much behind Miller. 3) To me, Clay and Cameron are about equal as TE's. 4) While the Bills don't have a great OL, as you pointed out, the OL of the Dolphins gives up a lot of sacks. So if push comes to shove, I'll take the Bills OL over the Dolphins. As far as FG kickers, I'll take the former Dolphin Carpenter over Sturgis. Sturgis has been a major disappointment in my opinion. Probably the biggest advantage is at the head coaching position. While I am not one of those who thinks Ryan is a great head coach. I feel he is a lot better than Philbin and it always seems Ryan's players want to play for him. I just don't get the feeling Dolphin players are that invested in playing for Philbin. As Odrick stated on his way out of town. There just isn't much energy in the coaching staff of the Dolphins and I think all of us have seen how this team and coaching staff falter when the pressure goes up. All things considered, if the Bills an find just an average QB to lead them this coming season, I see them easily finishing 2nd in the AFC East and if the Patriots falter at all next season, it would not surprise me at all if the Bills win the division.
We are 2-4 vs the Bills since 2012. Mainly bc they've been able to dominate our OL and smother our quick pass game w aggressive coverage schemes. Imo they'll continue to have an advantage until we can control the LOS and run the ball more consistently. Three trips to Buffalo under Philbin and IIRC a total of 20 pts scored. That's before Ryan came aboard...
Not a mistake, replaced him with a up and coming coach. He went 4-12 and hadn't been back to the Playoffs since 2010. Zero Talent? Hmm.... The have a very talented DL. Good LB's. Yes, their secondary was shambles. But to say they had no talent is an overreacting. Agree on that last point 110% though, no way this team would do that for Failbin
Well no NFL team has zero talent. However their offense was put together with glue and sticks. I do think it was a mistake. They did a good job with his replacement.
Fine with that point but again you called him a game manager.... and average. Ross is Ross but he appointed Mr. T to let him do his thing, and Mr. T loves RT17, half the reason he failed in NY was because of lack of quality QB and he see's that now. Unless Ryan has an awful year I expect him to be here for a very long time and thank god for that. 1. Bills far better? DLine = in terms of starting 4 I would take the Bills cause they are PROVEN. I think you will be pleasantly suprised what the addition of Suh will mean for his teammates in terms of production. In terms of depth we are in much better shape. Going 5 deep in terms of pass rushers. 2. Well, as stated before we had Wheeler playing... anything will be an upgrade. We also had a MLB who was in an out of every game. Still, you cannot sit there and tell me if we add a LB we can't be better. Preston Brown/Nigel Bradham what? 3. I'll ask you this who is better Grimes or Gilmore? Aaron Williams or Reshad Jones? I will say McKelvin has proved more than what Jamar Taylor has... but think we could see that change. We did just add McCain who should give us a boost at Nickel but I very much like Robey for them. There is not much if any huge difference between the two. If Taylor steps up and Grimes stays solid I like ours. Offense: 1. Harvin has been castoff from last few teams. Maybe I'm crazy but while Watkins has talent I don't think he'll end up being a Top 5 WR from his own class. His former teammate Nuk Hopkins is a far superior WR. Again, we aren't done adding WR's so it's tough to rate this group. Adding Stills is huge for us. Oh and again WR's are only as good as the QB's throwing it to them. Lot of ?'s for Bills unit just as ours. 3. One is a Pro Bowler the other isn't. Both have injury concerns. One is 6'5" Red Zone target. The other just got paid more money than Gronk/Graham... stop it. Look at the unit we have better top end guy when healthy and our backup is ascending. 4. With Albert healthy it's a different unit in terms of pass protection. But stats speak for themselves and we have been terrible past two years. Sturgis is gross literally should've been cut a long time ago. Ryan is a defensive coach who never learned that the league is shifting to offense while in NYJ. While he's been aggressive since taking over nothing yet has convinced me he has learned. I think that feeling may be for the HC, but I do think the offense get's excited for RT17 and Lazor. I don't care who they play for as long as its hard. And thankfully we are making smart decisions.
Whatever effect of Wallace's drawing coverage you were talking about. How much do you figure the other players on offense benefitted from that?
The front office screwed Ryan by never giving him any offensive talent and the worst rated starting QB in the NFL. He proved when he has a very average Mark Sanchez as a game manager and an average offense with a strong running game in his first two years with the Jets. Give him that and a solid defense and he can get his team into the playoffs. Right now the Bills have a defense which is probably better than what Ryan had the two years he led the Jets to the AFC championship game. They have much better skill position players than he ever had with the Jets. So it will all come down to whether or not he can find a QB who can function as well as Sanchez did his first two years with the Jets. As far as Ryan being fired from the Jets is concerned. Belicheck was fired from the Browns because he couldn't win enough games with the QB's the GM gave him to work with. Yet once he became the head coach of the Patriots and developed Brady into one of the best QB's in the history of the game, he is now considered a coaching genius.
That team also had the number-one running game, and the number-one defense in the NFL that year. Any team with an average-level QB would've performed comparably.
Rex Ryan was in love with Mark Sanchez. Both he and Tannenbaum were on board with trading to draft Sanchez, and Ryan was very clear about thinking Sanchez was the QB that would take the Jets to the SB. So the FO didn't screw Ryan over (at least with respect to Sanchez).. he was part of that decision. Also, your first sentence about Sanchez being (one of) the worst rated starting QB's is correct, but you can't turn around after that and tell me he was an "average game manager", especially when you call Tannehill a "good game manager". Sanchez was BAD (way below average is more correct).
