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Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by alen1, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Gabriel apparently quit this weekend. I guess the WWE pulling him from the Rumble was the final straw for him.

    Also, Rock is in Philly and will be at The a Rumble tonight.

    The latest is that there won't be too many "ECW" guys in the Rumle as Kevin Dunn is opposed to it. We may get someone like RVD, but that is about it.

    Sheamus is supposedly not there, either. But I get the feeling that he will be a surprise entrant. I could possibly see Mysterio, as well, if they were able to settle their differences, silently.

    Hadn't heard anything about The Dudleys, but I seem to recall that Bubba was pretty far down the road about going back to TNA, so if they showed up tonight, that would be pretty big news.

    And them Dudely Death Dropping The Ascension after they disposes of The New Age Outlaws would be a ton of fun. Have them murder Billy and Road Dogg, then get on the mic about how no team from the past can touch them, and then you hear the bomb drop...and Philly loses their minds.
     
  2. Samphin

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    Also, I am going to pick Bryan to win The Rumble and face Brick at WM. Why? Because I will be there and that is want I want to see. And secondly, this was supposed to be the SummerSlam main event before Bryan got hurt, so the fact that it is on them table to do it it at WM would be terrific.
     
  3. shamegame13

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    Wish I could be there... I live in area, wish I had gotten tix. Oh well, ill enjoy it from comforts of my home. Have fun bro. Go DB!
     
  4. Samphin

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    I think WM tickets are still on sale. Get it!
     
  5. wpgfishfan

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    Any reliable links besides wwe network?
     
  6. Ray Finkle

    Ray Finkle Member

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    Fantastic Triple Threat match after 3 eh matches to open the PPV. Unfortunately for people , myself included,,who want Bryan to win the Rumble I think we are all going to be disappointed. Should be fun to see the Philly crowd crap all over Reigns if/when he wins though.
     
  7. Ray Finkle

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    What a complete an utter disaster this Royal Rumble was. So predictable how the fans would react to it. The crowd completely died once Bryan was eliminated, especially so early in the match. Seriously the crowd had zero reactions, just stupid booking. Honestly this was one of the worst and lackluster Royal Rumble matches in history. It would be the worst Rumble PPV of all time if the Triple Threat match wasn't on the card.

    And what was the purpose of Rock even coming out for that? Typical WWE, they have zero clue what the fans want. They can't honestly think after hearing the reaction to Reigns it was a good idea. It's almost like they didn't pay any attention to what happened last year at the Rumble. Ugh.
     
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  8. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Not even The Rock could win that crowd over.....
     
  9. JShady

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    What happened? I'm hearing from everyone that it sucked.
     
  10. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    final four was Big Show, Kane, Ambrose, and Reigns. Daniel Bryan was eliminated very early which killed the crowd for the rest of the match.

    Rock came out after the match to protect Reigns from Show and Kane....crowd wasn't buying it at all.
     
  11. JShady

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    Ouch....that is one ****ty Rumble, don't blame anyone now for hating it
     
  12. Ray Finkle

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    Only good match was the Triple Threat Match, the other matches belonged on an episode of "Superstars" or "Main Event". The Rumble match itself was fun in the beginning with Bubba returning, Wyatt Family fighting with each other, DDP nailing everyone with Diamond Cutters but once Bryan got eliminated pretty early in the match the crowd was deflated and pretty much sat in silence except to boo Reigns every move and give cheers to Ziggler and Ambrose. Even The Rock after the initial pop was met with eh. The crowd completely turned on Reigns booing him aka Batista last year.

    Overall just a crappy PPV to start 2015. If Lesnar is truly leaving the WWE after WM, the Reigns/Lesnar match at WM this year could make the Lesnar/Goldbeg match at WM20 look like Flair/Steamboat based on the fans reactions. Yikes.
     
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  13. shamegame13

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    This^^^^

    What a horrible ending to the Rumble.. I can only hope Rollins cashes in right after Reigns wins at WrestleMania. Reigns has the personality of a dead moth and 3 moves (a clothesline, superman punch, and cliche spear). This is why I hate the WWE. The way it is run now a days is absolutely pathetic. Great Triple Threat Match, still predictable but the Rollins spots were awesome. Moving on to the predictable WM where Reigns will get his *** kicked the whole match only to hit an easy to do Superman Punch and boring Spear to win the match.

    Horrible Rumble.

    P.S. If I could send a message to the WWE its this: Just because a guy is Samoan, it doesn't automatically mean he is the next "Rock". Rock had a great personality and charisma even though he wasn't the most gifted in ring wrestler. Reigns has no charisma/personality and can't wrestle. All he has is a decent build.
     
  14. Section126

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    I enjoyed the Rumble....except for the finish....

    first of all...we are not stupid.

    Curtis Axle never made it to the ring...so that leaves a rub for somebody to take up 5 minutes to shine........

    Rowan did not take those 5 min.

    Reigns is not ready, and they are pushing him into the WM main event anyway......bad booking.

    Bray Wyatt, Rusev (Micheal Cole blew the call on him...) Bryan, Dolph...all would have made better matches for Brock.


    If they want any credibility about how they book.....Brock Lesnar leaves WM as champ.....Roman reigns is nowhere deserving, or ready.
     
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  15. Samphin

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    That Triple Threat Match made Rollins. That was his Edge moment where he broke through to stay, I think. Just a tremendous match.

    Ascension beating NAO handily, was the right move. I am not sure it needed to be on PPV, but the Rumble match always stretches the rest of the roster pretty thin.

    The tag team titles match was okay. I am impressed at how consistently over the Usos are, considering their act is pretty generic and vanilla, as far as baby faces go. They just have that IT factor, I guess.

    The Divas match was not good, and if you count the pre-show match, made it four tag team matches in a row.

    The Rumble match itself was interesting to me because the first half was shaping up to seemingly, a fun finale. Bray Wyatt looked great, the return of Bubba Ray (hopefully full time), a couple of fun surprises with DDP, as well as a nicer ecord setting moment for Kane/Big Show who are on the downside of their careers and as such, were given nice accomplishments in what is probably one of their last Royal Rumble matches.

    But the mas-handling of Bryan was...oof. Whether eliminated him early, I figured they were trying to get him out of there so that his elimination didn't temper the pop for The Rock winning later.

    But there was no Rock...just Roman. And doing that in Philly was asking for trouble. I am sure WWE will chalk it up to the bizarro world that is a philly crowd...but I think they have a real problem on their hands, and I am not sure they can fix it this year. When even The Rock can't salvage it...you have a bonafide problem. The crowd was literally asking for Rusev to win once he was th at remaining option. The only way to fix it, I think, is to have Rollins cash in after Reigns wins. And even then, Rollins will get cheered.

    So I am not sure what Wrestlemania will be beyond the top three matches, now.

    Lesnar vs. Reigns
    HHH vs. Sting
    Cena vs. Rusev (set up after the Rumble)
    Orton vs. Rollins?
    What do you do with Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose, Wyatt (Undertaker?), Harper and others?

    And you know Sheamus is returning shortly, which I think is a good thing right now, considering that there doesn't seem to be too many intriguing, logical stories for the guys above. He at least makes for a nice dance partner for someone.

    Maybe turning Ambrose heel to face Ziggler or Bryan is best.

    I also would be okay with Cesaro/Kidd taking aim at The Usos. I dig their little faction they have with Adam Rose (The Brass Ring Club).
     
  16. shamegame13

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    I am a little deflated (excuse my patriots pun) from tonight. If it wasn't for the Triple Threat match and the beginning of the Rumble, I would be mad that I chose to watch this over the Pro Bowl (which is a joke of a game, so that should tell you something).
     
  17. Ray Finkle

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    RAW will be interesting tomorrow considering it's going to be taking place in the middle of a blizzard in Connecticut, if it happens at all. I had free tickets to the show and was considering going but not anymore because of the winter. Too bad since Brock was going to be there.

    Word is the WWE Network will be free in February to try and get subscriptions for WM and beyond. After tonight I wonder how many people will be canceling.
     
  18. shamegame13

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    I cancelled, I also witnessed my friend cancel. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I'm done, I will watch RAW here and there but they won't be getting any more money from me. It's like me going to a store that used to have great milk back in the day, but the milk is spoiled now but I keep going back and buying it, hoping it will be like the milk I used to have in the old days but it never happens as it's still spoiled. I'm only disappointing myself by continuing to buy this horrible product.
     
  19. Samphin

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    I really do see Rollins cashing in at WM. It makes way too much sense, at this point.

    Have him lose to Orton earlier in the night, then Dom he cash in, and you immediately have two built in feuds with Ortn demanding a title shot and Roman wanting his re-match. Plus, you always have Ambrose and Bryan that you can put up against him too.
     
  20. shamegame13

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    #CancelWWENetwork is trending right now.
     
  21. Samphin

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    Yeah. Their cancel page is crashing due to heavy demand.

    Unreal.
     
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  22. shamegame13

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    Hey, its the bed WWE made, now they gotta sleep in it. Having said that, Rollins is hands down the future of that company. If they were smart they would figure out a way to book him into the WM match with Brock and Roman and have him win it. I know it would have a similar feel to last year but it would appease the fans a little more. I mean, WWE is just a butcher shop right now, nobody want's to see this garbage.
     
  23. Ray Finkle

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    You would think that would be a huge wake up call to them to get their act together and actually give the fans, their paying customers, what they actually want but I'm sure all it will do is pissed Vince and company off and keep shoving Reigns down our throats more.

    I do feel bad for Reigns, he doesn't deserve all this hate but he's clearly just not ready. And the WWE isn't doing him any favors.
     
  24. Samphin

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    WWE needs to go into damage mode pronto. They will need to figure a way to get a rub onto Roman quickly. The best I can think or right now is to have Roman make some saves on Bryan/Ambrose/Ziggler and possibly team with them to try and get some off their run transferred on to him. Pop through association, if you will.

    Maybe also run some pieces on Roman that show more of his personal life. Try to get the audience to identify with him some.

    And have Heyman talk like he has never talked before, and maybe your an salvage this.
     
  25. Jt0323

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    I get why they had Bryan lose so quickly I really do, but boy did that take everything out of this match. The ending was very predictable.
     
  26. Samphin

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    Bryan and Lesnar would have been such a great Main Event too. Bryan selling and bumping his *** off for Brock, only to finally end the reign of terror would have been amazing.
     
  27. shamegame13

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    Well, what do you expect? WWE is run by a bunch of **** tards. They need to get their heads out of their *** ASAP or it will be a miserable 2015 in the WWE world.
     
  28. Jt0323

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    also this Royal Rumble only had 29 participants, Axel never entered. Makes no sense
     
  29. Samphin

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    People read too much into that. Plenty of Rumbles have had stuff like this before. In fact, in one Rumble, Mick Foley was a participant three different times. Axel was just there to get Rowan his angle. Although, it would have made more sense just to put Rowan in the match proper and do the exact same angle, but I digress.
     
  30. shamegame13

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    Yea, it was strange how it went down, but after Boogeyman came out I was under the impression that Rowan took his spot when he got thrown over the top rope and I didn't see Axel on the ramp anymore, although it was still strange, the announce table did a terrible job in a couple of instances and that was one of them. They should of done a better job guiding the televised audience in that situation as we arent seeing the whole arena/ramp like the fans in the arena are.
     
  31. Ray Finkle

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    I think the main issue with all the Reigns hate is that he's not ready and people know it and he's not Daniel Bryan. I think the WWE really screwed up by having Bryan even in the Rumble. I get why they did it (to get people interested in the product again and try and get people to subscribe to the Network), but if they weren't going to have Bryan win the Rumble they should have held him out until after it.

    I honestly don't think there's anything the WWE can do about it to save the match, outside taking Reigns out of the match somehow and putting Bryan in it. Like you said the Brock/Bryan match literally writes itself, it's such an incredibly easy storyline to write/tell plus the match would be great.

    The Reigns/Lesnar match is going to be a train wreck, poor Reigns. When a veteran like Orton gets shook by a crowd imagine what someone as green as Reigns will do.
     
  32. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah like Samphin said there have been a bunch of Rumbles when they only had 29 guys or they had a tag team of stable enter at the same time giving the Rumble more than 30 guys, or someone took another wrestler's spot etc. Not a big deal except it shows you where Axel stands with the WWE. I don't get why they even had Rowan lose his spot on Smackdown if they were just going to put him in anyway.
     
  33. Vengeful Odin

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    You can add me to the list of folks who voiced their displeasure by canceling their subscription. I did it this morning right after I woke up. Then I started seeing that I wasn't the only one who had made that decision. #CancelWWENetwork is the #2 trend in the US right now. Apparently it was #1 worldwide last night. For a company that talks about Social Media nonstop, I suspect we won't hear about that on RAW tonight.

    It's frustrating because I really like the distribution model, price point, and concept of the Network. But man, this company is just so out of touch. It's like the mid 1990s all over again, only worse. I feel like at this point in time Vince has become the new Al Davis. He thinks he can continue to just push who he wants and doesn't understand why the fans won't buy into it. The entire premise of the Rumble seemed to be to troll the very people who support your product - from the dumping of Bryan early, to the dumping of guys like Wyatt, Ambrose, and Ziggler late in the match. Even the Rock - the freaking Rock - couldn't save that show. Just a big "FU" to the hardcore fans that support those guys.

    I guess he doesn't understand who is buying the Network - lapsed and hardcore fans like me and you - so the only way he will figure it out is if they lose a bunch of subscribers. I don't care if February is free; I'm out. Being a WWE fan is like being in an abusive relationship, and at this point I'm done going back for more.
     
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  34. shamegame13

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    Well said VO, im with ya, I was able to cancel before the crash yesterday.
     
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    I want to watch the Rumble match just so I can see DDP diamond cut some people and that's it. I have always liked him and I have a Autograph Leather Copy of his Book.

    WWE emailed me saying My Subscription Expired which it did because I only had last time it was free, This time I'm not even going to bother.
     
  36. Ray Finkle

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    Well said. Is there any other company in the world that consistently trolls their customers and mocks them? Imagine if American Airlines decided to take out all of their seats to their airplane and make people sit on the ground instead, you think they would be in business for long?

    It's funny because Vince and others in the company say all the time how they listen to their fans but clearly either they're out of touch (YES! YES! YES!), they just don't care (YES! YES! YES!) or both (YES! YES! YES!). And when they get chewed out on their next investor call about why the Network isn't still underperforming and best of all how many people cancelled the Network last night, I'd love to hear what they have to say for that.
     
  37. Ray Finkle

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    According to Meltzer the WWE changed plans for the Rumble multiple times yesterday and The Rock was reportedly unhappy with some of those changes. Also Vince doesn't want to include Bryan in the WM title match because it would be the same as last year and doesn't want to do it again. Word is that might make February a free Network month for fans.

    I'm not even mad anymore, I'm just going to sit back and laugh at all the backlash and I'm honestly now looking forward to seeing the Reigns/Lesnar match because of how bad it's going to be due to an unmotivated departing Brock against a green 3 move Reigns who the fans will completely boo out of the stadium. I'm telling you the Reigns/Brock match is going to make the Lesnar/Goldberg match look like Flair/Steamboat in comparison.
     
  38. Ray Finkle

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    Governor of CT just issued a travel ban for the entire state as of 9 pm tonight. Obviously this will factor into what happens with RAW tonight as it's in Hartford. I really wonder what's going to happen, if they even have RAW or what they would do if they didn't. Maybe replay the full Royal Rumble? Even if they do have RAW I doubt they would get many people to go. Tough break for the WWE.

    EDIT: Looks like the Smackdown taping tomorrow in Boston is all but cancelled and will be rescheduled for either Wednesday or Thursday which would be live.
     
  39. Vengeful Odin

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    The guy that ran Cena/Rock in consecutive years doesn't want to change his plan because it would be too "similar."

    He's really lost it.
     
  40. Ray Finkle

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    Not to mention the million times Cena and Orton wrestled each other at PPVs.

    But really Vince has always been that way, if he doesn't want to do something that the fans what he has an excuse and if he wants to do something the fans don't well he's simply listening to what the fans want.
     

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