Wow the dolphins don't even exist anymore.

We've never been media darlings. I'm okay with this.

OT: **** E$PN and their never ending efforts to neuter The Dan Lebatard Show.

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Please, if they are mentioning McCarron ahead of Tanny they are morons.

 

I don't know where Dolphin fans get the idea that Tannehill has a lot of respect outside of Miami. He doesn't.

The guy is the epitome of mediocrity. He will never be great, and that is just really obvious.

The Dolphins should have drafted Luke Kuechly, I was almost as disappointed then as when we drafted a center with the 15th pick in the draft the year before.

We are 8-8 forever with ross,Philbin,Coyle and Tannehill.

I almost had some hope with Hickey but then he blew the trade down in his first 1st round and now he has been castrated by the T-bomb hire.

 

As long as we have this regime and this owner this team might as well be in a black hole as far as the pundits perception .Tanny has the potential but the team cant seem to get a decent OL.

 

Yawn

 

He can still be coached to become a solid quarterback. A top 10 quarterback he is not though. Hell I would take Winston over Tannehll and he has not even played a down yet.

 

I agree with you. It is hard to say what Tannehill is capable of and equally difficult to be able to say he doesn't have it. How do we know for sure until he is in a different situation. All I know is when Marino entered the picture he seemed to get exponentially better. Then he leveled off. Is that scheme, Him or something else.

My perception is he put up north of 4000 yards. Only 10 other QB's bested that and the difference between 1rst and 11th (Drew Brees) is not that great if we make some simple adjustments. Brees had 69 more attempts then Ryan did.

Just an example if we take Ryan's avg per attempt 6.9 and multiply by the 69 more attempts that Brees had, the difference in yardage would only be 430 yards or 27 yrds a game.

Do the same with TD's. Tannehill avg's 1 td per 150 yrds of passing. Adjusting for the extra attempts and he would have had 30 td's instead of 27. Only 3 shy of #1 ranked Drew Brees.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=1&qualified=false&Submit=Go

It seems like perception is the problem for Ryan Tannehill and as my Name states "Perception is Reality"

Ryan Tannehill is a good QB in a bad situation. With different circumstances - the sky is the limit

 

.....What?

 

One Trillion thumbs down ..............Huh

 

You wait and see when the Buccs make the playoffs in their first season. I rather take a chance on a quarterback that might be great than continue the treadmill Tannehill has gone in both college and pro. Tannehill isnt a winner, and Winston already has a killing instinct trait that Tannehill has yet to develop.

 

LOL, are either one of you really suprised? Hell, we got people here who think Tebow would put us in a better position. I get it that people have opinions and agendas but really??!! People out of the league or not even drafted yet are better than 27 TD's 12 INT'S and 4000 yrds..yikes

 

Ok, I'm not too happy with all the moves that have been made, but really, without Tanny this team is worse than mediocre...Kuechly would have been a great addition to this or ANY team, but who'd our QB be ?? MMoore ?? Pouncey isn't exactly chopped liver either... What makes you think ANYONE would have traded down with us ?? You're living in a Madden world if you think things work like that... Way too harsh, despite the continuing mediocre-ness with this regime... One or two moves would not have lifted this team out of it's perpetual mediocrity...

 

What do you mean??

Did I miss something?? Tannehill has been professional, played well, shown a great attitude, and is a leader of Men.

Maybe the killer instinct you refer to is kneeling down on the ball with 2 minutes left in the half or feeling Quesy??

I thought you liked Tannehill??

 

Yeah, unless he was suspended with pay for raping some chick, which is more likely to happen with that thug than not happen....

 

If you adjust those number for attempts made Tannehill is in Drew Brees/Rothlesberger territory at the top of the list

 

the irrelevancy is because many different factors over a long period of time, the team collectively choked their way out of the playoffs against inferior opponents two years running, they have the worst percentage of viewership in their own market, their stadium was a joke, there is a miami perception that the national public doesn't like, and the qb hasn't not anything memorable since he got here.

credo my ***.

 

Stop that! He is a winner..Tannehill is not. Real easy to see...you must be blind. Again, are you really suprised at all.

 

I get the irrelevency. But is that Tannehill's Fault??

I mean the guy is given a play and told to run it. Even with this inept coaching staff he still managed to put up top 10 numbers. Tannehill is actually 11th, but 10/11 is so close he might as well be 10. I would love to see what he could do under a good coaching staff.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...xperience=&tabSeq=1&qualified=false&Submit=Go

I do know stats don't tell the whole story, but it is definitely a start

look who it is (#10)-------------------Tom Brady.

 

If Jameis Winston is there at 14 you RUN that pick to the podium. In two seasons that kid has shown consistent greatness and NFL QB traits that Tannehill hasn't since he started playing the position.

 

Winstons inability to play well for an entire game isnt going to cut it in the nfl. That "killing instinct" wont matter much when famous jameis has his team in a 20 point hole at halftime.

 

He won't last past No. 5 if he even gets that far.

 

If this regime has him as a CAN'T MISS without any doubts, and feel that they can't win with the current QB, then it is a no brainer. IMO, neither one of those are anywhere near the truth. With a lot of holes to fill, I see no way you take a QB in that spot...especially one that has some baggage, when you have a pretty good one in place already. And some baggage is putting it quite mildly.

 

It's posts like this when I wish we really had some kind of dislike button.

 

The same has been said Of RGIII and Ryan Leaf and Jamarcuss Russell and so on. They alll had issues and problems but were percieved as "Winners" and better than guys who were already in the league. The Mannings and Lucks and Rodgers are few and far between on this league. Winston may have alot of talent but has already shown to have a two cent head and little maturity. He is a problem just waiting to blow up. Yet you would rather roll the dice with him than Tannehill who has done nothing but work hard and get better each year? No need to even worry about it...he will be long gone by the time we pick.

 

I don't think this is true. Just some people's opinions maybe. I'll continue to make my own judgements.

 

FSU is the only team I love more than the Dolphins, Winston is one of my fave players ever. But..

Put the pipe down Smokey.

 

So do that for every QB, oh wait, you don't have to, there is a stat for that and its called yards per attempt. At yards per attempt Tannehill is ranked 28th.

And Andy Dalton fans probably should be much more peeved at this than you guys are...

P.S. Based on nothing but analytics I think McCarron does have a high potential to be great.

 

Prior to the 2012 draft, my desire was for the Dolphins to take Kuechly with the 8th pick in draft and then for the Dolphins to draft Russell Wilson with their second round pick.

If the draft had gone the way I hoped it would, the Dolphins would be a much better team at this time. They would have the best MLB in the league and also a QB who is much better than Tannehill.

 

Wilson wouldn't be Wilson if he played for the Dolphins.

 

Winston won't be there because he will probably end up being the first pick in the draft and will end up playing a couple of hundred miles north of Miami, in Tampa.

I think Lovie Smith will probably be just the type of head coach Winton will be able to play for. Winston's biggest issue at this time is immaturity. Once he grows up and stops acting like a jerk, he is going to be one of the top QB's in the NFL.

It might take him a couple of years to adjust to the NFL and gain the maturity he needs, but I suspect that within the next 3-5 years, he will be a much better NFL QB than Tannehill.

I see Tannehill as a decent QB who can lead his team to 8 or 9 victories a season, but not the type of QB who will ever be able to lead the team deep into the playoffs. He is okay for now but if the Dolphins ever expect to be a legitimate Super Bowl contender in the future, it will have to be with a QB who is much better than Tannehill, IMO.

 

Specially playing for Philbin!

 

We have no way of knowing what he would be in Miami since he doesn't play for the Dolphins, but he would still be a better QB than Tannehill.

Wilson is a better leader on the field and he makes plays when the game is on the line in the fourth quarter. Wilson also has pocket awareness which is something Tannehill severely lacks.

I thought Wilson was the better QB coming out of college and he has proved to be the better QB in his three years in the NFL.

 

a small percentage yes, if he's not being talked about amongst the pundits when the subject of the next great or good qb's come up then it's partly his fault for not putting anything in their mental radex to remember...when all you do is follow the script and the script doesn't do so well the Your irrelevant, do something on your own that's outside the script to win some games and you have a chance to be remembered

 

Same goes for Marcus but neither is gonna happen

 

Horsesh&&... Where do you get off saying that load, it doesn't matter where the hell he's playing, his football intellect would still be in tact, his improvasational qb'ing would still be the best in the league, his leadership would be exactly what we needed at the position, and just pure playmaking ability, all four of those things depend on NOONE but Russell Wilson, so pleeease stop Insulting some of our Intelligence, it makes you look like you don't know how to evaluate players... Maybe you don't with comments like that.

 

The statement that Wilson would be playing differently for the Dolphins than he is for the Seahawks can be neither confirmed nor denied. It's an unfalsifiable statement, and statements that are unfalsifiable are products only of the mind of the person making them, with no basis in objective fact. You can choose to argue with the person who made the statement, but in the end there will be no "winner," because there is no objective information that can definitively support or prove either side of the argument. It's a "battle of opinions," with no possible "winner."

 

j-dub, we absolutely know what we would have if Wilson wAs here, absolutely, that's the beauty of his game, you can isolate it so easily, it doesn't take any variables for him to not be what you see..

 

When you don't have a great QB, and when a potentially great QB is staring you in the face...you use a high pick on him. It's not about being "Can't miss"...it's about spending resources on guys who could become serious needle-movers. "Can't miss" hole filling leads to you taking OLinemen in the first round and spinning your wheels at 8 wins a season for a decade.

Can we win a decent amount of games with Tannehill? Obviously. But after three years we still have questions about whether he's good enough. In the NFL you need 'great' at the qb position, and at the moment we don't have it.

(And yes I understand Winston probably won't make it to 14. Just using this as an example for the mentality this organization has had/needs to have.)