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Jets game likely to be finale for several key Dolphins players

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CrunchTime, Dec 28, 2014.

  1. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    There is more .Its worth a read.Who is worth keeping and who should be let go.I would like to see Odrick and Clay retained but not at exorbitant contracts.The rest can go as far as I am concerned unless they sign for close to the minimum.They are partly responsible for the mediocre season IMO.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article5048268.html
     
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  2. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I'd add satele to your two good luck to the rest
     
  3. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I think Moreno should get one more look. The guy was having a hell of a season before the injury. On top of that, the injury was not detrimental to him as a running back. He should be brought back with Odrick and possibly Charles Clay.
    I'm also glad that Cameron Wakes name didn't come up. The fact that some people have suggested that he be moved is beyond ludicrous in my opinion. If one man deserves to be a Dolphin for life, it's him.
     
  4. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    Moreno played ONE GAME before his injury.

    That's a hell of a season?
     
  5. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    He clowned the Pats in the opener, so yes, yes it was.
     
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  6. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    I like Moreno and we need help at RB but he has proven to be injury prone. There will be plenty of RBs in the draft and FAs available.Its not a difficult position to fill.
     
  7. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    Adequate at C but he is not a good G .However I would keep him as Pounceys backup at close to the vet minimum which I think he would accept.
     
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  8. RoninFin4

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    I would only keep Satele if he's willing to be a backup; he shouldn't be starting. I'd also add Philip Wheeler to the list. He's hardly been used since calling out Kevin Coyle after the Packers game, and if Coyle is back and is serious about moving Dion Jordan to OLB, Philip Wheeler's spot is where Jordan would fit.
     
  9. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Colledge - CUT

    Matt Moore - KEEP

    Louis Delmas - CUT

    Jimmy Wilson - CUT

    Knowshon Moreno - KEEP only if cheap

    Daniel Thomas - CUT

    LaMichael James - Didn't see enough to know.

    Jared Odrick - KEEP if planning to let Starks go next year.

    Samson Satele - CUT

    Jason Fox - Don't care.

    Charles Clay - KEEP

    Jason Trusnik - KEEP

    Kelvin Sheppard - Irrelevant


    Brandon Gibson - CUT

    Brian Hartline - CUT

    Dannell Ellerbe - CUT

    Randy Starks - Trade if possible, as I'd let him walk after next year anyways.

    Shelley Smith - KEEP

    Nate Garner - CUT

    Cortland Finnegan - Sounds like he will cut himself and retire.
     
  10. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    I would roll with Moreno again, he was dominating when he did get a chance to play. Get him at the right price, put him in rotation with Lamar Miller and plug the holes on the OL and at DT. As per the offense, I'm looking forward to TE Arthur Lynch playing next year, very good blocker and a good receiver, just not a seam busting burner. I think that he might make a significant contribution next year.
     
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  11. Phins Up Wins Up

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    I want to see all those players gone except for Clay and Shelley Smith. I want to see plenty of cap room available.
     
  12. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Colledge - CUT

    Matt Moore - KEEP

    Louis Delmas - CUT

    Jimmy Wilson - CUT

    Knowshon Moreno - KEEP only if cheap

    Daniel Thomas - CUT

    LaMichael James - Didn't see enough to know.

    Jared Odrick - KEEP if planning to let Starks go next year.

    Samson Satele - CUT

    Jason Fox - Don't care.



    I'd rather keep Jason Fox and cut Dallas Thomas.
     
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  13. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Well, I like Moreno, but it's actually that I like what he COULD have done for us. At this point, unless he comes back at a reduced price, it's simply not worth bringing him back...a lot of tread and now injury issues... What you don't want to see happen, is to bring him back at starting salary and see him either not come back fully healthy at the start of the year or not able to make it thru the season uninjured...you end up like we did this year with a guy that know has to have a complementary back to be successful and no one to complement him...

    As to the others, I'd like to see Fox, Clay and Moore for sure, even if we have to overpay for Moore as our b/u QB and Odrick at the right price...of course, that's relative to who is determining the right price. I think he is a good DE, but not a great one...he and his agent likely think differently...

    I also wouldn't mind seeing Hartline back. I'm not in the majority, I know, but he's a steady, not spectacular influence at WR....If you have Wallace or Jarvis go down to injury, Hartline is a guy that can fill in admirably, albeit not spectacularly based on this past year...

    As to Ellerbe, he might be worth bringing back. He was coming on this year very early and then was injured... Wheeler is likely to be back because IIRC, we don't save much against the cap if we cut him....

    Whatever happens, we'll have to get some OL and DL help in FA as well as some help in the secondary.
     
  14. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Dude. I disagree with the bolded. But that's why we have this forum. lol.

    Enjoy the Jets game, bro!
     
  15. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Jesus, why are you yelling? Yeah.....The Moreno signing was looking like a good one before his injury, that's all I was saying. :crapstrom:
     
  16. speed

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    I don't understand why people think we need a RB so bad? Lamar is averaging right around 4.7 ypc. that's plenty good enough. Problem is we kept abandoning the run...WHEN IT WAS WORKING.

    Lazor??
     
  17. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Every player on the team is open to up-grade.

    This should be the philosophy. Otherwise we have situations like Wake being dominant then disappearing. If you believe you will never be replaced it's easy to take plays off. All you have to do is have a brilliant play every now and then to satisfy. Not saying that is the case just that you can not help but wonder. Or the go route that gets run 3/4 speed, or the block that almost was and would have sprung a guy for 10 more yards. Guys got to know they are not exempt.
     
  18. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    Because 2 good running backs is better than Lamar and DT/Williams/James. Backs are a dime a dozen these days. I'd rather look for one later in the draft actually.
     
  19. speed

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    I agree and I really like what I see from Williams.
     
  20. Bpk

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    Lazor says Miller's effectiveness drops off as the game goes down. He wears down, I guess. So we need to platoon him. Also, it would be useful to have a reliable power back for 3rd and 1, 4th and 1 and goalline.

    Key word there was... reliable.

    :)
     
  21. LBsFinest

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    Let all our free agents walk.
     
  22. LBsFinest

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    I can't wait till we cut Finnegan's sorry ***, how he swindled us into giving him 5.5 mil only God knows.
     
  23. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Technically, he played 3 games.
     
  24. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Several of your CUT guys are pending UFAs, so no need to cut them.
     
  25. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    It doesn't matter who stays or who goes. Ross will still be the owner and Philbin will still be the head coach next year.
    So year four of mediocrity is right around the corner.

    Can we just skip 2015 and go to 2016, when I have no doubt we will have a new head coach of the Dolphins and hopefully Ross will have decided he no longer wants to be an NFL owner.
     
  26. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    Clay should be a priority. The rest can go seek work elsewhere. Next topic....
     
  27. DolphinGreg

    DolphinGreg Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Our defense needs a lot of help.

    It might seem nice to a lot of you to go down the list of players and say cut, cut, cut...but you are going to have to fill those holes.

    I'm really worried about losing starters at DT, OLB, FS and CB all at once, particularly on the weaker side of the team, too.
     
  28. jw3102

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    It it makes you wonder how bad Jordan is when Vernon and Wake aren't making plays and yet Jordan still can't seem to get much playing time.

    If Jordan can't come into training camp next year and show he can be a starting OLB on this team, I think it will be time to consider him a bust and see if they can get at least a 6th round pick for him. It actually wouldn't surprise me if he is traded prior to this years draft for a late round pick.

    The coaches obviously don't have much faith in his ability and Hickey isn't on the hook for the pick, because he isn't the GM who drafted Jordan.
     

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