Stephen Ross just said Philbin will be back in 2015

I think the year the Ravens won the Super Bowl, Marvin Lewis was the DC. It was 2000, not 2002. Rex was the DL coach of that team.

 

have to get rid of coyle

 

Look at it as an owner.

You go out and hire a guy to bring the Green Bay model to Miami and no one sees the hypocrisy in clamoring for a coaching change in just three years?

That is not what Green Bay does.

 

They fired Ray Rhodes after one season. They fired Mike Sherman after he made the playoffs 4 out of 6 years and averaged 10 wins a season his first five years with the team.

 

In Philbin's first season, Miami went 7-9, then 8-8 last year and poised to go 9-7 this year. That IS progress. The problem with teams anymore is they are wanting INSTANT success. I look at Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati; I wondered how much longer they were going to stick with him and then after his first 5 seasons, the Bengals were making the playoffs regularly and will be there again this year.

If Philbin had been doing his impression of Sparano, I'd be all for going in a different direction but he hasn't been. Although the Dolphins have been driving me nuts in certain aspects of the game, we are improving and with that being said, continuity is critical to building a perennial powerhouse

 

I think Ross was hoping there would be a parallel with Pete Carroll, who did not have instant success, but there isn't.

2013: weeks 16 & 17.
2014: weeks 14 & 15.

Those were horrible coaching losses. Those weeks were embarrassments. Those weeks exposed us. Those weeks were unforgivable. I can never trust this team, when I know we can't compete when it counts against half-decent competition.

Ravens got freakin flogged this week. Jets took it to the Pats, but came up short.

 

Thats because we've been mediocre for more than a decade. Now, if we keep progress with philbin and eventually achieve ultimate goal(which is championship team) that would be awesome. But i don't see it coming. I don't think we'll see philbin and dolphins playing highest level in the league...
We don't have other options since Ross announced Philbin will stay but man... "there goes another 5yrs"

 

Maybe Ross is hoping that our division will turn out like the NFC South next year and we can finally make the playoffs!

 

Yay.

Will you move to Boston now?

 

Voice of reason strikes again.

 

Playing the devils advocate I am speculating these could be some reasons Ross is deciding for continuity.

1.There has been some progress particularly on the offensive side.Tanny has improved under Lazors tutelage.

2.The players like him as suggested by Pouncey and maybe Marino who I am sure has given Ross his opinion since he works for Ross.

3.There is confidence Philbin and the coaching staff will learn from their mistakes and improve next year.

4.We had a decent draft and FA signings with Hickey as a GM.Another succesful draft and FA pickups would do wonders for this team.It may get us over the hump.

5.We have had a decent record against our division rivals.We split against the Pats and Bills and its likely we will sweep the Jets.

6.We beat and lost some close games to some playoff bound teams.

7.Most importantly Ross must believe we are close to being a playoff team.Any regime change would possibly imply starting over again with possibly a 3 yrs period before we can even think about playoffs.


BTW This is not the way I think but it can be part of Ross rationale.IMO its a flawed argument .

 

Debatable.

- Using Marvin as a an example of continuity is head scratching. He'll make the playoffs again... But Cinci is getting knocked out in round 1 after Pitt wins the division next week. That's what we're aspiring to? Joe Philbin isn't even as good of a coach as Lewis, IMO. And I don't think Lewis is all that good.

- Saying 9-7 is progress is true. Problem is, we're not yet 9-7. And we were 8-6 last season and folded in half. Should of been 10-6. And even if we beat the Jets next week, it doesn't take away from the fact that this team lost critical games directly because of Joe Philbin (history is repeating and we're ignore it). Hell, he still hasn't learned that taking a timeout during your opponents 2 minute drill, on the 3rd/4th down, is ******ed.

- We can't beat really good teams. We've beaten nobodies and a few also rans. Oh, but we beat NE on opening day. The single most flukey day in the NFL...


I understand some people see the glass as half full. It's easier to swallow.. The way Miami yo-yo's all season is directly related to coaching. And apparently, it's not getting better in 2015 thanks to Ross and Philbin.

 

This is how conclusions are reached around here? Brandon27, seriously?

 

This is laughable. Keep pining for Cameron.

 

Goddamn man who do you think you are bringing all this logic and reason up in here?

 

People who think Rex is going to come to Miami as a D coordinator are out of their mind.

Ross couldn't land his top coaching candidates the last time around.
He could barely get a GM candidate to show up for an interview.

No way he could even get Ryan to return his call for an assistant coach position with Miami.

Heck, once Philbin gets a vote of confidence, he will probably give his own vote of confidence to Coyle.
We'll be lucky if Coyle goes at all..... and if he does, expect a second rate replacement. (re. Rob Ryan not Rex)

 

Crunch, that is the 'aqua colored' way of looking at this season. I see, from the negative side of this:

1) I see a team that still has issues with game day coaching blunders,

2) a team that seems to never change it's demeanor. It comes out flat in games that are key and barely shows any emotions and or confidence in other games.

3) A defense that continually faltered as the season went along. Yes, injuries hurt them, but injuries (once again) decimated the OL and the O seem to mostly put the team in a position to win (yes, not every game)... While Philbin's forte is certainly the O, Lazor made that happen where Philbin has not been able to.

4) for the first time in several years, we could not rely on our D. Unfortunately, the improvement in the O still wasn't enough to overcome the D's inability to do it's job.

5) Unfortunately, as a long time fan (like you are), I see an owner who won't let go of his staff because they still have time left on their contracts. That works fine in the real estate business (I guess, otherwise he wouldn't be in a position to be an NFL owner), but in the NFL, sometimes you have to bite the bullet and start new. It seems to me that Ross was burned by the Fat One (Parcells) because of a contract he acquired from Wayne and hated paying him for sitting on his ample arse one season and simply quitting the final year of his contract... Either way, the fans are paying for his inability to want to start anew...

You can read this and say it's a negative outlook, but I see it as a realistic outlook. I'm not on the 'quit the Fins' bandwagon at all, I will be here with them no matter what happens, but I'd sure like to see more leadership from both Ross and Philbin...it's just not happening right now...

 

I think Ross is doing a terrific job of NOT caving to public sentiment. I prefer Philbin be kept but if he had been fired I wouldn't even consider bashing the owner for it.

 

Observations in red

 

I did not state a conclusion. I simply stated my position.

 

Wait, was this a legit serious response from you?

I like it, but it does leave me confused.

 

Ahem, sorry.


Cam Wake's dong.

 

There is a belly laugh smiley that I use on another forum. It would be perfect here. You'll just have to use your imagination.

 

Margin of victory/defeat improvement counts for nothing? Fluke plays were the cause of some of our worst defeats this season.

 

You have to somehow rectify how you think philbin underperformed with a roster that was so badly put together by ireland.

Either Philbin overachieved with a roster put together by the terrible Ireland

OR

Philbin underachieved with a stellar roster put together by a terrific Ireland.

It HAS to be one or the other, lest you be outed for the fraud I suspect you are.

 

None of the above. Wrong as usual, FinD. Tsk tsk tsk.

Jeff Ireland ****ed LB's cat, Ms. Bigglesworth.




And never called her back. Not once.

 

No but what he could do is leave the locker room until the media is allowed in (that is done all the time). No this looks like he lingered in the locker room on purpose to "give this speech".

Yes he IS as dumb / imcompetent as we all suspected he is.

 

Bingo.....this is exactly what I think will happen. Seth winz the internetz tonight.

 

Same as Ireland......this guy never learns. Bad, bad, bad owner. If it's true, he is helping Michigan get Harbaugh over him coming here, then we are doomed. Our owner cares more about a college team than his own financial machine. That is ****ed.

 

"We all" is a bit too encompassing.

 

I was referring to the conclusion reached by someone else from your statement. I had no problem with anything you've said.