How can the miami dolphins defeat this losing culture?

I think the Saban comparison is fair. JJ not so much, IMO.

Saban is a guy much like Harbaugh. Their style is better suited for coaching younger players. I will just be nice and leave it at that.

JJ is different. He was a great NFL head coach. He just lost his heart for the game after his mother died. He said the losses still hurt but the wins didn't make him happy anymore. I was disappointed when he retired, but, I can't fault the man for walking away from that. I would have done the same.

 

And let me guess: those are the teams with the best quarterbacks.

 

Crappy coaches unable to develop talent

 

stop accepting mediocrity and demand more. Yes demand - because that is what it is going to take

 

Absolutely...we're definitely not there YET in 2014 and I wasn't trying to show otherwise. But we could be, that's all I was saying. And if this does turn out to be year one of a three year cycle, then that puts us in some very elite company a few seasons from now.

Besides, don't forget that both Minnesota and NY are very average teams that will not compete if we get the jump on them early. We've also beaten the Pats twice in a row because they give the short passing lanes and defend the field vertically...which plays right into this team's perfect game scenario. So 3-0 is a very possible scenario if we compete this Sunday, and I am confident that we earn a playoff berth from that. Several teams will fall in the final weeks...they always do. With three favorable match-ups for Tannehill, who knows?

Even if we finish 9-7 though and miss the playoffs completely, that's a start of a winning culture.

 

Get a winning HC/GM combo. Winning mentality starts at the top and trickles down.

The good news is. Hickey is showing promise.. imo.

 

I don't understand that honestly.

To me, that's just a recipe for getting pissed on in your living room. Where else does it leave you?

I've always been shocked at how negative Miami fans generally are.

At the first sign of a bad game people crucify the players, coaches, etc.

We still have people going on and on about a time-out that was called in week 6.

If that doesn't sum up the average Miami Dolphins fan, I don't know what does, haha.

 

Would that be your excuse before being fired, lol?

Just blame it on the boss?

Just something to think about.

I think the real equation involves both entities.

 

If only it were that simple.

 

Idk what you're talking about buddy but the glass is half full. In fact it is even more than half full. That glass there is about to overflow all over the counter. We gonna whoop the Patsies because they are sissies. Brady will be crying in a third straight loss to the Dolphins!! Dolphins are his daddy. They own him. **ends troll**

 

Try not to take them too seriously, they're just venting.

 

What are the six teams you mentioned earlier in the thread, if you don't mind saying?

 

The crazy thing is that no matter where you go, it's Miami fans that have the most rage.

Miami fans fly off the handle so fast about everything.

After every loss it's just "blow it up," haha.

It's hilarious. I mean, I get it with the older generation that has a right to be jaded and cynical, but you'd really think there would be some really optimistic and supportive group of people to offset those.

Haha...it's weird. I don't know what it is but there is a definite and undeniable rage.

 

Dolphins have been one of the worst franchises the last 10-15 years. Time to right this ship.

 

What will that do? You actually think Ross and the other people are actually listening to us?

 

Sorry, I meant to reply earlier. They are-

New England
Denver
Green Bay
San Fran
Cincinnati
Indy

Also note that six of the last seven super bowl winners (Seattle, Baltimore, NY Giants x 2, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, and Green Bay) would not meet the definition of a "winning culture" with 3 straight +.500 seasons and a playoff berth each year. Most of them met the criteria for 2 seasons, but not 3 in a row. So it's a very elite group to be a part of....even though we expect it to happen every year as a fan.

 

We have a new culture. Stop dwelling on Ireland, Cameron, Saban, Jimmy, they are all losers and they are gone, the nightmare is over.

 

Winning cures all ills.

Just win.

 

Bro, we lost because of the offensive playcaller. Dude was a position coach, he needs to learn to playcall. We got some issues with personnel if you have not noticed as well.

We have tremendous offensive system. We blew the Chargers, Broncos, Pats out of the water. When w play balanced, in rhythm, we are facking awesome, for the first time since Duper and Clayton. How facking awesome is that!?

Defense is excellent too. The issues we are having is part of improvement. For example, out of necessity due to injuries, in both Chiefs and Ravens game, we were forced to play the lineup of Wheeler, Jenkins and Trusnik at LB. Those guys were giving up chunk yardage as a trio. We need to make some improvement.

But the system is in place, QB is in place, coaches are in place, drafting and development is there, and the system is rolling when in rhythm and pices are healthy. We are set. We are over the hopeless football and hopeless future of the past. We are out of that tunnel.

 

I think in general 80% of all people want to be positive. Most can not or do not remember everything that goes wrong, so they pick on or use memorable things to drive home a point or agenda they have.

I simply have watched this team go from one of the most storied and respected franchises to what amounts to a joke in today's football world.

I will give you an example in the Baltimore game. We were kicking their *** in the first half and squandered several opportunities to be up a whole lot more then we were.

Dallas Thomas allows a sack and strip of Tannehill on second down after a 31 yrd gain was called back and we are instantly reeling. It is 3rd and 26 on our 30 or so.

What came next was one of the most memorable give up plays I can remember in 10 years of Dolphin history. IMO A loud and clear message to the team which we never recovered from.

what do we do?? We call a wide receiver screen on 3rd and 26. A screen that by design is only going to get you 8 - 10 yards max.

When I saw this play I knew the game was over. I knew the team was sent a loud and clear message........we give up - Punt

IMO Joe Philbin should be fired on this principal alone. Remember the kneel down and give up with 1:40 still on the clock at half time??? There is something fundamentally flawed with this type of football and I for one am screaming to Joe Philbin - NO THANKS TAKE THAT **** SOMEWHERE ELSE

 

We have the talent to play with ANYONE in the league as evidence by the New England game, Denver game and San Diego game

I have had upwards of 85 people working for me. So yes, when the **** hits the fan - it is ALWAYS "The Boss" who is responsible. ALWAYS

I can not think of an exception

It is the Boss who is responsible for the end product

 

while its illogical to blame the past on current players and coaches, I can understand their angst. The franchise thru multiple regimes has provided similar results, which only strengthens my position on the culture..

it all starts with the venue..if it has character and is intimate, your culture will thrive, if it is antiseptic and not intimate, it will drag whatever gets in its way down..

 

your words matter..

 

I think you are on to something. It is not that simple and requires a unified effort, which we will never accomplish. I say never because we can't get 50 people on this board to agree less alone lead and organize a message to Ross & Co.

Until Ross is hit hard in that Billionaire pocket he will never sell his "investment". And sell his investment is what it is going to take to get someone in here who is serious at building respectability. People have to stop going to the game. TV Rating have to plummet to all time new lows. People have to stop buying the merchandise. Make it so he can't give away his tickets-people don't want them

Wow sad really. I don't know about you but I was 3 in '72 so I am to young to remember those days. I do remember the 80-s through now and I am going on 34 yrs and I am still waiting. The ineptitude of the people running this team is staggering and depressing. What makes it worse is the people who come on here and year after year and buy in to the nonsense of Baby steps or we have seen improvement, "next year is our year". I am not trying to slam anyone for their beliefs as they are entitled to believe what ever they want. I have been drinking the "cool-aid" for 34 years, look where it has got me. Over the years the management in many different ways have convinced the majority of Dolphin fans that what they are putting on the field is OK. OK - because next year there is "Hope". People want to be optimistic and want to be positive by nature. So we buy in. Before you know it you are me looking back and saying to yourself........**** man they fooled me for over 30 years

"next year is starting to get old for me" - and I love this team as much as anyone on this board, but geez man I am on year 34 of "Next year"

 

Yes they are

 

The only thing that was exposed on offense is the fact that we cannot roll on offense without more balance, 20/3 30/7 will not cut it. That was exposed in the season opener.
That's play calling, that's not Philbin, and that is no news.

As far as the walking papers, how do you think the Phins will do when they go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust, 1-2 WR sets, when you really have to have a qb who can play, when you have to find that pro style QB and all college QBs come from spread like we run? Yeah, that should be a bright future again.

 

Pumpdogs made a good point yesterday, I'm young and dumb, I haven't been around long enough to develop the appropriate level of anger and cynicism. I can't really argue with that LOL.

 

Ugh. You're trying to convince others that Philbin should go when you're still trying to convince yourself.

 

Hopefully, you define it by saying, "The past 13 years has nothing to do with today OR this coming Sunday. Our team has looked good this season, has the most promising offense in a decade, and they've already stomped the eventual Super Bowl champs once this season. With a win this Sunday we're right back in the playoff race and this is going to be the season where everything changes."

Or you can just pout and complain...and probably have a ****ty last two months of the NFL season. I personally would prefer to remain upbeat and see the possibilities, because they are very real if we topple New England for a third time straight.

 

You live in the block of past 25 years. I look at past 25 years to realize we have a good thing going.