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Tannehill: 11th in NFL with 93.4 Passer Rating

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by GARDENHEAD, Nov 25, 2014.

  1. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    He wasn't lousy , lots of support players struggled which impacted his rating , he was far from lousy imo .
     
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  2. ElNino

    ElNino Well-Known Member

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    It would have been nice if Tanny threw that ball away to live another down but in reality the play was there. Someone said it bounced off his chest but i thought it hit Landry in his outstretched hands. It was thrown crazy hard, but then again if it's thrown softer the defender may have had a better shot. Plus the holding and tipped ball. I file the whole thing under "sh** happens". Maybe next time Tanny will remember that it does - when that situation arises again.
     
  3. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Sure looked like PI to me.God I mean manning gets that call with game on the line.
     
  4. DevilFin13

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    Insert disclaimer about completion %... He's been very good. Would love to see how good he can be if he added more long passes to his game.
     
  5. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    no doubt brother

    Tannehill has been decisive and throws that lazer directed by Lazor. What a difference - the quick decision and delivery

    Love it
     
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  6. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    The ball thrown to Landry is one that is made all of the time by good QBs. Trust your throw and trust your receiver. It may have been a smidge hot and a smidge high, but that throw is so not uncommon. The tip INT happens. It just happened at a most inopportune time.

    What I have seen from Tannehill 3.0 is that he is throwing from different angles, making completions when he knows he is going to take one to the chin, and being more precise and trusting with his "tight window" throws. He now KNOWS he can fit that ball in there, and by damn, he does it.

    He truly is growing into a very nice QB for Miami. For whatever reason, there is that one element missing, and it's the down the field passing. He gets that under his belt, and Miami just might have a stud for a very long time.
     
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  7. CaribPhin

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    If you want to know where the simplest offense in the NFL is, just look for wherever Peyton Manning is playing.
     
  8. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    I was wondering why I wasn't seeing the posts you guys were replying to then I remembered the ignore button. What a time to be alive.
     
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  9. finwin

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    Not a good play design. I watched the play about 10 times. Tanne riffeled it and Landry was 4 yards past the LOS. He was jammed by Ward inside the legal area. What's troubling is no one was open and Wallace was taking a breather because he just ran a long route.

    Watch the video at the 3:45 mark. In hindsight we should have ran the ball, thrown to 18 or throw the ball away.

    http://www.miamidolphins.com/multim...ghlights/bdc32756-867b-4715-93e7-f6dfee311be7
     
  10. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Remember when a majority of the fan base wanted to exile Tannehill after the 2nd game of the season?

    Good times, good times.
     
  11. MikeHoncho

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    He's no Matt Barkley.
     
  12. finfansince72

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    Anyone that can't see the improvement in Tannehill doesn't know what they are watching. Hes obviously getting better and more comfortable in this offense. He's making throws right now that he wouldn't have made last year, he's getting there. People forget that he did not get 3 or 4 years in college and we had that hack Sherman running the offense. If we can get Ryan a big target or two we can get a lot more big plays and improve in the red zone. We do those things and we are a serious contender.

    Anyone that focuses on one throw or one INT after that game and dumps on Tannehill is just an idiot, I'm sorry.
     
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  13. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Landry may have been his only "open" option, and given Landry's propensity for making lemonade from lemons....

    The throw, in general, is a throw that good QBs make; which Tannehill is now showing he can complete. It's a good sign that, while he probably has always had the ability, he now shows the faith.

    Those small window throws were not made with regularity earlier in his career. I think we are seeing this with some regularity now. Along with his ability to throw accurately while off-balance and from different throwing angles, he is growing before our very eyes. It is very encouraging. He is growing into the quarterback we have been wanting since Danny. I think if he continues his ascension, we may just have him.
     
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  14. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think one of the biggest things that has occurred is that Ryan Tannehill has weathered disaster-level Tackle play against dominant defensive lines, between some bad games from Ju'Wuan James and consistently awful work from Dallas Thomas.
     
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  15. ElNino

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    One thing is certain....I get satifaction watching RG3 and other superhyped QBs (Cam Newton anyone?) fail miserably while our guy is not only getting good, but appears to be doing it the right way. I couldn't be much more optimistic about our QB situation right now.
     
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  16. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    It brings up the question, again, with all the hate that Sherman got, and I gave it out too, do you think Sherman deserves some credit for how he forced Tannehill to play from the pocket? Do you think he fell on the sword for Philbin and Tannehill's development? That would make sense why Philbin wouldn't want to get rid of him.
     
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  17. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    The only thing that really matters to me is that Tannehill finishes the season with his 90+ passer rating intact. Last season's collapse with the playoffs on the line was very disappointing.
     
  18. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Sherman was very good. Our offense is basically Sherman offense, less deep balls and plus zone read. Also, turns out, Sherman knew how to run 2 minute offense, something we lost by losing Sherman.
     
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  19. heylookatme

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    I think it's more likely that Mike Sherman wasn't doing a proper job of teaching Ryan Tannehill things he needed to learn, like proper footwork.
     
  20. 77FinFan

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    The difference is not great. I believe the 5th year option is in the neighborhood of 17 million. I do not remember the exact calculation, but average of the top so many QB's. Pretty dang salty.

    This in spades. And then never criticize his teammates about it.
     
  21. 77FinFan

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    Not exactly Tanny related, but I find it interesting that Foles had 13 TD's this year and 10 INT's when he went down. His completion percentage was down about 4% as well. Not sure if Lazor gets that credit or not.
     
  22. Colmax

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    I brought this up a LONG time ago, and it really did not catch fire until maybe this season when someone else brought it back to life.

    Who really knows? But given the way this team seems to "develop" their players, it could have some validity. Sherman had intimate knowledge on Tannehil's abilities. One certainly has to wonder if this was part of the overall 'big picture'.
     
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  23. gilv13

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  24. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    I think one issue they were having was their inability to run earlier in the year. It certainly affects the overall offensive system. Could be a reason? Maybe defenses were dropping more defenders against the pass knowing they weren't going to run it well?

    I still think karma came back to bite McCoy in the *** when he acted like an idiot in that restaurant earlier in the year.
     
  25. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Sherman was also better at redzone offense. Dolphins were top 10 in red zone touchdowns last season.

    however Sherman wasn't so good at not having 3 and outs and actually getting to the red zone.
     
  26. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    Aww, man....I nearly forgot about those 3 and outs. Damn, that was frustrating.
     
  27. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Different time, different personnel. He was an important part our growth.
     
  28. Larry Little

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    Post of the f'n year.
     
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  29. Alex44

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    Seriously? He skipped the ball over a guys shoulder, between his helmet and arm, and directly into the hands of Landry. It was just a bad break. The INT against Detroit was WAAAAY worse.
     
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  30. rtl1334

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    This is so rarely touched on. Not to mention he's been in the same offense for his entire career. This no doubt aids to his incredible efficiency.

    Manning's offense in a nutshell...endless crossing patterns in the middle of the field, 30-40 yards downfield either off a play fake or double move and slants near the goal line.

    It has been near impossible to stop, however.
     
  31. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  32. rtl1334

    rtl1334 New Member

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    If you look closely to Wallace' deep passes in Pitt, most were deep post patterns where the margin for error is significant as well as allowing him more room to separate from the defender. If you watch, he made plenty of adjustments on these balls.

    Here, for some reason, they only seem to throw deep along the right sideline where the margin for error is minimal.

    It makes no sense to me.
     
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  33. rtl1334

    rtl1334 New Member

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    Check my post history from last season.
     
  34. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Of course. A franchise QB is a long-term investment. Teach them the necessities of the position while they're young. Look at all the hyped up QB's who came into the NFL and lit the league on fire as spread option QB's. All of them have regressed as the NFL has adjusted to it. Tannehill was trained in the classic approach and he's improved every season. It's not like he needs to practice being athletic. That's natural ability.
     
  35. djphinfan

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    Your generalization has lots of flaws imo, cam newton was overrated, Russell Wilson was tremendously underrated, as was Kaepernik, don't know of any other spread option qbs your referring to, so I guess it depends on your college to pro projections, only one that has regressed would be rg3...which is the one I missed on but not on the others.
     
  36. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Cam Newton, RGIII, and Kaepernick have all regressed terribly. CK is horribly overrated... Alex Smith > CK. Cam Newton's regression is somewhat justifiable. His offensive line and WR corps are a mess. And he's never been surrounded by a lot of talent to begin with. The other two can't play QB consistently from the pocket and their offensive production has suffered directly because of it. You don't learn to read defenses running around all the time.
     
  37. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Well, watching them both in college in 2011, Weeden definitely looked like the better player to me. I am more than happy to be wrong about them though.
     
  38. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    The pass skimmed off Knighton's right shoulder pad, but I'm not sure the officials seen it at the time.
     
  39. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Ward wasn't even covering Landry. How could he jam him? Ward came off his man and got the tipped pass.
     
  40. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    This offense is nothing remotely close to Sherman' offense.
     

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