Try to understand what it is like for us lifer Dolfans...we had Griese, Morrall, as his backup...WoodStrock, Marino and then........................You get the picture
It's not like Marino is becoming the OC or even the QBC! Good grief. Too much negative over-reaction to this, imo. Marino can offer nuances; can help give small tips on feeling the rush or what a QB sees when the rush is bearing down, that the other coaches can't really offer. And, while Dan had the greatest release in NFL history (to-date), RT has a very quick release also and that mutual connection can help. I also think Dan may be able to help him some on the deep ball. Sometimes it's just a very small change or insight that connects. As a teacher, I have come to realize that different teachers, styles, approaches or minor insights, sometimes just they way something is framed, or noticing some small detail that someone else may not see (especially with someone who has had experience in a field) can make all the difference for someone and be the one thing that makes a light-bulb come on. It may not add a great deal or it may actually do a lot. I also think Marino may be better suited than some because of personality. While Peyton Manning, for example, could add a lot on what he is seeing on the field and the X's and O's, there's not much chance of RT having Manning's IQ. Manning is a pure technician. Marino is a much more pure instinctive player who may connect with RT. Worth a shot and only good things can come, imo.
Awesome analogy and thank you for your service ( being a teacher ) I also think Marino can help him with the deep ball. Maybe have Dan SHOW him with throwing deep to Wallace...I am sure Mike would not mind running some deep routes for Dan and maybe then have Tanny try it after careful observation..who knows? Can't hurt!
Not only does Tanny NOT have that ability currently, he doesn't even see HIS OWN open guys at times. Hopefully, he gets it sooner than later in this Not-For-Long league. I've been a fan since I was six years old. That's 1970. Not only have I had the pleasure of watching Marino play, but also the pleasure of being his and Claire's guest at the games a time or two. I also worked for a resort in the Keys that he and Claire frequented the week before camp and bye week, which is where they befriended me. I've even taken him and other players from those 90's teams fishing on my charter. If you think I'm anti Marino in any way shape or form, you would be very off base. As far as Chicago goes, I loved every minute of that night. However, every team can have a game where everything goes wrong. Cocky teams like that bag of bozos can get complacent and/or look past opponents. We should all be thankful that we played the Bears when they were having one of those games. Yes, without Marino, we may have lost but, with Marino, we were still very lucky.
No, that is not what I thought..I actually thought you might have been my son posting..lol..since he is in college and you have the same first name it appears..I too have been a fan..since 66 @ age 6 !! Wow, just awesome that you have had the opportunity to host and be a guest of so many players!
If you are saying that Dan can teach Ryan how to ignore Philbin, the way he would ignore Shula when he recognized a stupid play, then I like where you are going with this.
Ah, gotcha. I was in heaven and always made it a point to never talk shop, which is why I think they liked coming down so much. Except for Ron Heller, who was my favorite player to hang out with. Having a beer while listening about his feud with Neil Smith caused foam to come out of my nose. One of my best trips ever, fish or no fish.
Was listening to OJ talk about this the other day, and LOVED what I was hearing. One thing Dan is trying to help him with is...what is and what isnt an open receiver. Lots of times he may look covered, but you can throw him open. Also look at little tendencies. He spoke of one time where Marino was watching something and saw a little thing the safety would do...so he told OJ...Im gonna hang in there and take the hit, but if you do this, we will score. They scored. MORE THEN ANYTHING....this is about getting that Marino FIRE. The mindset....the attitude.
about the walsh phrase, I don't see how could it be about the Marino's football brain... I always interpreted meaning that Marino's Field Vision was so good-awesome-historical-god like that he could scan the whole field just with a glance... he didn't need what we call progression (1 wr at a time) because he saw all of them a t the same time... A skill that doesn't equate, IMO, to not being football smart or an X&Os guy... That phrase doesn't say a thing about the Marino's brain: maybe he was really dumb, idk, but that Walsh segment doesn't say anything about that. just my 2 cents ps- as usual, sorry for the sucky English
That would be an awesome trip..I am from Ft.Pierce and love to fish as well..To fish with all Dolphins and fans would be great!
Dan had amazing footwork in the pocket. Felt the rush. Tanny's footwork hasn't been that great. Maybe they can be "dance partners" so to speak and he can help him with that. Footwork is footwork and transcends how the game has progressed or changed.
this is interesting as for Sage Dan was gone by the time Sage the rage Rosenfels came along . what this does is inspire me to wish we had A former wr and linebacker to coach or advise these units .
its funny, the national narrative is '' Ryan tannehill has become a major factor with the influence of Dan marino'' sheftie.
Uh, hello!! Exactly!! It's bizarre how it's gone that way. The rest of what you mentioned are good points.
My understanding is Dan doesn't go to movies at all. He always waits for it to come out on one of Premium channels.
Honestly, that's how I think he meant it. Which is why he could achieve all he did WITHOUT paying too much attention to plays and standard strategies. He's like a master piano player who can't read a lick of sheet music. The flip side, is that he probably is NOT suited to identifying QB talent nor is he qualified to watch film with someone......not because he's "stupid" but because very few possess the ability he did. Or maybe he can say something in just the right way that makes the light go off in Tannehill's killer instinct...who knows?
When you draft a guy to sit while you're playing someone else, it rarely is because the other starter is going to teach him. You don't frequently get a situation where a long-term starter is going to get to bow out gracefully on his own terms. Even more rarely, you've actually got a situation where the player in the situation you're perceiving as helpful as a significant ability to help. Likewise, I don't understand at all why people think that players who were elite have the skills or ability to be halfway decent coaches. Quality performance does not mean a player is a particularly good student of the game, teacher, technician, or even particularly intelligent on their own merits. This isn't like where Jason Taylor got involved this off-season. A coach- Kacy Rodgers- specifically asked a player he had a good relationship with to come in and teach a very specific task. He wanted to develop Dion Jordan's long-arm move- Something Taylor was eminently qualified and could reasonably expect to teach to a physically similar player, regardless of other factors. Dan Marino wasn't invited by the coaching staff. Stephen Ross has basically given him free reign within the franchise to show up and do whatever he wants outside of any hierarchy, and without any oversight. It's almost something that the coaching staff would prefer not happen, and as funny as I think it is that the current staff is getting stepped all over, it looks really ****ing bad and it's going to be pretty worrying to people we try to hire going forward.
I read through the posts and I haven't seen anything that indicates the coaching staff is unhappy with it and feels like they are getting stepped all over. Where did you see that?
Ross has hired Marino to essentially evaluate the job they are doing and he'll almost certainly be a big part of them retaining their jobs or not. He's got free reign to observe, and seemingly step in on the football side of operations. What about that strikes you as anything approaching a normal organizational structure?
Have you ever worked for a normal organizational structure? What you are describing is commonplace when people don't perform. The very same people you have been clamoring to be fired all off-season. So the narrative is Ross is an incompetent fool who can't hire the right people. He brings in the greatest QB in NFL history who is a godlike figure in Miami and that's hurting the organization because the role isn't defined to your standards? And how do you know exactly what Ross hired Marino to do?
I've never been subjected to an outside consultant who in part decided to do part of my job for me, no. It's not commonplace, and it's especially uncommon in football when there's generally a quite clear organizational model. I'm not sure how my behavior is in any way contradictory. I want the coaching staff fired. I want better coaching for Tannehill, and a better advisor for Ross. I just don't think him throwing a football really well makes him at all qualified to fill any of those roles and frankly find it baffling so many people do. This team has repeatedly scared front office and coaching prospects away by presenting or proposing bizarre, contorted organizational structures. There's a very clear pattern, and this absolutely looks like a troubling continuation.
Word around the office is Dan doesn't like to tip the janitors around the holidays. And he routinely talks down to the IT staff. Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 4
Dam* I know there is no way in he** we could ever use a QB with Marino's talent on the team now right????
So he's gotten with the times. I still hear stories of Dan driving around the country in search of Blockbuster Video stores in order to rent films; in 2014.
You better tell Dan that because he denies that's his job description. Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...ating-philbin-or-tannehill.html#storylink=cpy
Maybe you better do a little more reading then, because that is not at all what happened. Marino was brought in purely to evaluate and Philbin invited Marino to attend the practices and/or talk to the players in the meetings. He was INVITED, not given free reign, and that fits perfectly with what other organizations do when they have a Hall of Famer on staff. Likewise, Marino wasn't hired to teach Tannehill either, but the QB coach invited him to attend film studies and Marino accepted. He's been there every week, sharing what he sees the defenses doing and explaining how he would handle the situation. Again, all very common...Elway and several others did the exact same thing as new-hires. Also, Marino is not "coaching" Tannehill; he's playing more of a mentor role and sharing advice. That's not in his job title either though; it's free advice that can be taken or discarded.
Marino isn't there at the coaching staff's bequest- He was hired by Ross in some sort of vague capacity as an adviser. Regardless if that's explicitly what is being explained as his job capacity, he's in that position and barring a huge turnaround or a huge collapse that makes the path very clear, he's going to be asked his opinion on the coaching staff.That's not grounds for a consent-based inclusion into the coaching end of the franchise. I'm not really coloring in between lines I drew here, either. There are inside sources on this that is very much suggesting that Marino is not acting in any sort of routine capacity at the coaching staff's discretion.
