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Fins are above avg in everything except passing offense..

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by normaldude, Oct 15, 2014.

  1. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Who is being left off the hook?

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  2. Silverphin

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    Dude, there have been plenty of posts of people saying "Oh... well, if Tannehill played well in the first half of the Green Bay game, we would have won. His second half shouldn't absolve of how he played in the first half."

    And you know what? Fine. But if Tannehill's second half performance doesn't absolve him of his first half, then the defense's play in the first half shouldn't absolve them of their second half performance.
     
  3. Fin-Omenal

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    That may be true for you, but in regards to the majority?? It's not.
     
  4. Fin-Omenal

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    That averages out too....AVERAGE. At home vs a friendly defense.
     
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  5. Stringer Bell

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    The defense is one of the best in the league. And there literally has been no defense of the defenses bad players, primarily the ones in the secondary. Who specifically is being let off the hook?

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  6. PhinFan1968

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    When you get down to the weeds about it...RT's not perfect, neither is anybody else on the team. He's had times where he's been hot and others weren't, and he looked like crap because of the drops. I don't recall stretches of play where his targets are helping him overwhelmingly. Wallace may be more than any other, but he's even had issues (again...nobody's perfect). Lazor's initial game-planning has been fairly weak also. Much better when he adjusts. RT has shown he's much better when he gets in a rhythm...he and Lazor need to get him there earlier.

    Consistency...
     
  7. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Alright then...who is saying he's the answer?

    Name one.
     
  8. resnor

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    Are you kidding? Literally every thread about the Green Bay game has had people defending the defense, going so far as to blame Tannehill for the loss because of their final possession. They talk about how the defense did enough to win, blah, blah, blah, but fail to acknowledge that Tannehill played lights out in the second half, and that the defense had two drives with a lead to keep Green Bay from scoring, and they failed on both. They try to twist Philbin getting "queasy" as being Tannehill's fault.

    Basically, the posters who dislike Tannehill have through great lengths to make every loss this season about Tannehill, as if no other part of the team had failed. I've seen numerous Tannehill "defenders" point out flaws in his game.

    Oh, and the defense is literally one of the worst in the league in some key statistical areas...
     
  9. Stringer Bell

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    Again, who specifically on the defense has been defended?

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  10. resnor

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    Finnegan, for starters. Grimes hasn't gotten the heat he really deserves. The defense, as a whole, had been let off the hook by the anti-Tannehill crowd for awhile. You realize that you can let the defense off the hook without specifically defending players, right? When someone says something like "Can't blame the defense, they were tired because Tannehill was so bad in the first half," that's letting the defense off the hook.
     
  11. ToddPhin

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    that's a trick question because it's not been one specific person. It's the entire unit that's been defended.
     
  12. Stringer Bell

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    Who defended Finnegan? There were a pretty amount of posts ripping him, I don't recall anyone defending his play.

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  13. ToddPhin

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    A friendly defense? Seriously? Packers allowed 15 pts/game the previous 3 weeks and have one of THE best secondaries in the league that allows a 72.4 passer rating [#2 in the NFL], 9 INTs [#2], 213 ypg [#5].

    What did the ground game do in 1st half, or do you think they bare no culpability?
    8 rushes for 1 yard!!! They were even worse than Tannehill in the 1st half, meaning- the ENTIRE OFFENSE was put on a young QB's shoulders against an ELITE secondary in constant 2nd & long and 3rd & long. Yup, that's not a recipe for failure. :unsure:
     
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  14. heylookatme

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    QB is playing well enough for the team to win at the half. QB needs to continue playing that way in the second half or I'm going to act like a small child.
     
  15. resnor

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    Now you're just trolling. Yes, people made posts ripping him...but it wasn't the people who were also ripping on Tannehill. The people, by and large, who were putting blame on the defense, were the ones trying to show that the loss wasn't all on Tannehill. That is my point. The guys bashing on Tannehill have, for the most part, absolved the defense of the loss by saying it's Tannehill's fault because of the first half. Go back and re-read the threads.
     
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  16. rafael

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    I do recall posts claiming that Finnegan wasn't even close to being the reason we lost and listing many others as greater reasons for the loss. I would consider that a defense of him.
     

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