Philbin accepts responsibility for causing distraction

I suppose but it seems like there might have been an ulterior motive to leaving some grey as it pertains to the position, I mean he wouldn't admit that it wasn't for motivational purposes if it was, takes the affect out of it.

I think the kid needed to be shaken a bit, I think he needs to play the game differently, with a different mindset so whatever can create a more sense of urgency in his head I'm for it.

He hasn't said that he's changing anything or that he's aware of what he needs to do differently so we'll see..

 

There is no doubt, the media in general creates and promotes garbage. I agree 100%. Still, Philbin needs to do a better job of handling what he says, and that is the least of his problems.

 

And yet, its the biggest "issue" this week. That's my point, this is silly compared to the things actually going wrong right now.

 

I think the difference is that his response to a typical monday morning question about the starting QB was anything but TYPICAL. Just this past week, Rex Ryan was asked the same exact question about Geno Smith. How come the question did not blow up in his face. The problem was not in the question but in Joe's response. I think it had less to do with RT's play than it did with his policies.... and also trying to stick it to the local media. This mistake that Philbin made( it is a mistake) ranks low on the problems that has had me change my view of him. More like the icing on the cake. He seems almost unhappy being the HC and only perpetuates the perception that he is in over his head.

 

What exactly is "this"? though?

Negative stories in the press? Those would have come anyway after the way the team has performed the last two weeks. The only change is that instead of griping about poor offense, poor passing, poor run defense, its about how Philbin answered a question. In that respect Philbin's actually taken a little heat off of Tannehill with his comments. Two subpar games in a row and yet Tannehill is now the victim.

Poor Ryan.

 

"This" is creating a distraction, according the the players. That distraction inhibits their ability to perform, hence contributing to "the things actually going wrong right now".

 

I agree with your assessment on RT. Time for him to step up and be a leader, be more accurate and to incorporate 1 ounce of his athletic ability in his play on sundays. God forbid he should make a play or even a 1st down with his legs! So frustrating when you see other,less athletic QB's, do athletic things for their team. Seems like my support for both Ryan and Joe has waned due to both making bad decisions that have led to bad results. Being a fan for over 40 yrs, I still hold out hope that both will turn it around. Given both have had 35 gms to show something ...not expecting a big turn around.

 

Fin ur box is full.

 

I could not have said it any better. And even worse... it seems it was done without any constructive purpose behind it. Sad and not needed.

 

fixed

 

Fin's box has been full before....common occurrence, it is a superb box and I like it

 

Yeah, I mean what's gonna happen? Is the team gonna start playing badly all of a sudden or something?

 

I think a team plays much different if they loose respect, and belief in the head coach. When a head coach creates a distraction around arguably the most important position player on the team, when it was un needed to begin with, I can see how they would start to wonder if he was the right guy for the job. Personally, I think they believe this is the case, and have for some time.

If you look at the last 5 games, the team has completely under performed in all of those games save the second half against NE in week one. THERES SOME kind of pattern there. Something is not working, and its not getting fixed.

On top of all this...they have to be thinking, jesus, after the locker room bull**** last season, you really have to open up controversy again? Now?

 

I also seem to think it would cease to be motivational when he had to address the team about it and take the blame.

 

Again, if they've been playing badly and without respect for the last 5 games, then what precisely is this statement going to do? Nothing.

It is being blown waaaaay out of proportion.

 

Maybe, but at least maybe Ryan is thinking the hook could be coming now.

 

That is what Ryan needs. More things to think about.

 

You're right, there's nothing to lighting a fire under someone to have them perform better. Philbin invented it even.

 

There isn't a single person here, including myself, who can measure the effect -- if any -- of this so-called "distraction" on the team, yet it's the most prominent topic of discussion, as though someone could possibly know that it's had an effect, and if so, how much of one.

I think the better topic is what "the distraction" is likely distracting us from.

 

I'm not sure how a distraction could not have a negative effect. Unless you're suggesting that the team would be better off not preparing for the upcoming game?

I think the better topic is what "the distraction" is likely distracting us from.[/QUOTE]

Us being distracted is irrelevant to the Dolphins.

The players on the Dolphins are presumably distracted from preparing for the game on Sunday.

 

Prove any of that.

 

Prove what? That being distracted from preparing for NFL games is bad? Really? Are you suggesting that the players are better off being less prepared?

Do you want me to prove that the Dolphin players are distracted? Ryan Tannehill said it himself. Certainly you could argue that he's fabricating that claim, but I don't see why he would lie.

 

Who says they are less prepared? For all you know Tannehill was saying it was distraction to the PC he was having.

A mosquito can be distracting, is the team less prepared because one player was distracted by a mosquito?

I want you to prove the amount of distraction this is and then correlate the effects the distraction had on the team that can be directly related to said distraction. You're a numbers guy after all, I'd think you'd want hard evidence before you make a statement of fact. Oh and it'd be great if we can that evidence before the game.

 

It's entirely possible that the distraction has no effect on them at all, in terms of the way they're going to play Sunday.

Right, but it's not irrelevant to a discussion about the Dolpins that's better centered on the actual issues we know are affecting the team and can measure.

 

If thats what you believed he said, by all means you're free to believe that.

Yes, the team is less prepared because one player was distracted. How much less prepared is certainly up for debate. The amount of distraction created in this example seems extremely small.

No, thats not necessary. I never made claim to the distraction having a certain degree of effect. I just claimed that there is an effect. You would have to ask Ryan Tannehill how much of a distraction this has been. It could very minor or it could be major, but it is a distraction nonetheless, unless you're claiming that Tannehill is lying.

 

"In terms of the way they're going to play Sunday? What specifically does that mean? Are you saying they would not prepare for the game anyways, therefore the distraction is irrelevant? That may be true, but that doesn't change the fact that the distraction inhibits them from preparing.

Better centered? I'm fairly certain all the problems with the Dolphins have been discussed ad nauseum.

 

Put it this way. If this was not a distraction, why did Joe Philbin say he regrets it? Why did he meet privately with Tannehill about it?

 

Point being, neither of us know, do we?

Again, prove how much of a distraction either is.

Actually, you more or less did. You certainly implied it. If you can't prove quantitatively how much effect this distraction or the mosquito distraction causes, then one can't be anymore significant than the other.

 

To shut up the press?

 

A private meeting is necessary for that? If they are holding private meetings simply to appease the press, then that makes this even more inexcusable.

 

Yes, private means away from the press.

 

If they are doing this to appease the press, then why the meeting? Wouldn't that time be better served preparing for the game?

 

To shut them up.

Since when did we start thinking everything told to the press is the truth? I mean the NFL actually teaches rookies how to speak tot he press without saying anything.

 

Just like you.

 

So the press baited Joe Philbin into wasting time to have a meeting to apologize for something that wasn't wrong?

 

SMH at this "argument".

 

Where did I say that was the goal of the press?

The press wants controversies. Controversies create stories. The created this controversy.

Philbin didn't fight them because that's pointless. He just said "ok sorry and i talked to Ryan, can we move on?"

I'm not sure why this all new to you.

 

Well, I'm SMH at the fact so many are acting like this is the first time a coach was ever non committal to the press about a QB playing poorly.

Another thing, if you guys can't quantify the mistake then why is it crazy for me to question if it even was one?

 

I never said it was their goal. I just wanted to confirm your characterization.

Yes, they created this controversy, and the controversy forced Philbin to have a private meeting.

He didn't 'just say'. He took time out of his day to meet with Ryan, who personally said he was distracted.

 

And? How does that not jibe with what I'm saying? He met with him. So what? For all you know, he meets with him all the time.