Matt Moore + Mike Wallace can open up this offense with the deep ball..

Not true. It has been done many times over the years and has been successfull many times in the past in the N.F.L. It does not mean throwing the towel in on Tannehill it means..hoping it will help him.Will it hurt to try? Nothing else is working for him right now.I think the biggest problem is that he has a terrible QB coach in Zac Taylor, who is only here as a favor to Philbin's big buddy..Mike Sherman who is Sherman's son n law. It is only my opinion to try to do something that will help Tannehill get out so this slump he is in since their is no chance that we get a much needed and long overdue coaching change.

 

No future with tannehill either.After he is done with the dolphins he will be holding a clipboard just like henne will be.Tannehill has regressed to the point where he is not even a top 25 qb so far this year.Moore might not be the future but i think he gives us the best chance to make the playoffs by getting the ball down the field.
In saying this I fully expect tannehill to start on sunday with a very short leash if he doesnt produce in the 1st half.The coaches jobs are on the line and the offence needs a spark and moore might be able to provide it.

 

Omg **** this talk of Matt moore. If tannehill isn't the answer, and sucks as bad as you guys seem to think he does, then you play him anyway. The more he sucks, the more we lose, the better our pick to replace him.

 

The leash might be so short that if Tannehill turns the ball over in the first quarter, you might see Moore warming up.

 

Tannehill is not at all why we lost to the chiefs.he's probably not even one of the top 5 reasons. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills

 

No future with Moore and you dont know the issue is tannehill only wanna be experts would try to claim that. Sure he would seem to be part of the problem but is not very clearly the sole issue. And that leads to doubt that the solution you seek solves the problem. If it doesnt you have done more harm then good.

 

I thought there were already threads on this...why a newer one?

RT has his setbacks, but let me ask this. Did RT not finish the play on the 3 deep balls that were dead on and dropped, or not held in bounds (save the lame *** argument about the Wallace OoB...we himself said that was on him...that was a 50 yard dart on the move MM can't make).

MM would have thrown 5 picks in the coverage we've endured at this point.

Nothing good but a few garbage wins can come of benching RT for MM...he's not the answer short OR long term.

 

I am not really sure we have a sure fire #1 QB in the draft this year like in 2012.I am still pissed when we were 0-7 we went on that win streak and it cost us luck.
****ing ended up with tannehill who I felt was a project and you don't draft a project with the 8th pick.

 

Moore connects on the deep ball.
Throws an interception on the next play.
Deja Vu.

 

what I don't understand is why does everyone insist matt Moore throws interceptions and that's it here's some stats for you!!!!!

MATT MOORE - avg a INT every 27 pass attempts (career), 79.3 rating (career), most games played in a yr was 13 he went 16 td on 347 attempts to 9 int with a rating of 87 that's 38.5 PAT per int. avg yard per pass 7.20. only year he played double digit games.

RT - avg INT every 37 pat (career), rating 78.6 (career), last yr tannehill went 16 games and had 17 INT on 588 attempts for 24 tds with a rating of 81 that's 34.5 PAT per INT. avg yard per pass 6.6.

Now if you realize that every offense Moore has been in has not been set up for his skill set he gets dropped in and has to make due with the playbook he has. Id say whomever says matt moore is a downgrade the proof is right there. Moore has played 35 games Rt played 38...hmmmm kinda similar yet goes against everyone who says he throws picks......we have angled this offense to tannehill and still doesn't work I wonder if we shaded it to moore it couldn't be any worse. Granted Moore is not the answer to the 500 problem the phins have im tired of the Moore int talk its clearly no different than tanny except we get the ball farther down the field which makes millers job running a lot easier.

 

sit Tannehill. he's hearing footsteps, seeing ghosts & freezing up. took too many hits last year. thank you Philbin; you are an idiot.
give Moore a chance

 

All of those batted balls weren't his fault? Interesting... 22 passes defensed in 3 games. 18 within the last two. He's doing something horribly wrong.

 

Your stats imply that, had Moore played a full season, he would have thr own more picks.

 

Anyone remember Rex Grossman? His team went to the superbowl and he was no where close to being a franchise quarterback, so start Moore and let Tannehill learn from the bench.

 

Yes. He's taking too many three step drops.

 

So if Lazor is hired as the OC does he have the authority to can Zac if he doesn't think he can get the job done? If he didn't replace him does this mean Lazor thinks Zac is a good QB coach?

Definitely not all on Tanny, but in this league the QB gets all the praise (most) and all the blame.

 

Personally I think you can get the same result by going to hurry up most of the time...

 

Agreed. Seems ridiculous to me to put in a QB with no upside who is an interception machine just because he throws a good deep ball. Here's a better thought have tanny throw deep at least three times a game. All you want is for him to connect on one of them. The problem as I see it is we don't dial it up enough. Tanny usually gets one shot. That's not enough. Its tough to hit a 50yd pass cold. If you've already thrown one however its usually easier to hit the second or third one. Kind of like finding your range

 

The deep ball certainly is a problem. Well, we don't have a deep ball. That is a problem. You need some chunk yardage. As the OP mentioned, it is a valuable weapon which is being wasted. It's about having many weapons and correctly utilizing them.

 

More hyperbole. Tannehill didn't turn the ball over vs. KC and had over 600 yds in 3 games...and with the receivers dropping balls constantly and the pass blocking being as crappy as always, the situation just doesn't merit benching the QB that has started the last 35 consecutive games. We're not there yet.

If everything else was golden, like ST, run D, the OL, the play-calling and the receivers...and we were losing games solely on Ryan's mistakes and problems, then fine. But that's just not the case.

 

Sadly, Moore's success in 2011 is the only reason we have Tannehill in the first place. So by your logic, we should continue benching the better of two QB's, because Tannehill will ensure that we get a better draft pick next season? That's about the craziest logic I've ever heard in my life.

The worst possible outcome we can have as a franchise is for Tannehill to go like 35/47, 4 TD's and 1 INT next week. Then all the groupies that have finally started coming around will be right back on that bandwagon, even when he only produces about 1.5 great games per season.

 

Yeah don't bother mentioning Tannehill throwing the ball out of bonds when he could have ran it for the first or missing wide open targets or over throwing/under throwing the deep ball. Tannehill is on his way out, he will never be a franchise quarterback.

 

One little tidbit I read about today that kinda surprised me: 2011/12 Moore has a higher sack-per-dropback ratio than RT had last year...

And I fully agree GG. He isn't anywhere CLOSE to the top reason the team has faltered as it has these past few games. These coaches gotta get their sh*t together and fast. I mean, I know injuries/suspensions are mounting and having a VERY negative impact, but to be as fundamentally un-sound as they've been...

Edit: I have no faith in Philbin whatsoever at the moment...could prove me wrong, but I don't think he has the overall grasp to be the head guy. Reid just beat him like a red-headed step-child.

 

No ones claiming hes perfect or anywhere close, but those things mentioned are not why we lost. Not at all.

 

If he would have just ran the ball for the first down and not throw the damn ball off balanced trying to prove something (no idea what he was trying to prove) we would have won hands down. Tannehill is mediocre at best.

 

Oh really? Tannehill picking up the first down suddenly gives our defense the ability to cover joe mcknight ib the slot?

 

Our defense was worn down due to Tannehill not able to keep the offense on the field longer, can't blame the defense for being tired.

 

Well thats certainly one opinion
...

 

Drops didn't have anything to do with that thankfully.

Our defense was depleted due to injuries and suspensions...big contributor to why the middle got so ate up. And the missed tackles happened all game, nothing to do with fatigue.

 

KC's defense was depleted due to injuries too, Tannehill has no pocket awareness and can't even read the field. Next year I expect him to be on his way out with Philbin. Damn it, another rebuilding year again. Gets old quick.

 

They sure were depleted...but they were constantly draped all over our receivers...we got out-coached to the nines in this game...sure there's individual blame to go around in almost all areas...but the coaches got punked.

 

Our receivers did get open but Tannehill didn't see them, we just need a true quarterback, wish we had Kirk Cousins at least.

 

Oh man, I just saw a replay from the game when Tanne was just standing there in the pocket, staring at the receiver. The D player came around from his backside and sacked Tanne. He had no sense of the pressure at all and what was most frustrating to see was that he had a WIDE open field in front of him. Had he sensed the pressure, tucked and ran, it would have been a huge gain. At the very least, it could have been an easy first down. Frustrating.

 

So..we would have won hands down if he ran for that first down?..Really..mmmmmkkkkkkkk

 

Momentum was on our side, he killed whatever momentum we had with that dumb throw, the game was close too.

 

It's GD groundhog day.......

 

I cant believe our qbs arent the best in teh nfl with all the qb experts here.

 

Nobody said he was!

 

420889]Sadly, Moore's success in 2011 is the only reason we have Tannehill in the first place. So by your logic, we should continue benching the better of two QB's, because Tannehill will ensure that we get a better draft pick next season? That's about the craziest logic I've ever heard in my life. The worst possible outcome we can have as a franchise is for Tannehill to go like 35/47, 4 TD's and 1 INT next week. Then all the groupies that have finally started coming around will be right back on that bandwagon, even when he only produces about 1.5 great games per season.[/QUOTE]Never been on any band wagon..I bleed aqua & Orange and always will.

 

Never been on any band wagon..I bleed aqua & Orange and always will.[/QUOTE]


Ive never been a bandwagon fan ive just had enough of this talk about lets help people grow for yr n yrs and they dont pan out (shocker) and stay mediocre, its time to start winning, the patriots aren't taking the division easily anymore which opens the window and right now it looks like we aren't even fighting for the division, im nervous for the jets pressure no matter who's at the qb positions.

in 2011 matt moore went 4-6 in someone elses offense, chad henne which was his offense went 0-4so wtf are you talking about? it was henne's success hahaha or lack there of. Its dumb if he does that because everyone will be all over him like he's a superstar i can so see it already if he goes for 4td and 1 int. I been saying since last yr hes not a franchise or nfl qb.