Dolphins owner Ross felt stupid until the sale of Dodgers and Clippers

He should. Sports teams are horrible investments. They are baseball cards for rich people.

 

You want to make the team worth more? Win more games and bring a couple super Bowl titles.

 

Like the Clippers and the Dodgers have a few respective championships?

 

When he bought the Dolphins many said he overpaid at one billion dollars plus.They way I read it is that he feels better about his investment seeing the value of franchises skyrocketing,The rich get richer .

 

The Dodgers are a huge brand name. Always have been.
the Clippers not so much - so point taken.

Honestly I was shocked that the Clippers sold for that much.

 

That s the way I read it too.

 

NBA teams should be worth more than NFL teams IMO. There is a lot better long term outlook for basketball than football.

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Yeah, he craps on that franchise for multiple decades and walks away rich. Justice. (sarcasm)

 

No they shouldn't. Football is more popular now and you will get more notoriety if you own a NFL team. You don't buy a sports franchise to recoup your investment. You buy it for the status and to become famous.

 

If Ross wants to sell the team and make a lot of money. All he has to do is get his girlfriend to tape him making derogatory remarks about an ethnic group and have her leak it to the news. The NFL owners will be forced to make him sell the team. I am sure another clueless billionaire would step in and pay an inflated dollar amount for the team, in an effort to show he has more money to spend than he needs. While I totally disagree with the remarks made by Sterling. I seriously doubt he would have gotten anywhere close to the two billion dollar selling price if he had not been forced to sell the team. It appears the bids for the franchise were grossly overpriced simply because the buyers wanted show they had the money to help the NBA get rid of Sterling.

It now appears Ross got a great financial deal when he purchased the Dolphins, when you compare it to the ridiculous price paid for the Clippers.

 

Since football is far and away the most popular game in America and continues to expand its popularity every year, I have absolutely no idea why you think basketball has a better long term future than football.

The reality is that in the latest Harris poll taken in regards to the popularity of sports in America in January of this year:
1) NFL football 35%
2) MLB 14%
3) College football 11%
4) Auto racing 7%
5) NBA 6%
6) NHL 5%
7) College basketball 3%

Contrary to your prediction that basketball has a better future than football. It appears the future of basketball in America is on a downward slide, while football at the NFL level and the college level only continue to gain in popularity.

 

Mark Cuban?

 

Imagine Mark Cuban if he owned a NFL team.

 

Football is more popular in the US. Basketball is much more popular internationally.

And it will not be long before basketball is more popular in this country. Youth participation in football is plummeting. The game is becoming more and more dangerous. As time passes, the physical toll on former players will become far more pronounced, as will the league's legal issues.

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NBA ownership is much more glamorous. Courtside is more prestigious than owner's box IMO. Stars riddle NBA stadiums on game days. Rappers and rich retirees in Miami, movie stars in LA, media moguls and artists in New York, other athletes in other cities. Also, NBA stars are wildly underpaid relative to their value. LeBron should be signing MLB contracts based on what he brings to a franchise. A lot of these owners also paid peanuts for the teams compared to what they'll sell for.

NBA ownership is a sweet deal.

 

Not going to get into the whole sterling thing except to say there is only an offer no deal has been reached. Sterling still owns the team and is suing the nba for 1 billion.

The reason the teams values are going up is because of tv. The networks want programming that you want to watch live not days later on your pc.

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Thats great. But that doesn't really prove that the NFL's revenue will continue to grow. You have to look at them with essentially a 35% market-share, and you can't help but ask how they could see 2-3x revenue growth. The only way you can see such exponential growth from a league with that much market share is expanding to new markets. Do you really think the NFL can expand to Europe? South America?

The NBA has a pretty easy path to international growth. It is much more popular than the NFL internationally. LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, etc. all have massive international followings. The world loves the NBA. You can't say the same about the NFL. The NBA logistically also has a huge advantage over the NFL. You can't send an NFL team on a european road trip, but you very well could do that with an NBA team. The effect of travel is greatly lesser for basketball than football.

 

Most people I know who watch football never played the game in their lives. More people have always played basketball than football.

Right now more people watch the draft than the NBA playoff games. The Pro Bowl gets ratings that is near or above Game 7 of the NBA championship. And the Draft is boring and I have yet to find a football fan who watches the Pro Bowl.

Unless Fantasy Football becomes less popular and watching football games isn't such a big event I don't see NBA challenging the NFL anytime soon, let alone surpassing it.

 

The most popular sport in the entire world is soccer. It hardly even registers as a watched sport in America. So international growth in either football or basketball is really irrelevant in the discussion of sports which have a possible growth rate, especially in America.

The last time I looked, it is the NFL which plays regular season games in Europe, not the NBA. As far as the NBA expanding to Europe or South America is concerned. I can more envision the NFL, where they only play once a week expanding out of the United States, as opposed to the NBA, where they play games every few days during the regular season. The travel to various countries for NBA players would be a disaster over the course of the season.

If you want to believe that NBA basketball has a better future than the NFL, so be it. I just don't buy it and according to the latest poll, most Americans don't agree with you either.

 

Maybe it's because I live in a football state but I literally know one family that gives a damn about the NBA.

 

Stringer is correct in stating that the NBA is accepted worldwide while America Football is only marginally accepted in countries like the UK ,Canada,Mexico,Germany and the Netherlands .The sport has had a harder road to acceptance worldwide than soccer has had to be accepted in the USA.

Much to my chagrin while travelling in other countries I have seen announced NFL playoff games being pre empted by Girls Hockey and Lacrosse...I kid not.

Needless to say its not a popular sport in those countries.

You can watch NBA in any country in the world during playoffs.

 

No he doesn't, the team was officially sold. Apparently Sterling had been examined a bit ago due to fear of Alzheimer's and dementia. As of a week ago he was declared mentally unfit which allowed Shelly Sterling to take over governing control of the Sterling Trust. They reached an agreement with Balmer and everything has been signed. Furthermore Sterling trust agreed to indemnify the NBA from any actions from Donald. Basically at this point he'd be suing himself.

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Lacrosse is awesome, I'm not sure why it is not more popular here (both in participation and television).

 

While Basketball is more popular on the worldwide scale, American Football is doing its thing on the international scale as well. Along with the countries you mentioned, there are pro leagues in Italy, Australia, Germany, Japan, France, Israel, Brazil, and more.

 

The more Ross-centric articles I read lately the more I'm convinced this guy is just another greedy bag who is in it for the money, and money alone.

A greedy bag who apparently is also too cheap to hire a PR team to help sanitize the stupid (public perception-wise) things that he says and does.

How I wish this guy had succeeded in buying the Jets.

 

I don't doubt that the NBA is more popular in many countries. . The fact is that there are many different professional basketball leagues in various countries. Therefore more people know and understand the game of basketball than football. In fact, to most people in the world, football is soccer to them.

That still doesn't change the fact that in America, basketball is no where nearly as popular as the NFL or even college football. The fact there are more fans of basketball, auto racing or soccer on an international basis is irrelevant in so far as the future prospects of these sports are concerned. In fact I think the reason football is so popular in America is that it is the one sport most Americans feel still belongs mainly to our country.

The best football players live and play in the United States. Whereas there are great baseball and basketball players in many other countries. As the players from other countries have become more talented in these sports, it appears these sports have actually become less popular in the United States over the last few decades and football has become the dominant sport fans want to follow.

If owners want to own a team which most of the world cares about, they will buy a soccer franchise outside the United States. If on the other hand they want to own a franchise which most Americans care about, they will own an NFL team.

All these owners have more money than they know what to do with. The proof of this is the Clippers being sold for nearly 4 times what they were valued at before the sale. They don't buy sports franchises to make money, but as a toy for the rich. So if you want the most exposure and the best toy, you'll buy an NFL franchise.

NFL owners have the best TV contract, the best player contracts and the teams with the most fan interest. Perhaps owning the Yankees or a few other MLB teams makes sense, but I think given the opportunity, most every owner of a professional sports franchise would probably prefer to be an NFL owner over any other professional league in America. Unfortunately for many of these rich billionaires, NFL teams aren't on the market very often and when they are, there are no shortages of willing buyers.

I lived in South Florida for over 50 years. Therefore I am a fan of the Miami Heat and I watch their games when I can. I really don't watch any other NBA games during the regular season or the playoffs, if the Heat aren't involved. I now live in Maui and while I will watch the Heat-Spurs finals. I would say that 99% of the guys I play golf with over here probably don't even know or care about who is in the NBA championship finals. They talk about the upcoming University of Hawaii's football team, or the football teams they followed prior to moving to Hawaii. We have many 49er's and Seahawks fan here and they are always talking about the upcoming season.

A few are Dodgers and Giants fans and they talk about how their baseball team are doing. NONE of them have talked about the teams in the NBA. Of course Hawaii is part of the United States and therefore the lack of interest in the NBA makes sense. I guess if I had moved to Europe, fans over there would show more interest in who is playing in the NBA finals.

 

Dodgers owner was ousted as MLB took over. That's a horrible owner.

Clippers owner was banned for life.

Wonder if Ross thinks he's not as bad an owner as they were? I guess he's right.

But that ain't saying much. lol.

 

I've railed against Ross enough so yeah, I wish he wasn't the owner. Agree.

 

You forgot to add Russia who offered Tim Tebow a contract .Internationally its a marginal sport .In the UK its behind soccer,rugby ,cricket and Rounders .

 

Part of that is the US's culture of wanting to be number 1. The other countries sucking at football just makes it easier. Soccer, rugby, cricket, the final frontiers.

 

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/2/6/5385664/adam-silver-gauntlet-nba-vs-nfl

There is no way the Clippers are worth $2 billion. The NBA is popular. Football is a religion (NFL and NCAA). The NBA is the #1 participatory sport but that doesn't mean much (Soccer).

The NHL sells out more than the NBA. Lucky for the NBA, the teams that are popular, are really popular. But for everyone else it's barren.

 

I've been banging that drum since day one.
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Sorry, but it's almost laughable to think the nba is as popular as the nfl. In the US or worldwide. During the Jordan years the association was at its height in popularity around the world. Mainly b/c of the sheer talent in the league plus the fact that the international BB world hadn't caught up. But as the years went by the international stars became nba stars. While there's still an entertainment factor, there's no longer an amazement aspect to the league thus the belief of "we can do what you do now." And don't get me started on how much today's nba is watered down.

NFL TV ratings continue to go through the roof(even for regular season gms). As mentioned earlier Fantasy FB popularity is at an all-time high. How many people care about the nba draft? How many bb fans(casual & hardcore) host gm 7/title clinching functions? Meanwhile a Super Bowl Party is basically a social norm here & overseas.

 

Part of me feels bad for the guy because the support he gets locally is pathetic, maybe the worst the league has seen, the other part that doesn't is his inability to understand how to change the dynamics of two programs and be a hero..build a new stadium..

The guy seemingly will do anything for us though and for that I respect him.

 

Basketball will NEVER be more popular in this country because it's incapable of producing the storylines that Football does. You don't even need to watch half of the Basketball season and you pretty much know who will win it before the season even starts. Throw that in with Basketball is played during the months where people probably care the least about what is on TV and you have an interest cap. I don't see how Basketball could ever trump Football. Basketball is probably a bigger threat to soccer than it is to Football.

 

So wait when Ross does sell, does that mean this forum gets shut down?

That would suck.....

 

Wait. He owns the forums too?!

Well, we're screwed.