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Sports Buzz : Players excited about new offense

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  1. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2014/05/player-observations-on-dolphins-new-offense-heat-game-2-postscripts-um-marlins-jimbo-responds.html

    Then there is this

     
  2. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    And on a positive note I am sure we will all be glad to hear this:yes:
     
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  3. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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  4. Fineas

    Fineas Club Member Luxury Box

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    I agree. If getting our players in space was a big focal point of the offense, I would have expected us to make more of an attempt (or any) to get talented space players in FA and the draft. That we really didn't pursue any "space" playmakers may indicate it won't be a major focus of the offense, or it may show a disconnect between the coaches (or Lazor) and Hickey. Or it could mean something else, I suppose, but I can't think of any explanation that really makes me happy.
     
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  5. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    And we had Brandin Cooks there for our taking .Hopefully it doesnt come back to bite us.
     
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  6. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I think if Wallace/Clay/Moreno/Miller find space they will make a lot out of it. I'd agree otherwise. However designing plays that naturally create space is still good for a guy like Hartline who has RAC issues.
     
  7. LBsFinest

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    Ahhh the offseason...where everyone's excited about all our new shiny things...our new coaches, our new schemes, our new players... I remember Hartline saying we had a championship offense last offseason...and everyone excited about the "up-tempo" offense Philbin and Sherman were bringing in 2012.

    Sorry if I'm a bit skeptical.
     
  8. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    I feel like I see this thread annually. Players are excited about new offense. Fan is like, I'll be excited when the new offense scores on the field.
     
  9. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    That only helps if he throws deep balls to someone other than Wallace, who I got the impression did sweet **** all to improve at catching the deep ball this offseason.
     
  10. RalphX19X

    RalphX19X >:)

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    Sounds rosey. But Ill believe it when I see it.
     
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  11. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    although i´m a homer most of the time, this time i´m not falling for this bull****....we hear this everytime when a new offense is coming, everyone is excited bla bla bla....i believe it when i see it
     
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  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    You better be sorry
     
  13. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    have you ever been anything but skeptical? I guess a lifetime of rooting for this team can do that to some people. If you can't at least enjoy the optimism that comes in each offseason, not sure it's even worth it.
     
  14. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    A lot of that stuff is just fan service. Let's get you excited by stuff that doesn't really mean anything.

    But the points about Lazor being given full authority over the offense and the parts where players specifically compared the offense to Philadelphia's are interesting.
     
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  15. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    True, but so are 80% to 90% of articles during the offseason.

    It is one of the reason the offseason sucks
     
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  16. MikeHoncho

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    I'm excited about this article.

    Sent from my LG-MS770 using Tapatalk
     
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  17. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Who Da Thunk?
     
  18. Mcduffie81

    Mcduffie81 Wildcat Club Member

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    I miss the days where articles like this had me beaming with excitement. I'm 33 now. I'm pretty much an eternal optimist and really excited about Tannehill's growth (in particular) and a new Offense. But it's come to...."show me, don't tell me".
     
  19. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Relatively speaking sure, space created by scheme is great, and will help who we have..
     
  20. Fineas

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    Sure, space is better than no space and we shoudl try to create more if possible. But if a major goal of the offense is to create space for your best playmakers, then it would have been a good idea to get some players who are really good in space. I like some of our guys, but none are what I consider especially dynamic in space. None are particularly elusive or creative in the open field. The two big play guys in Philly last year -- McCoy and Desean Jackson -- are dynamic open field runners with elusiveness and creativity. At Oregon, Kelly had De'Anthony Thomas, who is a dynamic open field runner. Those are all guys who were very successful in Kelly's system. IMO, if we are moving to that kind of system, we should have made some attempt to get some guys like that. We could have had Thomas, Seastrunk, Dri Archer, etc. in the mid-late part of the draft. Vets like Jackson, Sproles and Hester were available this offseason too.
     
  21. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    I used to get excited every year leading up to the beginning of the season, new toys, new names, new faces, new attitude. Now I am afraid to get excited, afraid that my enthusiasm will turn into despair. I guess I have turned into a closet Homer.
     
  22. ToddPhin

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    So ummm.... all that wasted energy spent questioning me pre-draft when I mentioned what the offense would be like under Lazor. :nono:
    Like I said- there'd be some of Philly's system brought with him, and there'd be a greater emphasis on both the vertical game and utilizing players in space.
     
  23. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Ya we hear the same thing from the players every year...and wouldn't we, particularly when you have an exciting new OC and a (hopefully) improved O line?

    We're mostly all in the "I'm from Missouri" mode, but I lean toward the "hell ya, bring it on!"

    Sherman talked all that **** last year about up-tempo, fast game, bla bla bla, and obviously forgot what he said, 'cuz we sure didn't see it. Lazor on the other hand, has experience with it at the NFL level, so it's a bit more believable coming from his unit. I envision some no-huddle stuff with Clay, Moreno, Gibson and Wallace over-matching some defenses...that's what I'd like to see anyway.
     
  24. Limbo

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    I mean, this (filler) article has quite the list: deep passing, west coast, guys in space, committed to running it, big plays, plays from the gun, plays from under center, tempo, it has spread...but also more than spread.

    Run all the offenses!
     
  25. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Sherman was stuck in his ways and didn't try new things that would potentially open it up for Tannehill. Lazor will. In almost every way, Lazor is what Sherman wasn't. Sherman was old, predictable, stubborn. Lazor's young, and can't afford to be either of those other things.
     
  26. Clark Kent

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    As much as LB is getting **** for being "negative" he's right. We've heard so much BS about about this offense under Philbin that has never materialized. Im firmly in the camp who must see it to believe it.

    And I don't quite believe Philbin has no say in this offense. Isn't that why we hired him? and why would we run Philly's offense without the personnel?
     
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  27. Booftard

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    I hope Lazor is exactly what we wanted from Sherman in the first place - experienced master who can best utilize his pieces to score points. Sherman seemed too nervous to allow his players to do as they were trained and kept the training wheels (conservative play-calling) on way too long.
     
  28. Disgustipate

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    The article is mostly fluff I think. The most significant things I think are what CK noted in regards to the amount of control Lazor has, and that it's likely to be more balanced in terms of running the ball.

    The part I'm really interested in is the option elements.
     
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  29. djphinfan

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    I'll 2nd the options elements...please take our qbs entire skillset and use it.
     
  30. cdz12250

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    Maybe Sherman ran such a vanilla offense because he didn't trust his players to be able to execute anything else. Maybe Lazor will have more confidence and instill it in his players. We'll see.
     
  31. WhiteIbanez

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    Expect Lamar Miller to have an uneventful season again.
     
  32. RoninFin4

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    Agreed. This.
     
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  33. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Your missing one formation that I think is pivitol to the success of Ryan Tannehill.
     
  34. Ludacris

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    [video=youtube;LEN7l5pBA3Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEN7l5pBA3Y[/video]

    This is basically Lazor's offense as OC at Viriginia. He uses quite a lot of 2 TEs. #49, #89, #83, #88 are his TEs (all listed as either 6'5'' or 6'6''). One TE would be an inline blocker while the other would be used as an H-Back, off set I blocker or slot receiver. He used #37, a traditional I formation lead blocking FB 5 or 6 times. He uses motion quite a lot.

    How much of Chip Kelly's offense he will use is any one's guess. I've seen Chip Kelly put Lane Johnson out as a WR and use him as a blocker for bubble screens. That was a funny play.
     
  35. EverFin

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    If Sherman didn't trust his players to be able to execute anything else I just hope it was because he was old and stubborn and not because what he saw in his players.
     
  36. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Its a flawed argument to bwgin with because his players couldn't execute what WAS called a majority of the time. Especially offensive line.

    IMO When you are backed to a wall creativity becomes so importabt for success, and he just lacked it.
     

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