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Richard Mathews and Brian Hartline Highlight videos

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dol-Fan Dupree, May 19, 2014.

  1. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I don't remember if the Brian Hartline video was shown. So I will show it again

    This MasterMathias19 guy doesn't understand what "highlight" means, however I am very appreciative to him for making these videos.

    [video=youtube;7gCG2TFAaw4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gCG2TFAaw4[/video]

    Here is the Richard Mathews Video. I know this one hasn't been posted. I wonder if he is going to turn a corner this year. He is going to need to.

    [video=youtube_share;qaiPqZPXF0A]http://youtu.be/qaiPqZPXF0A[/video]
     
  2. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Thanks for posting.

    To be fair most Hartline "highlights" will be of him making a catch and either going out of bounds or being tackled.
     
  3. vizi0n

    vizi0n Boom.. Club Member

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    Surprised hartlines toe tap td in Pittsburgh wasn't shown...

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  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    A decent amount of those out of bounds catches are pretty amazing
     
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  5. RickyBobby

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    The bottom of our roster should be better than it has the past
     
  6. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    Looking at those highlights just confirms why Sherman had to go. 95% of those highlights were nothing but 3 routes: Comebacks (hitches), Outs, and Fades (Go routes). I only saw where 4 or 5 were slants. No posts, corners (flags), Digs (Ins), Drags, Swings, Flares, Wheels, Combination routes (PoGos, Sluggos, PoCos, Stop&Gos, etc). Everyone is lining up in the same positions...no diversity or mismatches. It was Little League playcalling being executed by talented players. I sure hope Lazor does better because the talent is there.
     
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  7. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Not saying they aren't. I've said before Hartline is a wizard near the sodeline and kind of average in all other aspects.
     
  8. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I think he is an above average route runner.
     
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  9. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I'd agree but I don't think he has the physical ability to make it matter as much as it should. I don't hate Hartline, I just think he has a very very specific skill set.
     
  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I think that skill set fits really well at what Tannehill does well.

    I also think you are disregarding his physical ability. He isn't a powerhouse, however he is very quick and has good enough speed to take advantage of his quickness.
     
  11. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    IMO He's a good #2 if you have a dominant #1 and an explosive slot receiver. He's not in the top 64 WR's I'd take starting a team though.
     
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  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I think he is a top 64 WR. I guess that is where we differ. He is a good #2b, even if you only have a #2a. He is good at getting open, he is smart enough with a good enough feel to sit in zones and he quick enough to get open constantly.

    I do agree that he is paid about a million more a year than he should be, however I am constantly amazed by how little respect he gets on this board. Especially since Miami has had so little 1,000 wide receivers, even if he only got it one year by default. Although there were plenty of wide receivers before him didn't.
     
  13. phinswolverinesrockets

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    I would like to see your list of 64 then. I cannot even imagine 64 better receivers than Hartline.
     
  14. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    when the majority of your routes are hitches, where the DB is on your back as you catch it, what do you want him to do? even calvin johnson would be tackled on the spot. When the rest of the majority are out routes that his momentum takes him out of bounds or toe touches what do you want? even calvin johnson would go out of bounds.
     
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  15. GMJohnson

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    Matthews is a hard guy to get on the ground, Hartline is often tackled by grass and gravity.
     
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  16. Alex44

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    How about the times he does run a route over the middle and is always tackled immediately?
     
  17. Da 'Fins

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    That fade/corner route by Hartline against the Browns for the TD was a thing of beauty. Great fake of the out and just burned the CB as he bit on it.

    He's not going to break a lot of tackles because he's not a strong/physical player but he can get the job done.
     
  18. Fineas

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    Not quite sure what you are talking about. In just the first 3 minutes of the Hartline video there are curls, digs, slants (4-5), fades, outs, a post, a flat and a few corners. I see pretty good diversity of routes.
     
  19. phinswolverinesrockets

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    I told you about the 4/5 slants. There was not a single dig, post, flat, corner, or combination route. You might have seen a fade route that was thrown to so badly that Hartline had to adjust to it. That's not a corner route. There was only 1 drag at 1:00 and only one true curl route at 1:45. The rest were just like I said: Out routes, hitches, and fades. Basically, 3 routes out of 9 minutes of highlight tape. Tell me where you saw what you saw.
     
  20. Limbo

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    So...little...RAC.

    Sherman had NO idea how to build/create RAC opportunities into this offense. It's surreal to see catch after catch of the guy being dropped almost right away. I get taht Hartline and Mathews aren't the greatest RAC guys on their own, but man, put them in some space or give them routes that have some vertical direction to them at the catch point. So many comebacks and sh-t that pins them against the sidelines. The sheer number of immediate tackles is almost comical. Goddamn. Tannehill's job was so hard last year because no one ever gave him free or easy yards.

    Gonna YouTube some Victor Cruz to cleanse this bad taste...
     
  21. Fineas

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    I stopped after 3 minutes, so those 4-5 slants were in the 20 or so plays in those first 20 minutes. The second play on there looks like a dig, although I suppose it could be an elongated slant or a very "fat" post. There is another dig at 1:56. The play after that looks like a corner route that went for a TD. Maybe that's the one that you call a fade route that was thrown so badly, but I think it is a corner route that is thrown badly.
     
  22. rafael

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    That's where I hope Lazor brings in some of the concepts and route combinations from Philly. Watching that Philly offense I was often shocked by how much space the receivers and backs had. In Miami Tannehill was constantly making throws into tiny windows. You don't see that in Philly. I watched several Philly games and parts of almost all of them and I can't recall a single pass from Foles that made me think, "Wow, what a great throw!". I was constantly thinking "great decision!" or "great timing!". I really like Foles, so this isn't a criticism, but the fact is that in that offense he was never forced to make the precision throws that Tannehill had to consistently make. That's why I think the criticism of Tannehill is so unfair. Guys like Foles and Wilson had better seasons, but they were asked to do so much less or at least less difficult things.
     
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