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The Miami Dolphins are inept collectively at Social Media

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  1. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    I also mentioned polygamy which is gaining traction as a norm in society. You skipped criticizing me for that example. So what if while watching the draft 2 men and 3 women all started kissing, crying and rubbing on one another and a player expressed shock at what he saw by tweeting "OMG" "Horrible". Would he, should he be fined and punished? Depends on your feeling of plural relationships I guess. I doubt anyone would have an issue with his tweet though. We already agreed that the fine and punishment was extreme though and thats the only point I'm attempting to make in this thread.
     
  2. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    100% correct. Rule 1 of progressives: Be offended by everything. Rule 2: Intimidate at all costs. Rule 3: Escalate until rule 2 is successful .
     
  3. Two Tacos

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    No, it depends on the teams feelings, and those will probably depend on the bottom line. But again, homosexuality is not polyamory (which is what I think you meant, unless everyone is married in your scenario). You can be fine with one and not the other.

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  4. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    I know being homosexual isn't the same as being a poligamist/ group marriage. Homosexuality also isn't the same as being heterolsexual. You can be fine with one and not the other.
     
  5. Two Tacos

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    It's funny that you believe such drivel. There is no requirement to accept incest because you accept homosexuality. That is not a valid point. They aren't the same. You wishing it was doesn't change that. Bumper stickers don't need qualifiers, it's expected that the reader use some common sense. If you cannot handle that you should probably avoid reading them. It'll save you some aggravation.

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  6. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    Well in all fairness if your argument for homosexuality is being able to love who you want. Incest is no different. What does it hurt you if brother and sister want to love one another and be married? Maybe they feel there is no room for bigots like you in this world.
     
  7. unluckyluciano

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    took der jabs!!
     
  8. Two Tacos

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    Now you get it! Now stay with me here, so can your employer. And if you're in the public eye as a part of your job your employer can require that you have a certain standard of public conduct, among which could be to not offend people who display behavior that your employer deems acceptable.

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  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I didn't see it. I do have a little of a life. Just a little.
     
  10. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    So if Jones tweeted the same reaction to Manziel kissing his gf you think they would have taken the same course of action?
     
  11. Two Tacos

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    Who is making that argument? Which gay and lesbian rights organization is also advocating for incest, or beastiality? Your making a straw man. I haven't heard anyone of importance saying that there are no limits to acceptable relationships.

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  12. Finfangirl

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    What don't you get about don jones being tied to a contract that doesn't allow him to say or do idiotic or insensitive things within the public eye. Look at his twitter page, he's in a Miami dolphin uniform, thus representing the MIAMI dolphins. They have the right to tell him to STFU.....that's what you're not getting. Brick wall =you. This has nothing to do with free speech or liberals or conservatives or anything political...and everything to do with stupidity and lack of common sense and judgements. Social media is not the place to let everything hang out, when you are representing an organization. He can have his thoughts, he can love it, hate it, be indifferent ......but again, tell a friend, tell your mamma, call your buddies. The only reason he put it on social media is for the world to see his reactions.....and to get a reaction.
     
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  13. Shamboubou

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    Now I get what your trying to say, they are not really fighting for true equality to just gain the rights that will still be denied to others who they feel their idea of a relationship is wrong. Thanks for clearing that up. :up:
     
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  14. Shamboubou

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    Ok.....but who are you or the NFL to decided that the comment he made was insensitive or idiotic. If I'm sitting there making out with my wife and a homosexual male walks by and says ewww gross. I'm not in the least bit offended. If he didn't think making out with a woman was gross or not natural he wouldn't be a homosexual male, he would be strait. So when he says gross I dont take that as bashing or hatred I take that as thats definatly not for me. I will pose the same question to you like everybody else that has dodged it.... If you are going to punish somebody for being disrespectful on twitter towards homosexuals, why ignore it when they use derogitory language towards African Americans, Women, and other groups. That is my problem more than anything with his punishment, it has to be across the board or its targeting. So if they punish every player that posts something that somebody may find offensive then I'm 100% ok with the punishment.
     
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  15. OkiePhin

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    Gay marriage is protected by the Constitution's commitments to liberty and equality. The US Supreme Court ruled in 1974’s Cleveland Board of Education v. LaFleur that the "freedom of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life is one of the liberties protected by the Due Process Clause.” US District Judge Vaughn Walker wrote on Aug. 4, 2010 that Prop. 8 in California banning gay marriage was "unconstitutional under both the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses."

    "freedom of personal choice in matters of marriage and family life is one of the liberties protected by the Due Process Clause.”

    Only one of the main arguments of the LGBT activists.
     
  16. adamprez2003

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    Sounds to me like he should challenge this in court. Is there such a thing as 24 hour employment? Is it legal to demand to demand you follow certain rules when not acting in the official capacity of the company. If it is deemed legal, I think we have to pass a law that says employers only have say in your business when you're actually on the clock. We can't have employers demanding 24/7 acquiesence to their rules. My employer pays me for 8 hours a day approximately. He shouldn't have a say in the other 16
     
  17. Two Tacos

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    Its GLAD not GLPAD or GLBAD. The poor oppressed pediofiles and beastiality lovers have to get their own advocate groups.

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  18. Two Tacos

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    What about that changes the gay communities acceptance of incest? Do you even know what your argument is about at this point? I am struggling to figure it out.

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  19. Two Tacos

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    The NFL, the Miami Dolphins specifically, are his employers. Did you miss that part? I thought it had been covered. You don't think the Dolphins can just fine anyone on tweeter do you?

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  20. OkiePhin

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    They don't have to accept it if they don't want but the argument for equality is the same. Your dragging me down your rabbit hole. If Jones tweeted about a straight couple kissing no one would blink. If he tweeted about an incestuous couple, no one would blink. No one should have bothered with this weekends tweets either.
     
  21. Finfangirl

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    I live with a labor and employement attorney, your job can and will have a say in what you say and do on and off the clock. I can promise you this, the first thing employers do when they receive your resume is google you and see what lovely things you may have said/done on social media. So, suing isnt going to happen especially when you are a PUBLIC FIGURE, like a FOOTBALL PLAYER. You can be like Charles Barkley and say "i aint no one's role model" but the truth is, don jones was representing an organization and he needs to think about the consequences of every action he does.
     
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  22. Fin D

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    Clearly, you think contracts are wrong.
     
  23. Finfangirl

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    Im gay and i didnt like ESPN showing Sam in a private moment. But they did and as a responsible adult, i went on with my life. However, when i saw the reaction on twitter, i felt like the comments were insensitive. Maybe he was just reacting, maybe he thought about it first, we'll never know, the point is, that he needs to realize what consequences come with his actions. He's a public figure. And yes, i agree they should be punished for denigrating women, saying the N word, calling each other gay, threatening each other, and overall just being stupid. I think the NFL needs to have a "code of conduct" issued for social media and hold every one accountable or just tell them then cant have it. If you dont like the rules, then dont play in the NFL.
     
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  24. Two Tacos

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    Don't know. It didn't have the same level of attention. They might have never known.

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  25. So they are not pushing churchs to violate their beliefs by forcing them to provide funding for birth control and abortion centers?

    They are not forcing bakerys to sell wedding cakes to gay couples?

    They are not trying to force the entire Sterling family from the NBA over something said by Donald Sterling?

    They do not want to force people to stop using fossil fuels?

    They are not trying to stop people from smoking?

    They are not trying to tell me which foods and how much of them we eat?

    How can you seriously say that the progressives do not tell everyone how to live according to their own manifesto.
     
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  26. OkiePhin

    OkiePhin Well-Known Member

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    So do you think Jones should be fined and excused from team activities until he completes sensitivity training because you felt his tweets were insensitive? Honest question.
     
  27. You asked me for examples of conservatives who had liberal beliefs and that is what I gave you. Dont make more of it than that because thats all it was.
     
  28. Two Tacos

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    Straight couple that had the same attention they would have. For example an interracial couple or disabled girlfriend.

    No one wants to be equal to incest. That is an insulting straw man that you keep trying to drag in.

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  29. Shamboubou

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    Then essentially you feel the exact same as I do, you just happen to care about other peoples opinion of your sexuality more than I do I suppose. I would be 1000% in your corner if he used a derogitry slang name for Sam, or homosexuals in general, but to express his distaste for two men kissing is no different than expressing your distaste for anything. "OMG....horrible" expresses his same distaste for homosexuality as his fine and suspension express their distaste for his anti-homosexual beliefs. Nothing makes their belief any more right than his, other than they have the power to decide their opinion is more important.
     
  30. Finfangirl

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    Yes, because what he did was just as irresponsible - What if he had a gay fan, a young girl or boy, who possibly was contemplating suicide because they were gay and then they saw Don's tweet and that sent them over the edge? Not saying that would happen or that Don even has fans...lol, but What if? I just want him and all public figures to think about their actions and what the consequences might be or even the rewards before reacting. That's all im asking.
     
  31. Finfangirl

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    see my answer to Okiephin above.
     
  32. Fin D

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    That's not true.

    Should they not force bakeries to sell to jewish weddings if they don't want to either? Black couples?

    The other NBA owners are trying to force out Sterling and his family. Wanna guess if they are all progressive?

    lol. Non progressives want to force everyone to deal with climate change......

    Second hand smoke kills non smokers. Next you'll be trying to stop anti drinking and driving legislation.

    No. they are telling you which foods are healthy. You are free to eat whatever the hell you want.

    I dunno, probably because I'm too busy being told by conservatives what religion I should be, who can and cannot get married, where religious centers can be constructed, who is even allowed in the country, who can and cannot vote, told what is and what is not science, forced to put our children in schools where the teachers and school staff are allowed to be armed on school grounds, stopping people form doing anything they consider a sin and amoral.
     
  33. Fin D

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    For the billionth time, the Dolphins didn't punish him on moral grounds.
     
  34. OkiePhin

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    You are cherry picking it to be insulted. I also used plural relationships, straight relationships, victoria secrets commercials...
     
  35. Two Tacos

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    Yes, I'm "cherry picking" the incredibly insulting thing to be insulted by.

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  36. OkiePhin

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    I guess I should be just as unforgiving. You have inspired me to write the network and let them know of my disapproval of love fest I had to endure while watching a sporting event. You see I have a young child at home that is interested in sports. Why should he be subject to sexuality on television during a sports broadcast. I found the whole act shocking and insensitive to my family values. I steer clear of programming that depicts sexual acts of any nature which is why we watch sporting events. The network should be ashamed of themselves and I feel they owe the public an apology and should possibly be fined for their insensitive and provocative programming.
     
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  37. Finfangirl

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    WTF is that kind of answer - It's childish and silly - I SAID DON WAS JUST AS IRRESPONSIBLE AS ESPN for allowing the program to go that far. Plus, that was an intimate moment for Sam and i dont believe it should be on television. But, not because it was two men, I would think that was irresponsible if it were any two people - I dont like PDA. And since you are so inclined, go ahead and write to ESPN...im sure they'll take note if enough people do.


    and PS you cant shelter your kids forever - You're going to one day have to explain to them that everyone is different and that's ok. I only hope one day that your kids grow up to be more open minded than you.
     
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  38. keithjackson

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    I'd love it if the NFL banned all kissing, but I doubt it will happen.

    While we discuss the moral and political facets of this topic, all the NFL cares about is money. Michael Sam already has the number two selling jersey for all rookies. They don't care about people's rights or what some small time families are scared to see. When they see gay folks, they see dollar signs and these jersey sales are just proving the point. And every time one of their players tweets gross, it probably incenses another gay person into buying a jersey. I'm amazed how many of my gay friends want to buy his jersey, even though they aren't Rams fans, or football fans, and even though he might be on a different team by the start of the season.

    I honestly think we might see a "gay pride" weekend in the NFL where all the players wear rainbow crap. Sure they'll say it's for equal rights, but it will be to sell millions of dollars of rainbow merchandise. I should confess, that I think the pink month was invented to sell pink merchandise to women, and likewise every gay guy I know (and a lot of the women) would line up to buy a rainbow hat or jersey of their fav team - heck I would.

    The NFL is about making money, period.
     
  39. daphins

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    Yes, that is precisely what he meant. No employers should ever be able to reprimand employees, and contracts should under no conditions be legal....ever.

    Way to drill to the core of his argument and not draw wildly inaccurate parallels.
     
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  40. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    That actually makes sense.
     
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