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The Miami Dolphins are inept collectively at Social Media

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Vinny Fins, May 10, 2014.

  1. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    good
     
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  2. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    I wonder if they made Mike Pouncey delete it for his rookie jokes that riffed on last seasons locker room drama from Thursday night.
     
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  4. NaboCane

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    Pouncey is just a ****ing moron. We will be replacing him sooner or later, count on it. Stupid is in his nature; he can't help it.
     
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  5. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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    What we should do is trade for Markice Pouncey and then release one of them.

    WHO IS IT Hrrmmm?
     
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  6. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Its absolutely that cut and dry.

    If bigots didn't make being gay and issue, then there'd be no milking the fact that you're the first openly drafted gay player.
     
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  7. Killer Bees

    Killer Bees Bringin' the Ruckus

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    I hope not he's one of the top centers in the NFL, he gets it done on the field.
     
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  8. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Exactly the point.

    If no makes a big deal out of one consenting adult kissing another consenting adult, then there's no publicity.

    Imagine that.
     
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  9. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Hmm, what exactly do they stand for?
     
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  10. SICK

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    Sad truth, but it is truth. Hes a pro bowler and a damn fine center, young, and a leader on the team. You don't get rid of that in todays nfl because hes a social moron (which he is).
     
  11. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    I don't mind the joke, its kind of funny (I'm the type to laugh at jokes others groan at), but a football player on social media is not the right context. Especially when you've been photogrpahed wearing a "Free Hernandez" shirt. That's like wearing a "Free Charles Manson" shirt. Idiotic.
     
  12. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Yeah, that's gracious.

    Just as an individual has a right to do what Sam did - those who find the practice immoral and offensive have a right to express their perspective and be respected, even in disagreement. When yo

    When you don't respect that option and respect the opposing view that opens the door to those with power to one day trash you or shut down your voice - when their Political Correctness goes against your own moral perspectives. And not just do so through politically correct rhetoric but worse. It becomes a power play and such ungracious responses become self-defeating. As well as simply being ungracious (regardless of which side of the controverted issue one stands).
     
  13. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I can respect that they have an opinion, however I do not respect them because they have that opinion.

    So basically what you are saying is that if someone had the opinion that it should be law that all children under the age of five have to be raped, you have to respect their opinion, and if you don't, you would just be opening the doors to having your voice shut down.
     
  14. Fin D

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    A bigoted view doesn't deserve respect. And no, that's not bigoted. Just as not respecting a racist view is not bigoted. People are equal, ideas are not.
     
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  15. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    This is problematic as well. There are many who are not prejudicial against gays engaging in the world fully - but still find their behavior immoral and repulsive - and that does not make them bigoted or stupid.

    I have no problem with your going to work and engaging in full benefits of life even if you are a serial adulterer or drunkard. It doesn't mean that I find that practice acceptable or moral in any way. But finding adultery an unconscionable and repulsive practice doesn't make one a bigot.

    Relating to those on the opposite side (those who disagree with homosexual practices, for example) of an issue, however, with disdain and disrespect is itself bigoted - "having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one's own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others."
     
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  16. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Thus sayeth the Fascist.

    And some lil doggies are not worth listening to at all
     
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  17. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    See the above observations. There are rational reasons for categorizing racism and homosexuality differently. Indeed people are equal but saying "ideas are not" is itself a sign of bigotry, by definition. But, more than that, one can say everyone who expresses a moral view, by such a standard as the above one you're expressing - to be a bigot. It simply is not the case.

    I am repulsed by adultery - as most people are - are they bigots? But in that disagreement I still love many people who have engaged in those practices and treat them with respect and care and love. It doesn't change how I feel about the practice. Expressing respectful disagreement and even finding a practice immoral (not the desire, the practice) - while simultaneously loving that person and in no way hindering their freedom to practice such activities or to even to be treated with the same rights and standing as all others in society is a far cry from being a bigot (and such broad categorizations fail to engender honorable discourse - on both the conservative and liberal side). Put it into another way - I was repulsed by Bill Clinton's actions with Monica Lewinsky - but I still respected him as President and even have found him to be one of the best Presidents, policy-wise, in the past 50+ years.
     
  18. Fin D

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    I'm not sure how you get breaking vows and hurting loved ones by cheating on them is the same thing as being gay. Also, adulterers are allowed to get married again and have spousal rights when they do.

    Saying ideas aren't equal is not bigotry. I no more need to respect anti-gay views then I do anti-jew views. Ideas are ether. Consenting adults are concrete. You are conflating too many concepts and trying to make them equal for purposes of justifying bigotry against a group of people.
     
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  19. Disgustipate

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    You don't have a right to demand respect for your ideas or speech. You've got a right to express an opinion, but negative reactions to it are not an infringement of that right. It's someone employing their very own rights in reaction to what you expressed . Respect is based entirely on the merit of your idea, you don't get to demand deference for whatever awful **** you cook up. Anti-gay sentiments aren't reviled because of some sort of wide-scale Pavlovian experiment in political correctness that has society jump on any sort of legitimate difference of opinion- It's because most of society at this point thinks you are an *******.

    The idea that intolerance for bigotry is in itself somehow an equally vile intolerance completely misses the boat. There is a merit-based judgement possible on the worth of these ideas, and if you want a fair shake on that one you deserve whatever hole you've got to crawl down to find like-minded people.
     
  20. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Well said. It's funny how "why does it matter if player X is gay" almost ALWAYS = "I don't like gays"

    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
     
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  21. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Either ideas turn out to be true over time, or they do not, that is where respect for thought generates from, not some mealy persons need for prep H b/c they got their feelings hurt
     
  22. Fin D

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    lol. Riddle me this, why is it when I disregard bigoted ideas I'm a facist and a bigot, but when you disregard my ideas you aren't?

    I guess if I had an idea that dogs can sprout wings and fly that should be treated with same respect as the ideas that founded this country....right?

    Please, Mr. Pseudo Intellect, enlighten us as to how that conundrum works makes prefect sense.
     
  23. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Is there a time limit?

    I mean, if I hypothetically thought that you were someone who had sex with goats, would that be a respected idea until you make it to your deathbed without having sex with goats?
     
  24. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I'll answer that, if you answer me this, where are the limits and where and when is dissension able to be aired without some tin pot fascist *****ing about this or that opinion?
     
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  25. padre31

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    Thank you for making my point for me
     
  26. GARDENHEAD

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    Oh yeah, well it's my "view" that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. They are too emotional to do be allowed to vote. Are you not allowed to call me an idiot? Cultural relativism can only go so far. At a certain point, reasonable people are allowed to call BS and say someone's being a bigoted idiot.
     
  27. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I dunno, padre, aren't you steady *****ing about my opinion?
     
  28. pmj

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    Rather than try to debate whether an opinion should be respected, why don't you explain your opinion, if it is your opinion, that being gay (and all that entails) is immoral and reprehensible? Your opinion, if it deserves respect, can then be weighed on its own merits.

    Although I will say, if the opinion just boils down to a religious text telling you so, you can't really expect anyone not believing the same religious text (or interpreting it the same way) to respect your opinion.
     
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  29. DPlus47

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    The most butthurt people I see and hear on a regular basis are the people who are pissed that they can't call other people names anymore without facing consequences. They're definitely the real victims.
     
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  30. DPlus47

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    He's a decent center, but he's not Dwight Stephenson. He can be replaced. If the bolded part is true, then the team is going to have more problems moving forward.
     
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  31. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Is your computer made by Chrysler....cause that ^ post is a dodge.
     
  32. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    This is ridiculous.

    I don't get two f***s about respect for ideas and opinions. I care about creating the best possible world. The best possible world is not filled with gay bashing. I don't have to respect anyone who disagrees or their right to say it.
     
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  33. djphinfan

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    Because he's gay ?
     
  34. Finfangirl

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    I dont care about Don jones or his opinion - However, the problem with both him and pouncey is they both made comments on social media as EMPLOYEES of the Miami Dolphins - Which is just plain dumb - considering the situation both of them just went through not more than 4 months ago. Maybe it was a joke for pouncey, but in both cases, it shows a lack of judgement and maturity and an employer should not have to tolerate that.

    that is all, carry on.
     
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  35. padre31

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    Heh, such conceit, if i did not have respect for ppl i'd happily just call it like i see it.
     
  36. padre31

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    Nope, you amuse me
     
  37. Fin D

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    You first post in this thread is insulting me and my opinion, now that your hypocrisy has been laid bare for all, you pretend you're nonchalant.

    Pathetic.
     
  38. cdz12250

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    Let me take a stab at this.

    Suppose you are grossed out by seeing a PDA between two gay guys on national television. This is visceral and instinctive and may even be the result of conditioning, or the bigotry you were exposed to while growing up, but let's say it's involuntary. You are grossed out on a subconscious level; at the level of the id.

    There are two things that should happen at the conscious level; the level of the superego. First, your sense of fairness should tell you that these guys have as much of a right to be in love as you do, and that kissing the one you love at one of the happiest moments of his life was not done to gross you out.

    Second, your sense of what is socially appropriate, meaning your MANNERS, should prevent you from broadcasting a tweet to the entire world to the effect that you are grossed out, because it hurts others.

    If you send a tweet like that, regarless of your id-reaction that you can't help, either your sense of fairness, or your manners, or both aren't working right. You haven't thought it through.

    Finally, if you send the tweet because get a kick out of bashing gays on social media, then congratulations: you are a bigot.
     
  39. Stitches

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    To be fair, I don't think there's anything that says the Dolphins (or any team) has to.
     
  40. daphins

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    Who said they were pissed about not being able to call someone names without consequences?
     

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