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Vote: Dan Marino vs. Joe Montana for Greatest QB of All Time

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by CaribPhin, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

  2. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Vote's not going well... 76% to 24% in favor of Montana... Ouch.
     
  3. CaribPhin

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    That's pretty much why I posted this here.
     
  4. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Naturally, I'm gonna say Dan of course. Montana got the rings because of the team he had around him, and an amazing offensive mind at head coach. On top of that, Montana had a humble air about himself that strikes well with the general fan base. But when it comes to pure passing skills, it would have to be Dan.

    Not at all surprised by the vote %.
     
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  5. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    Geez... that "Millenials" bracket is weak as hell.

    McNabb and Bledsoe?
    Come on .... neither should even be mentioned in the same breath as any of the others left in the discussion.
    Just erase the bracket...... embarrassing.
     
  6. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    dan won't stand a chance on this vote
     
  7. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Russell Wilson beat Peyton Manning. Fans, on average, tend to be idiots.
     
  8. bakedmatt

    bakedmatt Well-Known Member

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    They're just voting for their guy. My guess is there's a Seahawks forum somewhere that really cares about this.
     
  9. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's a joke. Rich Gannon beat Brett Favre, McNabb beat Kurt Warner, Bledsoe beat Aikman.
     
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  10. wpgfishfan

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    And Marino beating Elway!!!!!!!


    I kid I kid. But some fans would not agree with our boy winning that round
     
  11. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    It's just a stupid fun thing for fans to do. Russell Wilson will be declared the greatest qb of all time on this little game NFL.com is doing, mostly to generate clicks/revenue. Don't need this game to know who are the best quarterbacks to ever play the game.

    Me personally I never cared for "who's the best" of any sport, such a ridiculous debate, too many rule changes and many types of changes in medicine to get into that debate. Moon and Favre switch teams and Warren would have a Super Bowl ring, but Favre would still be considered an all time great with the Oilers. Switch teams Marino with Montana and Marino would have several rings and Montana would still be a hall of fame quarterback.
     
  12. the 23rd

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    Montana, hands down the best. have to be an incurable homer to go with Dan over Montana...
     
  13. 666Dog

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    No way 23rd. Dan was the better QB. Montana had the better teams.
     
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  14. FanMarino

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    Better arm. Big Joe would say it. Montana is a gent as well as a true QB. Brady is Montana Mk2. Hate to say it. Only 3 QBs I've had cause to hate during my time as a Dolphin fan. Montana, Kelly and Brady. Montana and Kelly I have learned to respect. I still hate Brady...fact. That will not change . ;)
     
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  15. FanMarino

    FanMarino Season Ticket Holder

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    You talking tangibles or supporting cast? Our of interest?
     
  16. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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  17. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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  18. CashInFist

    CashInFist Well-Known Member

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    Ur smurttur tehn Bill Walsh...
     
  19. dolphindebby

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    poop!
     
  20. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    [video=youtube;EQ0CW1whH9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ0CW1whH9Q[/video]

    I am more than happy to say I am a huge homer.

    I think if you replace Marino with Montana, 49ers still win superbowls, and Miami still wins zero.
     
  21. Da 'Fins

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    Marino was the better passer but I think Montana a more efficient overall QB. Montana made far fewer mistakes and was more detailed (his ball fakes were great, for example while Dan's were non-existent.

    Montana is very gracious in praising Marino as arguably the greatest thrower in history. I concur.

    One thing is for sure in my view - Marino is clearly a better QB than Elway. Half of Elway's come
    Backs were because he sucked so bad early in the game.
     
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  22. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    I'm with that 100%.
     
  23. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yes, because some random guy who wrote an article should be believed over the guy that coached Montana to all of his Super Bowls (and is regarded as one of the best offensive minds in the history of the sport).
     
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    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    A guy who wouldn't even put his name on the article. Why ? Because it is ridiculous.

    I'll bet the 23rd wrote it....lol
     
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  25. Da 'Fins

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    Here's a great piece on 4th Quarter Comebacks that demonstrates Marino is at the very top (over Elway). Not sure if Manning has passed him up since the piece was written.

    It really undermines the myth about Elway.

    But, the one caveat I would add is that Marino had some tremendous 4th quarter games and drives that would have been game winning drives or comebacks had he had any semblance of a defense. I can't count the number of times Marino put Miami in the lead, often within the last two minutes, only to see the D collapse and lose the game. Really, some of those defenses in the mid-late 80's, right in Dan's prime, were arguably the worst Ds in the history of the franchise and some of the worst defense played in NFL history.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3401
     
  26. Da 'Fins

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  27. Griese's Glasses

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    Dan is more than just a hero to Fins fans...he approaches divinity...however to everyone else he will always be the guy who went to 1 SB and lost. Respected, admired, but never held in serious contention as the GOAT of QBs, which is sad but that is the way the world works.

    Of course most people don't realize or appreciate that rings and SB wins are team efforts. No single QB, coach or yahoo can will their team to victory, the team has to do that. Dan had a team problem, not the team having a Dan problem.
     
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  28. Montana played with numerous great players meanwhile most football fans can't name 1 WR or RB that Marino shared the field with.
     
  29. CaribPhin

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    Everybody knows Clayton and Duper. One was a record setter. But he never had Rice, Clark, or Craig over his whole career, let alone at the same time.

    Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk
     
  30. 77FinFan

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    Man I loved him. High knees, none of that shoestring tackle crap that gets my blood boiling.
     
  31. 666Dog

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    I loved them both, but let's be honest, Clayton and Duper had decent hands, but they were great because of Dan. They were both about 5'9" and 180lbs and neither were HoF caliber players.
     
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    They played like the were hall HOF players.
    They caught the ball and ran.
    They were great. IMO
    And Nat Moore.
     
  33. Griese's Glasses

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    Receivers weren't the problem....not even the run game was bad...the defense...the defense let in more points than Dan could throw for.
     
  34. 666Dog

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    They were great because Dan made them great. Like I said, I loved them. They weren't HoF caliber WR's though. And I'm a huge homer.
     
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  35. 666Dog

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    The running game was atrocious. Dan had one 1000 yard rusher his entire career.
     
  36. Air2theThrown

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    From an outsider looking in....

    I think most knowledgable NFL fans recognized Marino for what he was.

    Marino was one of the greatest passers of all time. He made throws very few QBs could make. He had a pocket presence that was unbelievable. He would side step and move in the pocket just enough to avoid blitzes and make plays.

    Marino had several solid and good players on the team with him during his time but he never really had great players or difference makers. His team was never a complete team. Not to mention I recall later in Marinos carreer that his OL was terrible. He seemed to get creamed and pressured to often.

    The thing is when you lack a run game and you don't have difference makers at WR your team becomes much easier to defend.
     
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  37. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Amen...I've seen few with the will to win that would rival Dan's.

    Oh...and F*** Montana!
     
  38. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    And this is why we're so spoiled. Those of us lucky enough to have witnessed his entire career will never be the same. My favorite all-time football moment was the fake spike...I still get all excited and the biggest smile in the world when I watch the replay.

    Leon Lett may be a distant 2nd :)
     
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