I can get on board w/ him. It would be ballsy to see if we could trade back and still get him. Probably just blow up in our faces though.
Love the dude. No complaints if he's the pick at 19. Really you wouldn't hear a complaint out of me if the pick at 19 were any one of these players: QB Teddy Bridgewater QB Blake Bortles RB Lache Seastrunk RB Tre Mason WR Sammy Watkins WR Mike Evans WR Brandin Cooks WR Allen Robinson TE Eric Ebron TE Jace Amaro OT Jake Matthews OT Taylor Lewan OT Greg Robinson DT Aaron Donald DT Ra'Shede Hageman DE Jadaveon Clowney LB Khalil Mack LB C.J. Mosley CB Kyle Fuller CB Jason Verett The closest I'd come to complaining on any of those players would be perhaps the running backs because I have two I like as much as one another and I feel like one of them could be had in the 2nd round. It wouldn't be so much a valuation criticism as a game strategy criticism. I am making a slight need-based call by not including Anthony Barr and Kony Ealy, mind you. Notice there are 20 guys there so 2 of them are guaranteed to be there. I believe at least 5 or 6 of them will be available, in actuality.
I see there's no Zach Martin here, which is who I keep seeing mocked to us with a 'no brainer' type of caption. I think 19 is a ltittle too high for him too, given the talent you listed, and at least one of those guys has to be there. A few weeks ago I wasn't into Mosley at 19, but I think he's growing on me. Well-rounded game, nice length, and does a nice job keeping his feet in traffic with that quickness he has. I just wish he showed more sound fundamental tackling being the guy in the middle of the defense. Gotta keep looking at LBs as it seems to be a more obvious area of need after FA. I like Mason a bit more than Seastrunk at this point - just looks like he has that NFL 'positive yardage at all costs' mentality and toughness that our RB group lacks at the moment, knows when/how to take on contact, love how his compact build translates to the next level and how he uses it to squeeze through tight spots and explode. I like how he was able to handle the volume of carries at Auburn as well, got that workhorse drive in him.
that's assuming steroids weren't involved, which is a big assumption. Ogletree put on sustainable real weight. Shazier appears to have put on showy roid mass. If Ogletree needed to roid up to gain weight, he would've looked jacked too. Secondly, this isn't a Mr Olympia contest, so the end goal in this instance isn't about how ripped Shazier can get. It's about him putting on enough mass to handle the physical toll of the NFL and so that he's not thrown around like a rag doll. So I'd say Shazier looking ripped is a negative b/c he's not someone who needs to be dropping body fat like an overweight defensive end; he needs to be gaining weight, period. If he gained REAL weight, it would've included some body fat as well, which would've left him looking less ripped. But he didn't gain an ounce of fat; if anything he probably dropped some, which leads me to believe it was mostly water weight, hence roid induced.
... plus one ignorant individual who believes only doctors can comprehend the stuff being discussed here. With how opinionated you are in general, I'm guessing by the nature of your comment that you have 120 different degrees to support your abundance of various opinions, eh?
Pray tell, what do I pretend to be an expert in? There's a difference between having an opinion on personnel moves, politics, or economics (which I'm trained in), and putting forward a definitive analysis of someone's physiology and human physiology in general. Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk
Watching the Penn State clip from Ludacris' post, the guy who caught my eye most was Penn State RG John Urschel. I'm not sure if he's as nimble as the Dolphins' staff would want, but he's pretty much always on his assignment, keeps his feet moving and clears some nice holes. I think there was only one play where he let off his man and Hackenberg should have thrown it away well before. I'd be interested in a later round as tabbing him for depth. Much like Sam Brenner, he's certainly not the prettiest prospect in terms of size, weight, athleticism, etc., but just a guy who gets the job done. He's also EXTREMELY smart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKZQFgmYL1M
I hope Philbin might see an Evan Dietrich-Smith when/if they review tape of John Urschel. He's no Logan Mankins, but there's something to be said for a tough, smart, physical player and I think he'll find a home. I'd love to see him in Miami and I think he'd be a late-round/UDFA steal.
The fact Ryan weighed 210 or so almost his whole career speaks volumes, why would he just now exercise that high level "work ethic"?? He hit the sauce because he knows it's his shot to get PAID. Shazier was recruited as a skinny DE who beat other high school kids with his quickness I'm sure. Why on earth is he just now beefing up?
If we take Teddy Bridgewater I swear on everything holy I will go buy a Tom Brady jersey then hang around here needling you guys for sucking another 15 years. I'm only like 75% sold on Tanny, but that move would be the final straw.
I'd be interested to know what Shazier would look like as a playmaking in-the-box strong safety, especially in a Cover-3 scheme where he could be more of a safety/linebacker hybrid with minimal worry about deep coverage.
Funny you say that because I flirted with the idea yesterday he would maybe be a decent S. If he is asked to help over the top as opposed to shifty slot guys who are good in space he could be effective.
I don't get that. Even at a lighter weight, he's still shown to be effective as a Mike/Will type of LB. Even with his supped-up frame, I still think he's more Lavonte David than any sort of safety.
Does that mean every team that already has a good WILL linebacker should take Shazier off their board?.... or do you think it's worthwhile for those particular teams to toy with the idea of converting him into a safety/linebacker hybrid? Personally I don't see the Lavonte David comparison. David is a special player. As recently as Shazier's final college game he couldn't prevent from getting washed out left and right, so how is he supposed to handle it at the next level? He earns the double whammy in this regard b/c half of it was due to being slow to diagnose, and the other half was because he was awful about letting blockers get in on him. He plays passively and tackles passively too often for my taste. Lavonte on the other hand didn't display these deficiencies. He wasn't the liability vs the run that Shazier has been. So why not consider making Shazier a safety/linebacker hybrid where his liability vs the run is diminished and where weight gain and maintenance is no longer an issue?
I don't get the Shazier should be a safety argument. Daryl Washington came out of TCU as an undersized 230 pound ILB and he is now still only 238lbs playing ILB for the Cardinals and has had a good career so far. I think people over think things too much.
I really don't understand the whole Daryl Washington argument. He's not the norm. He's an exception, yet you and a few others treat it as though if Washington can do it then anyone can, and that's false logic. Have you seen Shazier play at even close to 237 or display a capacity to hold that much weight during an actual season? Has Shazier done anything to instilled a level of confidence that he can prevent his smaller size from getting washed out in the NFL? Here's his final college game where he should be his biggest, strongest, and most evolved as a player, as well as should be playing with the most on the line. Please illustrate where his size isn't a hinderance. There's a reason Daryl Washington & Lavonte David find success as undersized linebackers. It's not just random chance. If you can show me where Shazier shares that same reason, then I'll start thinking he can share similar success despite being undersized. [video=youtube;2Po4n2xehbc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2Po4n2xehbc[/video]
Nobody said he SHOULD be a Saftey, it's merely suggested he could be an ideal fit there given his straight line speed and tackling ability (and only being blocked by WRs and TEs)
You are showing me a guy who takes on blocks and makes tackles. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove with the video. That's a good game from him. It's not perfect but it's a good game. Here's a video of Daryl Washington at TCU. Shazier 2013 is better than Washington 2009. I'm not saying that if Washington can do it therefore Shazier can do it. I am saying if Washington can do it, it does not mean that it can't be done...there's a difference! False logic? smh seriously? try that again. [video=youtube;E0gc2ODyM1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0gc2ODyM1w[/video]
I don't see much wrong with Shazier's play in that game. He's constantly around the ball (just about every play he was either making the tackle, finishing up the tackle, or just around the ball by the end of the play). He has great instincts. He kept containment on every single read option they had/didn't fall for any fake end arounds. He's a great tackler. Yeah, he got caught flat footed/juked a couple times in space, but what do you expect out of a LB on an island with Sammy Watkins coming at you. Yeah, he doesn't power through blockers as well because he has a smaller frame, but I felt like he did alright in that aspect in parts of his game (I've watched a lot of film on him), and adding size/strength can come. 4.36 speed at almost 240LBS and his natural instincts can't be taught. Shazier, to me, is a great early-mid 2nd round prospect as a weakside 4-3 OLB. Seems like the perfect fit for him. I wouldn't want us to take him at 19, but I wouldn't be pissed if we traded down to the late 20s and snagged him.
