True Detective

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  1. NaboCane

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    I don't see any way that this wraps up in any sort of satisfactory fashion in the last episode. They'd have to betray the pace of the show to now, and that would be artificial.

    I think after going somewhere else in S02, S03 is about the further adventures of Rust and Marty.
     
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  2. NaboCane

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    Great idea for a new anthology show: model it after 'NBC Mystery Movie' which had a tri-weekly rotation of 'McCloud,' 'McMillan and Wife,' and 'Colombo.'

    Six ninety-minute eps each for 18 total per season. NMM ran for seven seasons, never got stale. Better than having to wait almost a whole year between installments, like we do now with AHS and this.
     
  3. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    Best line from episode 7. "If you were drowning, I'd throw you a f***ing barbell."
     
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  4. MIASportsFan

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    Doubt she is based on how episode 7 went and how the preview for ep. 8 looks
     
  5. daphins

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    He only met him once. Probably blew it off as a patchy beard like all of us viewers
     
  6. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    so the guy at the end of last week's episode on the lawn mower, and the guy on the lawn mower in that picture posted earlier are one and the same right? and that's the Yellow King? BTW, I don't think that was Remis from the show Boardwalk Empire.

    We need a wiki to keep track of all the Tuttles, Ledouxs and now Chambliss (or whatever that last name was)
     
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  7. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    The lawnmower guys are the same. But I'm not sure if he is the Yellow King or even if the Yellow King is a person. It could be a "thing." It may be a ritual or a series of acts, like the one Hart saw on TV. I think Carcosa is a place or at least a state of mind
     
  8. Stringer Bell

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    Dont think the yellow king is an actual person.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
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  9. Fin D

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    I beg to differ....
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Samphin

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    I decided that it would be a good idea to binge watch the first seven episodes tonight to make sure I was truly aware of everything and could remind myself of some smaller details.

    I now feel that that was a mistake and my head hurts...assuming my head even really, truly exists...
     
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  11. Sethdaddy8

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    I was about to do this, and it was going to be very difficult for me to pull off. Thank you!
     
  12. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    I rewatched them and I enjoyed it as much as the first time. Easier to follow too, lol.
     
  13. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    lmfao
     
  14. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    yeah i was going to go back and watch at least the first episode or two... but then I thought I'd need to watch them all after that... so i got scared. If I watch them all, then I'll feel like I've done that before, and life will be a circle.

    Has anyone seen the movie Killer Joe? He was pretty good in that too... that movie was nuts by the way...
     
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  15. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    My wife won't watch it so I end up seeing it later on right before bed. It's a little dicey some nights. I'll put on Seinfeld or The Office to clean my brain a bit before falling asleep
     
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  16. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Along the shore the cloud waves break,
    The twin suns sink behind the lake,
    The shadows lengthen

    In Carcosa.

    Strange is the night where black stars rise,
    And strange moons circle through the skies,
    But stranger still is

    Lost Carcosa.

    Songs that the Hyades shall sing,
    Where flap the tatters of the King,
    Must die unheard in

    Dim Carcosa.

    Song of my soul, my voice is dead,
    Die thou, unsung, as tears unshed
    Shall dry and die in

    Lost Carcosa.

    —"Cassilda's Song" in The King in Yellow Act 1, Scene 2
     
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  17. Paul 13

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    my wife was watching it in the kitchen while i was on my computer... so it was playing in the background... it was about half way thru and it piqued my interest. (his little scene with Dottie)...
     
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  18. GreysonWinfield

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    Columbo was awesome.
     
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  20. NaboCane

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    Oh, ****...found out who the Yellow King is, and the big reveal tonight. Don't look if you don't want to be spolied!

    [​IMG]
     
  22. Claymore95

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    I've avoided this thread until now as hadn't watched any of it yet, but have just binge watched the first 7 eps over the last couple of nights and this show is phenomenal. Totally bleak as hell, but fascinating nevertheless. McConaughey and Harrelson have been tremendous, and whoever plays the leads in the next season will have a hard act to follow.
     
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  23. Samphin

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    Tonight's episode has brief nudity (yay!) and says that they get a new lead in their 17 year old case. It is also only an hour, so I am not sure how this all wraps up in a nest little package tonight.

    Something tells me we may have been misled somewhat.
     
  24. I can see how they can wrap this all up tonight. The guy on the fishing boat can fill in the missing pieces.
     
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    You're causing me so much inner pain right now... must.not.look. 1 and 1/2 hour to go....
     
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  26. GreysonWinfield

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    Almost time, BEOTCHES!!!!
     
  27. phinswolverinesrockets

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    that beginning scene almost made me vomit...lol
     
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  28. BicketyBam

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    That was an awesome ending. Loved it.
     
  29. Sethdaddy8

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    Yeah, well....sometimes we all tend to over think things. This did unfold organically, simply. I blame Nick Saban for our over complicating ways.
     
  30. BicketyBam

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    It terms of a whodunnit, it turned out to be pretty straight forward. But as far as the character development, I didn't expect it to turn out the way things did. I liked that both Marty and Rust ended with a feeling of hope. Then again, I am a sucker for a happy ending.
     
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  32. Sethdaddy8

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    Yeah I like the happy ending too. I don't need to be depressed or feel like **** after an 8 hour investment. I do think things were condensed a bit. I at least was expecting a bit more than bringing down just one monster at the end. I thought they'd expose and topple more of a conspiracy. Then again, maybe next season will be about others from that clan. A different cast, but same line.
     
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  33. The ending very much so reminded me of a modernized Lovecraft story. It encapuslated the same common themes he likes to use and they pulled it off better than others who have attempted it.

    For those of who are unfamiliar with his work:

    He wrote for a magazine in the early 1900's and this format dictated that he wrote short condensed stories.

    Almost all of his stories involve man finding a way to connect to an ancient force that predates mankind. The portal is often opened through ritual sacrifices, the use of symbols, etc...

    The men involved typical have ancestoral roots and the cerimonies to conjur these forces are passed on from generation to generation.

    The ritual locations are typically in secluded locations that were built centuries past.

    The forces they tap into always have a dark price attached to them and anyone who came into contact with these forces ends up insane.

    I was very skeptical when I started hearing people make literary comparissons to Lovecraft. I am also highly critical of writers who try to pay homage to him. I can tell you over the years they have really butchered his works with the efforts I have seen.

    True Decteive I am very happily impressed with. The short simplistic style, the end reveal, the complex deepness behind the simple story on the surface, and the narration of the story from begining to end really did remind me of a Lovecraft story. The guy wrote more than just the Call of Cthula (which did not really resemble this story) and trust me when I say True Dective carried many of Lovecrafts hallmarks within it.

    I give season 1 an A+ grade.
     
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  34. NaboCane

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    I agree, I liked that aspect of the ending. Too many writers today trying to show how "deep" they are by killing characters (lookin' at you, Walking Dead).

    I'm disappointed too that all that grief could have been caused by one demented **** and his Sheriff daddy covering for him, aided by the hackneyed drunk cops. And the smarmy slimeball religion huckster, who clearly knew something, just skates without even a mention in passing?

    I give the 7 episodes before the last a 9.5, but this last one gets about an 8 from me. Barely an 8.
     
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    Can anyone translate WTF McCouney said at the very end? 4 times I rewound it and all I get is "did you ever think you are looking at it the wrong way. That the dark mumble mumble mumble".
     
  36. Sethdaddy8

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    They were talking about the sky and light vs dArk and I had to put closed captioning on for it too. He said "looks like the light is winning" or something like that, if not exactly that.
     
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  37. Sethdaddy8

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    "Can ya see Billy makin flowers" or something to that effect, may be the most quotable line I heard in a long while.
     
  38. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    I liked the season, but there is a very real aspect of the show not really telling you anything. You think that beyond the doors in front of you there is a mass of content and exposition. In reality, the doors either never open or when they do, there isn't much behind them. It's a bit of a shell game and like a lot of other shows that pretend to have much deeper things behind them that they never actually get around to telling you...because it doesn't exist. I'll contrast this with Game of Thrones. Behind every door is an endless pit of information. Whether this is a fair comparison or not doesn't matter to me because if a show is creating a facade, it needs to be called out

    Think of it this way: If you never did research on the inspiration of the season with The King in Yellow/Yellow King and Carsosa and what that was all about, you would have never known about it from just the show. All we really get is the blabbering of some crazy people. Even in the end we don't know if Rust was actually seeing the things that made others lose their minds or if it was just his acid brain seeing things (something he reminded us about)

    There was a crap ton of misdirection and I wonder what the point of it all was in retrospect.

    I enjoyed the experience, but I'm not sure what I would get from re-watching it.
     
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  39. Sethdaddy8

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    I agree. Why tease with the Carcosa? Especially when they visited the elderly maid who bugged out when she saw the pictures. Why mention Carcosa and chase a yellow king, just to track down and blow out the back of one maniac's head, and have it end there?
    I get not answering all the viewers questions, but this is a bit different. Great viewing none the less. But I hear you.
     
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    Next time on Law & Order: E.M.O.

    Seriously, I watched this whole thing because you guys kept swearing by it even though I didn't like the first couple of episodes. I thought that maybe I was missing something and it would all become clear as to why this show is "awesome". You guys now owe me 8 hours.

    This show was nothing more than a failed James Patterson novel dipped in Johnny Cash's depression and stretched out over 8 hours.
     

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