Now this, my friends, is what real cap hell looks like:http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Cowboys&Year=2014 Look at that dead money they are carrying. Miles Austin will be gone and Carr will restructure but there will still be a long way to go to get below the cap. http://footballpros.com/content.php/2830-2014-Cap-Casualties-NFC-East?postid=178164 DeMarcus Ware could easily become a cap casualty as well. That would still leave them with zilch to sign free agents and not even enough cap to sign their draft picks. Jerry Jones is going to need cheap players to fill out his roster and he may even have to consider trading away his round 1 pick in the draft. Mid first round picks still get hefty bonuses that hit the cap even after the rule changes. Could the Dolphins offer the Cowboys a few experienced, yet cheap players that would allow the Cowboys to release a couple big money guys. I know blockbuster trades are rare in the NFL, but I have never seen a more ripe situation. On the other hand, if Jerry Jones was a good decision maker he wouldn't be in this position. Dion Jordan appears buried behind Olivier Vernon. Vernon's salary is 590,000. By trading their 1st round pick the Cowboys could release Ware and get a 7 mil cap savings and avoid having to take the cap hit of a mid first round pick while still maintaining quality personnel at DE. Dolphins could also add Jonathan Martin to the deal. Giving Jerry the ability to also release Doug Free. Martin's salary is around 750,000. Dolphins could also throw in Daniel Thomas to the deal to add even more value. The Cowboys have nothing but crap on their roster behind Murray, and I mean crap. Yes, even Daniel Thomas would be a big improvement, and his salary is 816,000. I challenge you to look closely at how much this kind of deal would help the Cowboys. The cap relief from this deal wouldn't just be for 2014. It would help the Cowboys for a few years down the road. Vernon had a much better year than Ware and is still a pup. Ware will be 32 this summer. Martin sucks IMO, but his run blocking was improving and he does have a lot of starting experience. I want the Dolphins to acquire Toby Gerhart in March so Daniel Thomas is totally expendable IMO. Now the Dolphins would have some real flexibility in the 1st round, they could afford to draft Zach Martin and convert him to OG where some expect he will become an all-pro; and there would still be another high pick. Yes, Vernon would be a big sacrifice, and there would be some dead money(minimal), but the OL need is enormous. Would you make the Cowboys an offer?
I am sure Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland would have been interested but I am not sure Hickey has the same connections .IMO all of the players mentioned have seen their better days.However the Dolphin players mentioned have not been a good fit for the Dolphins so such a deal could be possible if not probable.
Jerry should probably bring back Ireland. It would be in their best interests, and would make the possibilities of something like this much more likely ! I'd definitely consider shopping Vernon for a 1st rounder. You cant compete without an o-line.... besides, we already have Wake and Jordan...... we may need a starting caliber DT, or even two. Getting rid of Martin and Thomas would just be icing on the cake. Take em.
shopping Vernon while his value is higher is a good idea, IMO. If Jordan does pick up his game next year and gets >50% of the snaps, then Vernon's value drops.
We draft the guy. We develope the guy. He has a great year opposite Wake. He is acending. Keep him and make Jordon a hybrid linebacker. Pick at 19 and take Martin. Let's not try to get cute.
Dallas always finds some crazy way to pay players, I don't see them panicking and making trades that are unfavorable. Their draft picks are their only hope, I don't see them trading them unless its trading down and picking up more picks. And why would we want to get rid of cheap players that have value? We have a lot of holes on the roster and our own free agents to sign, we need space too.
Not sure these moves help us though. We are still on the hook for their rookie contracts... At the very least, these guys are quality backups. And all that has to happen is for any of those guys to say, "Hey...I don't want to leave Miami"....Martin has already sold the team out once, what's to say he wouldn't do it again ??
Pick up his game? Jordan flashed and played well when he had the opportunity to get on the field. It's not his fault the Dolphins coaching staff didn't make more of an effort to utilize him. Vernon played well in year two, I agree. However, he wasn't a consistent or dominate pass rusher. In fact, Jordan graded out better as a pass rusher. Vernon is a solid but unspectacular player, much in the vain of Trace Armstrong, Ogun, Mixon, Bromwell, etc... who all benefited from a more dominate edge rusher on the opposite side. I would rather Dion Jordan be given more opportunities to develop his run stopping and pass rushing ability given his ceiling. Pick #19 should be the BPA too, not just the best lineman available. Vernon Carey > Vince Wilfork says hi.
I just can't see anyone taking on Vernon, Martin and Thomas, even if it does significantly reduce their bottom line. Remember, Martin was close to being benched and Thomas is widely viewed as a bust league-wide. Although they both have potential, you don't trade on potential...you trade for what's right in front of you. Martin brings league-wide drama and that's going to be a tough sell for any GM to overlook...not to mention his stability issues. Thomas shows flashes of pure brilliance at times, but I still don't think he's good enough to be anything more than a backup. He's just not consistent enough. Trading Vernon, however, is an interesting possibility but that also depends on how much confidence the team has in Jordan. From what I've heard behind the scenes, they're not completely thrilled with him at this point and they expected him to be further along. I would almost say to bite the bullet and trade Jordan instead...and then live to regret it 3-5 years from now. I don't know the answer though; that's a tough decision. I could go along with a case to trade either of them.
lmao if I had a dollar for everytime you came up with some deal packaging those two bums Martin and Daniel Thomas to another team I could buy the damn Dolphins myself. just stop, I doubt we'd even get a 7th rounder for either of them. I told you, we only have 4 realistic trade pieces on this roster, Wake, Jordan, Pouncey, and Odrick. those 4 have the right combination of size, salary, and talent.
You couldn't be more wrong about Vernon's trade value, and the value of the players you mentioned, especially Odrick is questionable. DT's who aren't dynamic playmakers just don't have a lot of trade value. Better than RB's maybe, but that's about it, after kickers and punters. Trading Jordan is cap prohibitive and you shouldn't even mention his name in a trade thread. Cam Wake shows every sign of being a player that can play at a high level into his mid-thirties. He has far more value to the Dolphins especially considering the dearth of good veteran leadership. Cam is no orator but he is living example of everything that coaches try to instill in their players. Pouncey, depending on league action, probably should be traded; but only if he garners value for us. If I had a whatever for every time you posted your disdain for Daniel Thomas, I would have a lot of whatever, yet you continue on and on, and well you should, it is what you believe. You might as well post what feel strongly about. If you think Daniel Thomas should be released and that he would fall out of the league and end up Canada, go ahead and say it. I hated the pick and especially that we traded up to draft him. I don't value the player, but the player obviously has value. He may not be great at any one thing but he does a OK job receiving,blocking and running. He is reasonably intelligent and he doesn't cause trouble. Still shows a little upside. Show me one RB on the Cowboys besides Murray who has shown anywhere near what Thomas has? or has anywhere near the NFL credentials that Thomas has? None, of course, the Cowboys RB depth is total crap just like I said, and besides, in this trade scenario, Thomas was more or less just a throwin.
Own personal. I think part of Jeff Ireland's personality or lack thereof stems from some serious shortcomings and he is probably only working with about 2.5" diamond hard.
Jerry Jones admits DeMarcus Ware could be a cap casualty http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/24/jerry-jones-admits-demarcus-ware-could-be-a-cap-casualty/
