The OFFICIAL Trade Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Trades' started by Paul 13, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I was thinking of next year, if I'm the commissioner again, to have all trades go thru me, you essentially send me a PM, the other team confirms it via PM to me, then I post it officially in the trade thread. That way, nobody can "back out" so to speak. It would also eliminate the problem we had before with the GM not approving the trades until a few days later. The problem with this process, is it gives me a **** load more work to do.
     
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  2. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Would you be ruling on the trade or just posting them?
     
  3. Finfangirl

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    sorry paul....
     
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  4. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's not you. It's happened to everyone I think at this point. It's my 5th year in this league and I've had it happen at least2-3x. Everyone whose experienced it knows it'd annoying. I don't think you're the type to do it just to mess with another team.
     
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  5. Finfangirl

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    would having a trade voted on by majority work? similar to what we do in our fantasy leagues?
     
  6. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I think its fine the way it is. If someone backs out, tha is life. If someone gets ripped off....oh well.

    If Paul needs a better way to keep track of it I understand that.
     
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  7. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    What if you installed a penalty process of some sort for trade violators etc, like a sacrifice of a draft pick? For the integrity of the league, I think it'd also be good to have a committee of 5 experienced, knowledgeable GMs [plus 2 alternates] to review all trades that seem questionable or too lopsided. On those particular trades, they'd each submit their private vote of "accept" or "reject" to you, with majority vote needed to reject it. The 2 alternates would be there to fill in for any of the 5 if they're involved in the questionable trade. Just an idea.
     
  8. Fin-Omenal

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    I like Boiks idea of posting trades as soon as rosters are up, maybe a 2 hour window between posted trades and acceptance..

    I know normally when I or someone else says "post it" generally I accept right away and vice versa. If Todd would've been as quick on the draw as he usually is....this wouldn't be an issue.
     
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  9. Fin-Omenal

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    Rejecting trades is a horrible idea.
     
  10. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    I don't think there is anything really wrong. Maybe have only 24 hours between roster posting to live trades. Then it's up to people to do the smart thing. Post a trade when your both around. If the time frames are really different.......then use Paul as a proxy then?

    Trades get backed out of in real life to. How often have we heard everyone be 99.9% sure about a trade only to see it fizzle at the deadline.
     
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  11. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Hello? He was in Minn-e-sota. :lol: Who WOULD break 1000 receiving yards there with that slop at QB?

    I think you're forgetting Harvin was ON FIRE in 2012 through 9 games before hip injury when he was on pace for 110 catches, 73% catch rate, 1204 yards, 1377 scrimmage yards, 75 first downs, 9 total TDs.... with Christian freakin' Ponder! That's more impressive than Cobb's full 2012 season when he totaled 80 catches for 954 yards, 77% catch rate, 1086 scrimmage yards, 52 first downs, and 9 total TDs, w/ Rodgers no less.

    In 2011, Harvin was 4th in scoring [9 TDs] and 5th in scrimmage yards [1312] among all receivers and ahead of White, Marshall, Nelson, Wallace, Bowe, Green, Vincent Jackson, and Julio to name a few.


    Production is production, and in that crappy Minnesota offense, many of those yards were Percy Harvin manufactured. I couldn't imagine the damage he'd do in Green Bay with a great QB and all that extra field to work with as a result of the QB play and the spacing of the offense paired with Eddie Lacy. You see the kind of space Cobb has had to work with. Harvin would turn defenses into swiss cheese with that type of room.

    And let's not forget Percy's impact in the field position game where he took 2 of his 4 kick returns this year for an 87 yard TD in the SB and a 57 yard return on his very first Seattle KO. In 2012 he averaged a disgusting 36 yards per return, 10 yards better than Cobb. Could you imagine Percy in GB giving Rodgers & Lacy all those extra short field opportunities, especially when winter rolls around and few kickoffs are reaching the back of Green Bay's endzone?

    Let's not forget the SB Champ Seahawks prioritized him enough to send Minnesota a 1st rounder rather than going after Wallace in FA without costing a pick and rather than using that 1st rounder on Cordarrelle Patterson at a fraction of the cost. So, in my eyes, Cobb + a late 2nd is plenty fair for Harvin + a 4th or 5th for anyone coveting the best X factor in the game. Hell, I entered the trade talks wanting nothing short of it involving a swap of my 2nd for a 1st.... so my initial offer when asked about Percy was: Harvin, 2.64, 4.128, 6.192 for Cobb, 1.21. That's a more fair trade than some of the stuff I've been offered for him.
     
  12. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I'm not downing Harvin so much as saying he is terribly injury prone and hasn't put a full season together. That impacts his value.
     
  13. Fin-Omenal

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    In the time it took you to write this......Harvin was injured twice. :shifty:
     
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  14. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    :lol: Win.
     
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  15. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    What about a trade committee?
     
  16. RickyBobby

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    I nominate myself.
     
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  17. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    If anyone wants to trade another good WR ill just run an offense that comes out 4 WR and one halfback every play. :lol:
     
  18. Finfangirl

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    Buckeye King - clean out your box
     
  19. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    LMAO where to begin... :lol:
     
  20. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I've updated the rules thread... let me know if any questions.
     
  21. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Just confirming the players/picks involved, like I do after the fact now.
     
  22. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    no problem... it's only todd. :lol:
     
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  23. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    When does thr salary cap come out? :lol:
     
  24. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    not a big fan of the committee approach. It just opens it up to more subjectivity. Part of being a good gm is knowing that you got the best deal. If I were a GM, I know I'd hate some committee ruling on the fairness of my thievery. We fortunately have never had a trade so one sided that everyone just laughed at. Although there have been times when most of us chuckled :lol: It's part of the game. But a trade so obviously one sided to question the authenticity of the league... has not happened... that I recall :shifty:
     
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  25. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Mach, schisno, and myself.

    Just to piss FinO off. :lol:
     
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  26. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No that would just make more work for Crunchtime :lol:
     
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  27. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I'm 90% sure it's $127m...
     
  28. Fin-Omenal

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    Just gonna diss your buttercream gang buddies for these new guys ehh??
     
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  29. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Cool, that sounds about right I think.
     
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  30. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Keep it up, pal... you'll be exiting via mental breakdown for the second straight season. :shifty:
     
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  31. Fin-Omenal

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    Buttercream

    Buttercream

    Buttercream
     
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  32. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Fin-Othan Martin?

    Too soon?
     
  33. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    you cant win feud of the year when youre not in the league :)
     
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  34. ToddPhin

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    You -> lobotomy. now. Do not stop on go. Proceed directly to the operating table.
    Cobb isn't worth Harvin in a straight up trade, let alone giving up friggin' draft value to do so.

    Harvin epitomizes the movable chess piece of which all others are compared, and that includes Cobb. He IS the X-factor mold.

    Even with missing half of 2012 and playing in Minnesota with goddam Christian Ponder, Percy still totaled more offensive yards and 1st downs from 2010-12 than Dez Bryant... more TDs than Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitz, Vincent Jackson, and Andre Johnson.... a higher yards per attempt [7.9] than Brandon Marshall... and a higher catch percentage [69%] than Brandon Marshall. A lot of people mistakingly think he's only a playmaking threat and little else, but he's also incredibly efficient.
     
  35. Fin-Omenal

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    Impressive.

    So why are you trading him??
     
  36. Finfangirl

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    Boom goes the dynamite
     
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  37. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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  38. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ffg, did Aaron do the discount double check as he was boarding the plane to st louis?
     
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  39. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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  40. Finfangirl

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    thats disgusting, paul...lol
     
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